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with the team currently reliant on the on-loan duo of Romelu Lukaku and Lacina Traore for goals...

 

So, based in that snippet, I call bullshit.

 

Besides, I hear he needs to improve his movement....

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14 hours ago, Palfy said:

It’s looking like Ancelotti wants this guy apparently we have made a definite move for him, and put a package together which could give him up to 134k a week. 

Any source for this Palfy?

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Just now, StevO said:

Any source for this Palfy?

It came from one football yesterday, they are usually somewhere handy when talking about transfers, by that they don’t always happen but there will be negotiating going on. 

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

It came from one football yesterday, they are usually somewhere handy when talking about transfers, by that they don’t always happen but there will be negotiating going on. 

I mean can you put the link in here so we can read it?

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20 hours ago, RuffRob said:

think best leave him where he is - apparently couldn't hack the faster pace in Germany and then did even worst in Spain - as good as he is in Italy it doesn't sounds like he travels well. As a current challenger for this seasons European golden boot we would have to be paying significant transfer fee and big wages for him this summer - if he did flop on his travels again, next summer we would be stuck with a 31 year old on massive wages. Even though we have been offloading some, we still have too many dead weight players on massive wages that nobody is going to buy from us. Do we really want to risk adding another. 

The problem with a lot of the signings we have been making since Moshiri has arrived is that we want to run before we can actually walk. Do we really have the basics of a team to make best use of a prolific goal scorer in the later part of his career? Our current strikers have lived on scrapes and in some games see very little of the ball. How would Immobile perform in our current team . We need to have a team capable of consistently creating to before we spend a load of money and wages on a player looking for his last big contract!!! money would have be the only motivation for him to come to us, the 12th placed team in the Premier league. 

 

You need to post more!

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Yeah I don't agree with buying anybody on or over 30, was just replying to people saying he was so useless. Think he's a bit better than useless 38 goals in 42 games.

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Been saying the same for months. If DCL was missing sitters week in week out I could understand, but chances are so thin on the ground that if he misses a half chance.... people use it as a stick to beat him with. 
 

Let’s see how these two fair when we’re creating a few chances each game.

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1 hour ago, Shukes said:

Been saying the same for months. If DCL was missing sitters week in week out I could understand, but chances are so thin on the ground that if he misses a half chance.... people use it as a stick to beat him with. 
 

Let’s see how these two fair when we’re creating a few chances each game.

You weren’t saying that in April May and June 😂

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2 hours ago, Bailey said:

He has missed some sitters though. Should have bagged at least a couple post restart.

I agree with that the shut down has hurt him more than most, he hasn’t come back as the player before the shutdown, he’s come back more like the player of last season, who struggled to find the net. 

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2 hours ago, RuffRob said:

A lot of our player have struggled since the restart. European football was only an outside chance and I think most player have come back with a 'Whats the point' kind of attitude. As an Everton fan, if I am honest, I already had this season as 'done with' in my head and wasn't overly bothered if it actually started again or was wrote off. I have more of an eye on next season - how did others feel? Overly bothered about a restart.?

Now as pros being paid to play, this should not happen and players should be giving their all week in week out, but human nature doesn't work that way. 

I've felt the same way. As much as I love Everton and football in general, I wasn't really eager to see it in its current state. It always made sense to me to just scrap it all together; that would've allowed for even better planning and safer protocol for 20/21...although I suppose rushing and making a bunch of mistakes in quick succession is a means of learning too.

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8 hours ago, RuffRob said:

A lot of our player have struggled since the restart. European football was only an outside chance and I think most player have come back with a 'Whats the point' kind of attitude. As an Everton fan, if I am honest, I already had this season as 'done with' in my head and wasn't overly bothered if it actually started again or was wrote off. I have more of an eye on next season - how did others feel? Overly bothered about a restart.?

Now as pros being paid to play, this should not happen and players should be giving their all week in week out, but human nature doesn't work that way. 

Don’t be coming back here with logic and reason, Rob. We don’t do that crap around here anymore. 
😂

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14 hours ago, Palfy said:

You weren’t saying that in April May and June 😂

Think even you would agree with me, I’ve always rated him  and had his back.... though I will still criticise when due..... like that complete air shot volley the other week haha.

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12 hours ago, Bailey said:

He has missed some sitters though. Should have bagged at least a couple post restart.

Don't disagree at all mate. Still trying to understand the volley haha.

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8 hours ago, RuffRob said:

A lot of our player have struggled since the restart. European football was only an outside chance and I think most player have come back with a 'Whats the point' kind of attitude. As an Everton fan, if I am honest, I already had this season as 'done with' in my head and wasn't overly bothered if it actually started again or was wrote off. I have more of an eye on next season - how did others feel? Overly bothered about a restart.?

Now as pros being paid to play, this should not happen and players should be giving their all week in week out, but human nature doesn't work that way. 

Who invited this guy to our forum.... way to sensible for us!

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30 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Who invited this guy to our forum.... way to sensible for us!

😂

We are currently living in very strange times, fucking with lots of people's heads. Football players will be no different. Its going to continue, it will be a stranger transfer market and a 20/21 season. I personally don't see stadiums being filled with crowds of people for at least 12months. This thing isn't going to go away quietly. For any transfers this summer, a bit of extra patience is going to be needed. Would you fancy uping sticks (with your family) and going to live in a hotel in a foreign country at the moment? away from all your friends and extended family. I have to work away on Monday night and  need to stay in a hotel, the paperwork and company risk assessments I have had to do is quite unbelievable.

Think we will also need to be a bit careful harshly judging over the 20/21 as well. Timing sucks, as first time we have a managers of Ancelloties calibre at the club. Like everybody else, 3month after his arrival he is kind of having to working with one arm be his back. So not the best for him to come to do a rebuild of the club. His first 18months at the club will be under very difficult circumstances. 

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6 hours ago, Shukes said:

Think even you would agree with me, I’ve always rated him  and had his back.... though I will still criticise when due..... like that complete air shot volley the other week haha.

I do agree that you’ve always fought his corner, where as I have always praised his effort but doubted his ability, then this season before lockdown he started to score on regular basis, which proved he also had the ability and me wrong. 
Unfortunately the season closed and he has come back off the boil, but the effort is there and he has proven when in the zone he can be a goal machine, so I’m expecting him to come back strong next season, definitely not writing him off a long way to go yet. 

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15 hours ago, RuffRob said:

A lot of our player have struggled since the restart. European football was only an outside chance and I think most player have come back with a 'Whats the point' kind of attitude. As an Everton fan, if I am honest, I already had this season as 'done with' in my head and wasn't overly bothered if it actually started again or was wrote off. I have more of an eye on next season - how did others feel? Overly bothered about a restart.?

Now as pros being paid to play, this should not happen and players should be giving their all week in week out, but human nature doesn't work that way. 

I think more have struggled than not but at the same time we had some crunch games and the players were talking up European football and the let themselves down. 

I definitely get human nature but if that is the attitude of the players we aren't going anywhere on the pitch because when the chips are down they are going to turn it in instead of step up to the plate. 

Personally I think everyone gets carried away with DCL. He had a purple patch and his best games came under Ferguson. Shane Long scored 20 goals in a season and he will never do it again. I am not saying that DCL is the next Shane Long but the same problems he had prior to his purple patch where still there when he was scoring and they are still there now. If anything he just showed what a bit of confidence and belief can do to a player. 

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2 hours ago, Palfy said:

I do agree that you’ve always fought his corner, where as I have always praised his effort but doubted his ability, then this season before lockdown he started to score on regular basis, which proved he also had the ability and me wrong. 
Unfortunately the season closed and he has come back off the boil, but the effort is there and he has proven when in the zone he can be a goal machine, so I’m expecting him to come back strong next season, definitely not writing him off a long way to go yet. 

I think your right, the effort and overall ability is good. But his finishing does need work. Is it a confidence issue, a training issue, or just simply an ability issue I don’t know.

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Bad times when 30 is the new 35.

players should be in their prime at 30. But now fans don’t want them because we can’t make any resale on them. 
 

Personal opinion is if they improve the team and bro g is success, that’s infinitely more important than selling them on.

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4 hours ago, Shukes said:

Bad times when 30 is the new 35.

players should be in their prime at 30. But now fans don’t want them because we can’t make any resale on them. 
 

Personal opinion is if they improve the team and bro g is success, that’s infinitely more important than selling them on.

Selling club mentality isn’t it? We buy a player so we need to make a profit when we sell them. 
 

We need the best players we can get in the team right now. If Carlo thinks he makes us better, that’s all I need to know. 

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3 hours ago, StevO said:

Selling club mentality isn’t it? We buy a player so we need to make a profit when we sell them. 
 

We need the best players we can get in the team right now. If Carlo thinks he makes us better, that’s all I need to know. 

Exactly. We need to get out of this mentality. 
 

Being in players that will improve us now. Being more successful now gives young prospects something to think about. Make us an attractive club to come to.

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Don't be stupid. Our revenue is half or less of the next biggest clubs. We can never compete with them if that's the way we conduct our business. Best we could hope for is 7th. No, we need to be clever and stop wasting money.

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No we need to start looking forward and plan to keep players. Southampton have tried for years to be a selling club, Norwich another. Follow these blueprints and you will follow there paths to.

There is a reason you don’t see Man City buying players for sell on value. They make more revenue being a successful club.

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We need players to transition us from shite and spineless to decent and with know how.....

I'm not saying this guy is the answer but signings of this ilk may be required. 

SAF bought RVP, at 29/30 for excessive money.  He knew what he would get and swallowed the price. 

We are in a shite state. We need quality and character.  We aren't in a position to go with potential.... maybe he is a mentor for Moise 

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46 minutes ago, Makis said:

How long would you plan on keeping a 30-year old player who has flopped every time he left Italy?

And comparing us to City is absolutely ridiculous.

I would keep him as long as it works. Simple really.

And comparing is trying to move forward with a team at the top? Maybe you have no ambition, but I do. I never aim to be average at anything and I am 100% sure Carlo didn’t come here to be average either. His target is to win things here. 
 

Your being foolish to think otherwise mate. Or your on the pop and feeling a bit negative tonight haha 😉

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46 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

We need players to transition us from shite and spineless to decent and with know how.....

I'm not saying this guy is the answer but signings of this ilk may be required. 

SAF bought RVP, at 29/30 for excessive money.  He knew what he would get and swallowed the price. 

We are in a shite state. We need quality and character.  We aren't in a position to go with potential.... maybe he is a mentor for Moise 

Exactly, you should never aim to finish a place above when your mid table.... you should aim to break the top four. 

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22 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

I don’t think the issue is so much his age, but that he’s shown he’s not very good outside of Italy and that’s a lot of money for someone that has a good chance of failing here too. 

I can agree with this. Not saying he is good enough for us, just that we need to be looking at changing this but to sell mentality. 
 

Was going to edit the “but to sell” to buy to sell, but I thought it was pretty catchy haha. Sounds like we’re trying to sell Delph!

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