Shukes Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 To be fair to Koeman he could have put stems back in against city. But he has obviously saw something in Robles and looks like giving him a chance. I would rather have Robles than Steks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Pretty simple Matt, when not facing shots your unlikely to concede goals. If he faces shots where he needs to make better than average saves....and he makes them, then I might change my opinion of him. You think he has been making great saves while I think he has faced shots that a premier keeper should save. I don't want an average premier keeper, I want a top end keeper to take us another step. Take the city match. He has received a lot of credit for his performance and rightly so, even from me. But did city have any efforts that you wouldn't have expected 70% of premiership keepers to save? That's the way I look at him. A decent enough stop gap, but a stop gap all the same! I'd agree with most of that. He had the one from Silva that he did better than other might but the rest were simple enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 From what I have seen he deserves the chance to finish the season as no 1 and try to hold onto it for next season. I think his positioning is very good, as is his shot stopping, communication. I do have concerns about his ability to deal with crosses. I hope he can improve this over the course of the season as I think there is a top quality keeper in there, and its nice to have him develop with us and make the position his own. His ability to handle crosses far exceeds Tim Howard's, and the latter was our #1 for years. I'm glad more people are coming around to the idea that Joel deserves to be our #1. He's been good and consistent. I just hope he doesn't drop a clanger in the coming weeks to lose that new support. Every keeper has such a moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 So you think against any average prem keeper they would have scored? I honestly thought our defence was good and that we didn't give them a clear shot on goal other than the ones Sterling hit high and wide....which to be fair ... didn't need saving. Watch the highlights again, you'll see the best chance was the free kick which was a basic standard save. I think he had a good game too, but my point stands....if you don't come necessarily shots you shouldn't concede goals, and any goalkeeper regardless of his level would get the same result. Aguero would have, yes. Joel rushed out quickly and spared his defence some blushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Silva. Yes he did well there, but that was more his command of his box than a save.....or am I thinking if a different one haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 with Madrid in a panic after Navas had one bad game (after a 40 game win streak) and De Gea rumors re-surfacing I would love to go all in for Navas. Class keeper and only 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Silva. Yes he did well there, but that was more his command of his box than a save.....or am I thinking if a different one haha Sorry. Got their players muddled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 didnt put a foot wrong last season and should have have started this season has no1 and now showing hes good enough could save us a lot of money on a new keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 He's had a handful of good games, still makes mistakes and isn't the keeper to take us forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I still don't think he'll ever be a top quality keeper, but I've noticed definite improvements in his game this season. He's actually claiming crosses now, rather than constantly punching everything! I really want to see him given a run until the end of the season to see how he develops, instead of bringing in someone else over January. We can always re-access at the end of the season and if we end up buying a new keeper for me needs to go out on loan so he can keep learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I still don't think he'll ever be a top quality keeper, but I've noticed definite improvements in his game this season. He's actually claiming crosses now, rather than constantly punching everything! I really want to see him given a run until the end of the season to see how he develops, instead of bringing in someone else over January. We can always re-access at the end of the season and if we end up buying a new keeper for me needs to go out on loan so he can keep learning. He's too mature a player to go out on loan. Either he's #1 for us or he's #1 elsewhere. Which ever it is, I feel certain he'll be viewed as world-class within a couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 He's too mature a player to go out on loan. Either he's #1 for us or he's #1 elsewhere. Which ever it is, I feel certain he'll be viewed as world-class within a couple of seasons. Just feel as if he's underrated and we'd eventually get more money from any deal if we let him show off his wears on loan first (if we bring in a proper no. 1 for him that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 He's too mature a player to go out on loan. Either he's #1 for us or he's #1 elsewhere. Which ever it is, I feel certain he'll be viewed as world-class within a couple of seasons. Even I won't go that far mate, he'll never be at the Neuer / De Gea standard. But if he gets to the level I think he will, I can see him playing for a CL club, most likely abroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Absoltely no chance ever of him becoming world class. Credit to the lad though he's stepped up and done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Yeah, I don't know about world class, but I can see him at the level right below that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 He's had a handful of good games, still makes mistakes and isn't the keeper to take us forward. You have obviously never played in goal. I bet Utd were glad they didn't take that approach with De Gea. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I'd loan him out next season, see how he handles a full season in the PL as a number 1 choice keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Even I won't go that far mate, he'll never be at the Neuer / De Gea standard. But if he gets to the level I think he will, I can see him playing for a CL club, most likely abroad Time will tell, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Time will tell, right?yep, but even I am not that optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 yep, but even I am not that optimistic Here's why I think so. 1. He has the build of a good goalie: big reach, big hands, strength. 2. He has the reflexes of a good goalie. We've witnessed that a few times during his tenure with us. 3. Increasingly, he reads the game well and is not afraid to commit. (Usually this pays off, but even the best goalies look bad when it doesn't.) 4. Increasingly, he's assertive and commands his box and defence. Have you seen how much more vocal and animated he's become recently? 5. Increasingly, he has the passion that brings that additional edge to his play. Yes, time will tell, and I'm usually wrong , but I really do think he could become a great keeper. It's not often you see all these things in a single player. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Well, for what it's worth, apparently Tim Howard thinks he'd still be our #1 if he was here, despite losing his spot to Robles last season: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/national/2017/01/17/tim-howard-speaks-out-against-jurgen-klinsmann/96689094/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Well, for what it's worth, apparently Tim Howard thinks he'd still be our #1 if he was here, despite losing his spot to Robles last season: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/national/2017/01/17/tim-howard-speaks-out-against-jurgen-klinsmann/96689094/ tim is what brought me to everton. seeing him play for the US and then following everton because of it. but I have lost so much respect for the guy since then. he was being all pompous when his form dropped here and when he left and now this? dude come on, we sold you for a reason. ego, just wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 tim is what brought me to everton. seeing him play for the US and then following everton because of it. but I have lost so much respect for the guy since then. he was being all pompous when his form dropped here and when he left and now this? dude come on, we sold you for a reason. ego, just wow. Yeah I was a big fan, too. I met him at an Apple Store in New York about a year and a half ago and he was a super nice dude. I think he was a really good servant for Everton, and for several of the years he was our keeper, I'd even argue he was top 3-5 in the league. But I think he's having a pretty hard time dealing with his declining form as he looks continuously more past it. That whole article, even if some of it was taken out of context, strikes me as the arrogance of a dude who came up before the American consciousness of good football is what it is now and sees himself as a sort of gatekeeper. That said, Joel was way better than him last year. Elston Gunnn, nutmegwolf203, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romey 1878 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Well, for what it's worth, apparently Tim Howard thinks he'd still be our #1 if he was here, despite losing his spot to Robles last season: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/national/2017/01/17/tim-howard-speaks-out-against-jurgen-klinsmann/96689094/ It's sad when people hit the drugs after a break-up of a marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-joel-robles-reveals-fumed-12479232 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westlo Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Would've been fuming too..... he wasn't even getting the cup games was he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Love his attitude. Loved him running the pitch after Lookmans goal. His ability is questionable, but I'd be more than happy as a fan to see him play the rest of the season. If he keeps getting clean sheets and performing like he has been, I would want him to take the number 1 spot. Edited January 21, 2017 by AidanLewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Another good performance from him. Long may it continue. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Excellent today. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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