Matt Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Feeling surprisingly sick and still feeling sick about it this morning, especially reading MON or Hughes are leading candidates. Like i said in the other thread, no excitement until replacement is announced and transfer window is shut with Baines still playing for us... I echo the appreciation for Moyes, and wish him all the best. He deserves a shot at the big time. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Excited and now a bit nervous after reading that about MON and Hughes. It's the start of a new era, Moyes has built the last one and done very well with it and it's got him the biggest job in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 and still feeling sick about it this morning, especially reading MON or Hughes are leading candidates. Like i said in the other thread, no excitement until replacement is announced and transfer window is shut with Baines still playing for us... I echo the appreciation for Moyes, and wish him all the best. He deserves a shot at the big time. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I read a headline today from Hughes today saying Everton are a big club... I seem to remember him saying otherwise when he was chasing Lescott. He's saying it to try and put himself in the frame to be our manager. If either O'Neill or Hughes become our next manager it'll show even more so that this club is not in good hands with our board.. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'd be happy with Laudrup as our new boss. I know he's just signed a contract but the press are throwing his name about http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/next-everton-manager-michael-laudrup-1877229">http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/next-everton-manager-michael-laudrup-1877229 Did we have to pay Preston compensation when we signed Moyes? I was only 7 so I can't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzp7zy Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Feck all's changed in the last 6 years, I welcome a new manager. Just hoping we get one with a different/winning mentality and gives kids a chance. I'm fed up with this nonsense that kids don't get a chance at Everton. Its bollocks. Our U21's and academy is full of players who chose Everton because we're renowned for developing good young players. Even if ultimately they don't make it into the 1st team they have a better than average chance of going on to have decent career at another club in the lower leagues. Some people should accept that just because they're told Barkley is a world beater that doesn't mean they know better than people who watch the players in training every day. Same for Duffy, Vellios, Junior etc. Maybe somebody who knows more about footy than you doesn't think these players are ready?!? Look at how well Villa have done with a young team - no thanks! The only upside to Moyes leaving is it's a great opportunity for a new manager to make the most of the players at the club, bring in a couple of quality players, fresh ideas and fresh impetus. Here's hoping. J.P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I agree with SharpysVolley, most newspapers are actually listing Moyes youth tactics as a strong point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'd be happy with Laudrup as our new boss. I know he's just signed a contract but the press are throwing his name about http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/next-everton-manager-michael-laudrup-1877229">http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/next-everton-manager-michael-laudrup-1877229 Did we have to pay Preston compensation when we signed Moyes? I was only 7 so I can't remember. I read on the BBC that his new contract only has 14 months left to run which has made me slightly more hopeful we could get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I read on the BBC that his new contract only has 14 months left to run which has made me slightly more hopeful we could get him According to Wiki the contract runs to the end of the 2014/15 season but "reports indicate" there's a release clause of about £5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Dont get my hopes up now. My first choice would be Laudrup. Martinez close second though. Just want to avoid Hughes, MON and the likes of Redknapp. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 According to Wiki the contract runs to the end of the 2014/15 season but "reports indicate" there's a release clause of about £5m. Answering myself but his wages over two years are likely to be less than £5m aren't they (£48,000 a week) so the compensation might be less than the release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 So 60k over 5 years including compensation would be cheaper than another 5 years with Moyes? Would Laudrup come for 60k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 So 60k over 5 years including compensation would be cheaper than another 5 years with Moyes? Would Laudrup come for 60k? I'd have thought he's probably on half that at Swansea so he'd come for less....and I wouldn't give him that much anyway. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I think he is on more than 30k, probably somewhere around 40-42. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Please don't get my hopes up with Laudrup. I'd shat my pants if we got him. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I was excited but after seeing Bills latest interview I'm getting slightly worried the board have been massively complacent and just expected Moyes to sign a new deal with no back up plan in place -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Still hasn't quite registered yet, todays news, but this has to be exciting for some. New face after 11 years, now with a tangible chance of actually fucking winning something. Moyes became stale seasons back, and this does represent an opportunity to finally do something, in that, finally picking up that elusive trophy after so many years away. Yes I'm eager to see who we can bring in this summer and a new name in charge of affairs and finally with a realisitic chance of actually winning something. Not so much excitement, as anticipation. Moyes was never going to last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ph3nom3non Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I think were forgetting Moyes was basically behind everything we have done, the quality of the players he has brought in for the money has been incredible. I'm thinking long term here but can an another manager come in and do that? I just don't want to slip down the table and turn into mediocre side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I wouldn't mind Di Matteo. Small outside chance of that happening, but he has a Champion's Cup. My first choice is still Martinez, and I can't help but admire the attacking style of Swansea sometimes, so I'd welcome Laudrop in a heartbeat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I think were forgetting Moyes was basically behind everything we have done, the quality of the players he has brought in for the money has been incredible. I'm thinking long term here but can an another manager come in and do that? I just don't want to slip down the table and turn into mediocre side. I think Martinez is even better in regards to transfers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Trepidation I think is the word I would use, but Moyes has gone now so we move on Whoever the next manager is at least he will inherit a good squad and have a solid foundation to build his team from and ironically could have more money to spend this summer than Moyes has had in 11 years It will be a very interesting summer! Romey 1878, Bailey, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Martinez also created miracles at Wigan by being the exact opposite of Moyes - maybe that is what Everton needs now to get rid of their lack in self belief , to rise to the occasion instead of just settling for the draw or defending a 1 goal lead - just see how many beautiful goals Wigan scored this season compared to Everton but their defence let them down - Martinez or Laudrop or DiMatteo will do thanks Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) I think were forgetting Moyes was basically behind everything we have done, the quality of the players he has brought in for the money has been incredible. I'm thinking long term here but can an another manager come in and do that? I just don't want to slip down the table and turn into mediocre side. Well it's happened to the likes of Newcastle and Villa, so let's be honest it can happen to us.Moyes perhaps didn't thrill everyone with his tactics, but what he did do was cement Everton in the top 6/7 of the premier league with limited funds.The next man may have to do a similar job, no will have to. Moyes has helped make Everton an attractive club, that will attract some decent candidates, hopefully Martinez will be one of those. Edited May 9, 2013 by Blue 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ph3nom3non Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I think Martinez is even better in regards to transfers. But his team are on the brink of relegation. If he was so good he would have brought them to safety by now .. Were forgetting his team might be going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 But his team are on the brink of relegation. If he was so good he would have brought them to safety by now .. Were forgetting his team might be going down. dont think people are forgetting, it's just this topic has been covered over and over again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanOvvy Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 dont think people are forgetting, it's just this topic has been covered over and over again! I don't think you can cover that topi enough, look Martinez is a nice guy, decent manager, but we should be aiming higher than a guy who can only marginally survive every season, for me Alan Stubbs is the perfect choice given time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I don't think you can cover that topi enough, look Martinez is a nice guy, decent manager, but we should be aiming higher than a guy who can only marginally survive every season, for me Alan Stubbs is the perfect choice given time. I think you have to look past the results and league placings with some managers depending on their circumstances. Do I think Mancini or Di Matteo because they won the Premier League and Champions League respectively? No I dont, they are average managers in my opinion who have been fortunate to end up at a top club. Martinez moulded Swansea into the team they are now and ironically he has actually for a solid starting 11 if he could actually get them all on the pitch at the same time. I also find it slightly laughable that you dont rate Martinez yet you are promoting someone who has never managed a football club in his life. True blue maybe but I very much doubt that Stubbsy, who it would be fair to say isnt the sharpest tool in the box, would ever be a good enough manager to take on such a challenge. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanOvvy Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I think you have to look past the results and league placings with some managers depending on their circumstances. Do I think Mancini or Di Matteo because they won the Premier League and Champions League respectively? No I dont, they are average managers in my opinion who have been fortunate to end up at a top club. Martinez moulded Swansea into the team they are now and ironically he has actually for a solid starting 11 if he could actually get them all on the pitch at the same time. I also find it slightly laughable that you dont rate Martinez yet you are promoting someone who has never managed a football club in his life. True blue maybe but I very much doubt that Stubbsy, who it would be fair to say isnt the sharpest tool in the box, would ever be a good enough manager to take on such a challenge. Stubbs not the sharpest tool in the box? The man is a club legend, he knows the ins and outs. And we could argue all day who moulded Swansea into the team they are today, in my honest opinion it wasn't Martinez. And like Phenomenon said he's had more than enough chances to even break into the mid table, but he continues to be fighting relegation every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 In what universe is Stubbs a club legend? Ball, Dean, Latchford... They were legends. Stubbs was a good player for us. Nothing more. Nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I don't think you can cover that topi enough, look Martinez is a nice guy, decent manager, but we should be aiming higher than a guy who can only marginally survive every season, for me Alan Stubbs is the perfect choice given time. Comon Stubbsy i love you but you aint getting the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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