Lowensda Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Get him signed fast. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'm gonna be gutted when he pisses off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 We should have sold Baines to man u and invested in this lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 That £15m for baines would be nice if spent on a left winger. Garbutt is the real deal, what a passer of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Baines is still a quality player, anyone wanting rid is having a knee-jerk reaction. Luke has played a handful of games and looked great, no doubt. So many players have done that. However he has a lot to learn, like any young player. That said, in my opinion he looks the real deal. So pay him and promise him the game time. He's worth an investment, but again it all depends on long term strategy. Triple his money, which can't be much and get him playing. 5yr deal, 25k a week would surpass anything we've offered a promising, unproven, young player at 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 The time wasn't right to sell Baines butin all honesty he's been very average this season. Garbutt looks more than capable and Oviedo too. Something's got to give and I hope it's not Garbutt leaving. He'll end up a top top player. This needs doing ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I rate Oviedo, but that goal against Utd, and probably his injury too, sold so many blue tinted Oviedo glasses it's insane. Again, another quality player, but he's still not at Baines' level. That is largely down to the fact he's not been given the chance to prove himself, it's only ever been little run outs I've a soft spot for him too, but can't help feel sentiment overwhelmes judgement here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 That's the most I've seen of the lad so far, it was pretty good, for someone with limited game time his composure was excellent.What the hell could he be like with a season behind him. But Baines!.....take a brave man to sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I want to keep all three! I sure wish Oviedo could play right back too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Gonna be a goodun. Looks to have a good engine and hunts the ball down up the top too. And of course, his crosses stand out. But we still need Baines. He might not be as fluent this season, but 10 others haven't been either. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/left-back-dilemma-martinez-must-solve-8731946 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Give Garbutt a go at Left Mid - his crossing is the best at the club. Antonio Montana, Lowensda and Chach 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Give Garbutt a go at Left Mid - his crossing is the best at the club. This. We have noone on the left side at present, push him forward and use his deadly crosses as an attacking threat. We know he CAN defend, so he'll be happy to do the defensive work. Worked for Coleman, I think it'll be good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Can you imagine a team who's fullback could 'switch' positions from LB to LM with a team mate and both still be effective in their new positions? It would be a tactical nightmare for the oppositions manager. So you could have; Oviedo at LM to start a game. Garbutt at LB to start a game. then at half time, swap them OR even halfway through halves. It would be awesome. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Lennon provides so much cover for Coleman - double bonus. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Can you imagine a team who's fullback could 'switch' positions from LB to LM with a team mate and both still be effective in their new positions? It would be a tactical nightmare for the oppositions manager. So you could have; Oviedo at LM to start a game. Garbutt at LB to start a game. then at half time, swap them OR even halfway through halves. It would be awesome. I proposed something similar for 3/4 players in attack, constantly shifting around. Means no man marking is possible and would always make the opposition defence hesitant going forward too. Its the next evolution in football, to be truly fluid people will have to be master of 2-3 trades. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I proposed something similar for 3/4 players in attack, constantly shifting around. Means no man marking is possible and would always make the opposition defence hesitant going forward too. Its the next evolution in football, to be truly fluid people will have to be master of 2-3 trades. Milner does it very well (not through choice) but always ends up more effective because noone knows who's marking him. It's potentially an incredible system. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm gonna be gutted when he pisses off. And I can see it coming all the way down Walton Lane as far as Everton Valley. Absolute travesty when he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 http://toffeeweb.com/season/14-15/news/29435.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 That means he'll sign for Liverpool in June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 If he wants more money, it's in our hands, if he wants more money and a move away it's totaly out of our control. He's been below my radar if I'm honest, don't know his age or how long left he has on his contract, but watching him against Young Boys I was thinking he will only improve with age and games, he can't have played much and already other than free kicks he doesn't seem that far behind Baines. Tough one for Martinez, he knows more about them than we do, just do what's best for Everton long term.He (Martinez) after a lifetime in the game should have enough insight into just how good Garbutt could be, and likewise how long Baines may have left.Also if he really is the manager he thinks he is, just talking to the respective players would tell him where their hearts are. Sadly when all said and done it may well come down to money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 This is a player I really don't want to lose. I'm a big fan of Baines and Oviedo, but Baines has already begun the downslope of his career and I don't think Oviedo has quite the potential upside of Garbutt. It would be stupidly short-sighted of us to let him go. Romey 1878, Matt and Toffee_in_LA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I really hope we tie him down. Good left-backs are hard to find, and it looks like we have a star in the making in Garbutt. Toffee_in_LA and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) It's imperative we keep him and has showed his potential in the European games. As much as I love Baines I feel he is slightly on the wain and is not the attacking threat he was... plus he is into his 30's. Whilst Garbutt has a way to go to reach the attacking threat of Baines in his pomp, he is in my opinion already a better defender and so highly rated at Finch Farm they believe he could play centre half too. Edited February 28, 2015 by Sherpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I thought he was pretty good today. I wonder how close he is to signing an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Whilst Garbutt has a way to go to reach the attacking threat of Baines in his pomp, he is in my opinion already a better defender and so highly rated at Finch Farm they believe he could play centre half too. Don't tell Martinez...... He'll have him playing number 10 at Stoke with Mirallas right back and Coleman in goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Deserves his place. Looks an accomplished league player. Offers more than Baines does, for me anyway. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Got to keep him, he's a top player in the making. Let Oviedo go and keep hold of Garbutt. Or keep Oviedo and get Garbutt a loan to a team that comes up next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I'd sooner lose Oviedo than Garbutt personally. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I wish terribly Oviedo was a right back, nearly every night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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