djsunyc Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 saturday august 30 at 530pm everton 0-2-0, 2 points chelsea 2-0-0, 6 points 50 mins of solid play vs. leicester 70 mins of solid play vs. arsenal (still ticked off at giving away 2 points here ) maybe we can get it to 90 mins this week...eto'o thinks so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 one thing alarmed me was when robby said we ran out of steam we did, but arsenal did not. not sure about etoo but I was not sure about barry and he turned out very well. still think we need a centre back (Curtis Davies) had a great game for hull on sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 This should be a good game. I watched the Burnley game and Chelsea looked really sharp in periods but then look a little shoddy in others, especially defensively which is unusual for them. From what I heard of the Leicester match, they didnt fire on all cylinders either but importantly for them, they are winning. We have also been excellent in parts but unlike Chelsea we havent finished the job. They should be a real threat to us on the counter but we negated that pretty well at their place last season. Hopefully Lukaku is fit, because he will want to get one over on Mourinho and with Kev on the right and maybe Naismith drifting in from the left (or vica versa) with Besic, McCarthy and Barry centrally I think we could cause them a few problems of our own. To have any chance though we need to keep our concentration for 90mins and at the moment I dont see that being the case. Might as well go for another 2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I can see this being a very open end to end game with a few goals. Purely for the fact we have goals in us but cannot defend for s**t at the moment. I'm really hoping Rom is fit and can notch a goal or 2 just to ram it down old Jose's throat. I'm expecting pretty much the same line up bar Pienaar. My starting 11 would be: Howard Subs:Robles Coleman Stones Jags Baines Besic Barry McCarthy Distin Mirallas Naismith McGeady Eto Rom Atsu Gibson Hibbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I can see this being a very open end to end game with a few goals. Purely for the fact we have goals in us but cannot defend for s**t at the moment. I'm really hoping Rom is fit and can notch a goal or 2 just to ram it down old Jose's throat. I'm expecting pretty much the same line up bar Pienaar. My starting 11 would be: Howard Subs:Robles Coleman Stones Jags Baines Besic Barry McCarthy Distin Mirallas Naismith McGeady Eto Rom Atsu Gibson Hibbert That's some formation that matey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Please god, just no Osman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Cant find the post now but I would be tempted by 433 to restrict their attack Howard Coleman Stones Distin Baines Barry Besic McCarthy Lukaku Naisy Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) is it just me or why is naismith seen as a defitnate starter now, yes hes played well for what he gives you for say the last 10 games he's had for us but rom cost 28 million and hes playing on the wing. kev is also a better player but i can see why we play him wide. osman will not get us in europe if he has to play the majority of games too. we have to try something differant we look so easy to read on the pitch. and we still have this nervous mentality when winning a game. jagielka seriously needs to get better at keeping the ball its really frustrating that any chance howard and jags get they lump it up coleman---jags------------------distin-----------baines-- -----------------------barry--mccarthy--------------------- -------Atsu----------------Kev----------------Mcgeady--- ---------------------------Rom------------------------------- pace could win this game but i do admit this is not likely to be the 11 and ross would change that team dramatically. COYB Edited August 27, 2014 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) is it just me or why is naismith seen as a defitnate starter now, yes hes played well for what he gives you for say the last 10 games he's had for us but rom cost 28 million and hes playing on the wing. kev is also a better player but i can see why we play him wide. osman will not get us in europe if he has to play the majority of games too. we have to try something differant we look so easy to read on the pitch. and we still have this nervous mentality when winning a game. jagielka seriously needs to get better at keeping the ball its really frustrating that any chance howard and jags get they lump it up coleman---jags------------------distin-----------baines-- -----------------------barry--mccarthy--------------------- -------Atsu----------------Kev----------------Mcgeady--- ---------------------------Rom------------------------------- pace could win this game but i do admit this is not likely to be the 11 and ross would change that team dramatically. COYB He's been MOTM for the last two games, simple as that. For me its Rom who needs to prove he's worth the start. Completely sends out the wrong message to the players to drop the best performer. Edited August 27, 2014 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 is it just me or why is naismith seen as a defitnate starter now, yes hes played well for what he gives you for say the last 10 games he's had for us but rom cost 28 million and hes playing on the wing. kev is also a better player but i can see why we play him wide. osman will not get us in europe if he has to play the majority of games too. we have to try something differant we look so easy to read on the pitch. and we still have this nervous mentality when winning a game. jagielka seriously needs to get better at keeping the ball its really frustrating that any chance howard and jags get they lump it up coleman---jags------------------distin-----------baines-- -----------------------barry--mccarthy--------------------- -------Atsu----------------Kev----------------Mcgeady--- ---------------------------Rom------------------------------- pace could win this game but i do admit this is not likely to be the 11 and ross would change that team dramatically. COYB He's been the best player on the pitch both games! Played 2 scored 2. What more can he do? To drop him after that would be terrible management from Martinez and send the wrong message out to the squad. He's a guaranteed starter and rightfully so because he's more than earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kant Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I hope Martinez sets up the team to play the usual attacking game with confidence and arrogance, I can't see them defending for 90 mins and getting away with it. Fabregas, Costa, Hazard... that is real talent out there. I can't see more than a Chelsea win, but hopefully I am wrong on this one. Let's see how we can cope with the top teams of the division (Manchester City and Chelsea). Arsenal is right in our league "fight for 4th", as should be Tottenham and Liverpool. I somehow have the feeling that any of those teams competing for 4th, if they have a good run of form can challenge for the title. Let's see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I would start a fit Lukaku over Naismith any day. Naismith has done really well in the last two games and last season but Lukaku simply offers more. Personally I would put Naismith wide for this game and get him to cut inside. Ivanovich has been a key player for Chelsea in the last couple of games down the right so our left side needs to be watertight and I dont see McGeady offering that protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I would start a fit Lukaku over Naismith any day. Naismith has done really well in the last two games and last season but Lukaku simply offers more. Personally I would put Naismith wide for this game and get him to cut inside. Ivanovich has been a key player for Chelsea in the last couple of games down the right so our left side needs to be watertight and I dont see McGeady offering that protection. Despite my support for Lukaku, an inform player will always take priority in the picking and thats Naismith at the moment. Irrelevant debate though, since they're both going to be starting Kant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Lukaku and Naismith will both start anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Has there been any news on Pienaar? If he's okay to go I'd play with him on the left, Mirallas on the right and Naismith in behind Lukaku. If he can't play, I might try something like this: Howard Coleman Stones Jagielka Distin Baines McCarthy Barry Naismith Lukaku Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Has there been any news on Pienaar? If he's okay to go I'd play with him on the left, Mirallas on the right and Naismith in behind Lukaku. If he can't play, I might try something like this: Howard Coleman Stones Jagielka Distin Baines McCarthy Barry Naismith Lukaku Mirallas Martinez said Pienaar won't feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Despite my support for Lukaku, an inform player will always take priority in the picking and thats Naismith at the moment. Irrelevant debate though, since they're both going to be starting Don't forget that Lukaku has 2 assists (well played a big part in 2 of our goals this season) so I would hardly call him out of form. My reasoning would be that Naismith couldn't have created the two goals that Lukaku did but Lukaku could have finished off the two chances Naismith did. I wouldn't want to drop him from the team but my pick would be Lukaku if it was one of the other. Steve_E, Matt and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Fuck this, it's all out attack on Saturday.... T.How Jags Distin Coleman Baines Mccarthy Barry Welbeck Naismith Lukaku Eto'o BOOM!!! Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 ....oh....that turned out shit!!! Was meant to be 4-2-4. BOOM anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Wellbeck? Have I missed something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Diego Costa is out for up to 6 weeks, bonus. Torres has had his head turned by AC Milan. That leaves Drogba as their main strike option.... However they have quality from other areas to threaten our defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Diego Costa is out for up to 6 weeks, bonus. Torres has had his head turned by AC Milan. That leaves Drogba as their main strike option.... However they have quality from other areas to threaten our defence. Is Costa really oit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Don't forget that Lukaku has 2 assists (well played a big part in 2 of our goals this season) so I would hardly call him out of form. My reasoning would be that Naismith couldn't have created the two goals that Lukaku did but Lukaku could have finished off the two chances Naismith did. I wouldn't want to drop him from the team but my pick would be Lukaku if it was one of the other. Not saying Lukaku isn't in form, just that Naismith is in better form; better fitness, better movement, better goal return so far. If I absolutely had to make a choice, I would choose Naismith. But again, like I said, neither will be dropped and I'm happy with that, that is my first choice anyway Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Got to say for Lukakus assist against Arsenal I was about to hold my head in my hands, he ran the ball and nearly ran past it, lost his momentum allowing the defenders to get back, the pass did save it though, but.... yes it was nearly a momentum that made me despair. Lukakus overall play suggests he is some way off being where he needs to be. There is no way I would have him over Naismith at the moment. He can do great things in bursts and be a match winner but he is equally liable to having too many off moments at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Got to say for Lukakus assist against Arsenal I was about to hold my head in my hands, he ran the ball and nearly ran past it, lost his momentum allowing the defenders to get back, the pass did save it though, but.... yes it was nearly a momentum that made me despair. Lukakus overall play suggests he is some way off being where he needs to be. There is no way I would have him over Naismith at the moment. He can do great things in bursts and be a match winner but he is equally liable to having too many off moments at the moment. But he's going to be really psyched up to beat Chelsea ("you're not ready"). And so will Eto'o ("you're too old"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 433 or 442, i fancy our chances we beat them last year. Howard Coleman Stones Distin Baines McCarthy Barry Besic Lukaku Naisy Mirallas or Howard Coleman Stones Distin Baines McGeady McCarthy Barry Mirallas Naisy Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Wellbeck? Have I missed something Yeah, you bloody have. I said the other day I'd allow myself to get excited about the potential signings of Eto'o and Welbeck. Let me have my moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yeah, you bloody have. I said the other day I'd allow myself to get excited about the potential signings of Eto'o and Welbeck. Let me have my moments. Sorry Newty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsunyc Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Is Costa really oit? looks to be a game time decision: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/uk-soccer-england-chelsea-costa-idUKKBN0GS16F20140828 minor muscular injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBlue Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 looks to be a game time decision: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/uk-soccer-england-chelsea-costa-idUKKBN0GS16F20140828 minor muscular injury. Hopefully he is out, I am a little worried about Costa going up against Jags considering Jags form at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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