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Gone on loan to Bolton as of last month, apparently?

 

Like Joe Williams, must be somewhat highly rated if they think he can get time with a Championship club?

Don't think he's gotten a game yet though, unlike Williams (at least not in the league).

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11 hours ago, nutmegwolf203 said:

Most assists for Bolton this season and apparently his all around game has been great. Didn't realize the loan was going that well.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-antonee-robinson-gets-14429203

Some really high praise in that article. Maybe he's the real deal.

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3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

well alright!  sounds like we could have the successor to baines there.  doing well in the championship, maybe next year to a lower league premier side to get more time and then maybe he will be ready for us.

I'd be happy if he makes himself a useful squad player.

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On 3/19/2018 at 22:18, nutmegwolf203 said:

Most assists for Bolton this season and apparently his all around game has been great. Didn't realize the loan was going that well.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-antonee-robinson-gets-14429203

My favorite part of that article: 

After an impressive display at Sunderland in October Parkinson (Bolton Coach) added: “He saw off two very good wide players in Callum McManaman and Duncan Watmore and when I walked into the dressing room I looked at him and it didn’t look like he’d broke sweat.

Duncan Watmore is quick. Remember him burning multiple players with pace when Sunderland was in the top flight.

Also, wonder how he got the nickname Jedi?

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Just now, plaidharper said:

Also, wonder how he got the nickname Jedi?

Nevermind.  Just found this article: https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/03/22/14/30/20180322-feat-mnt-get-to-know-mnt-defender-antonee-robinson

Throughout Marlon Robinson’s (Antonee's dad) nearly 20-year coaching career, he made a habit to nickname his young players after the stars they reminded him of.

He started to coach Antonee at age five. When he began to put together the team that his son would play on, he told him that he could pick his own nickname. Antonee chose to forego association with any famous footballer.

“I picked ‘Jedi,’ Robinson said. “I just really liked Star Wars, and it’s stuck since.”

 

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6 hours ago, Louis said:

How is a nation with a population of 325m playing an international at home in a stadium with 10,000 capacity. That seems so absurd.

Louis no one cares about soccer here.  it's a fringe sport here.  NFL NBA MLB NHL and college sports rule.  Soccer is like 7th or 8th in popularity.  

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MJB, while I agree with you to an extent you also can't deny it's growth. If anything, I would say not making it to the World Cup will hurt growth going forward for a little bit due to lack of exposure, but MLS is going strong. Football is the biggest sport by far -- there's no denying that -- and soccer is ranked 4th in the popularity competition, but growth among other sports has decreased while soccer has increased. It's also important to note that there's not a big gap in popularity percentages among 2-4.

Keep in mind that Baseball used to be America's game, but in the next few years I expect it to drop below soccer. The article below has a good table showing general consensus popularity.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx

A 10,000 seater is not a big stadium, but you can't overlook your Atlanta's, Seattle's, Portland's, etc.

Just my 2 cents. :)

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On 3/23/2018 at 20:51, Louis said:

How is a nation with a population of 325m playing an international at home in a stadium with 10,000 capacity. That seems so absurd.

Because those shithouses aren't getting my support until WC qualifying starts again. 

 

Also, soccer is hardly a fringe sport here. https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76336/gallup-poll-soccer-closes-in-on-big-three-as-most.html

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1 hour ago, Quinn31 said:

Because those shithouses aren't getting my support until WC qualifying starts again. 

 

Also, soccer is hardly a fringe sport here. https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76336/gallup-poll-soccer-closes-in-on-big-three-as-most.html

7% favorite sport and it's not fringe?  sometimes i think you're just one of those contrarian people who takes the opposite view of everything regardless of personal belief.  like you have a mission to prove everyone wrong.  enjoy that

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On 24/03/2018 at 07:23, markjazzbassist said:

Louis no one cares about soccer here.  it's a fringe sport here.  NFL NBA MLB NHL and college sports rule.  Soccer is like 7th or 8th in popularity.  

With an average attendance of over 20,000 per game, MLS has the third highest average attendance of any sports league in the U.S. after the National Football League(NFL) and Major League Baseball(MLB),[11] and is the seventh highest attended professional soccer league worldwide.[12]

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4 hours ago, c1982 said:

 

With an average attendance of over 20,000 per game, MLS has the third highest average attendance of any sports league in the U.S. after the National Football League(NFL) and Major League Baseball(MLB),[11] and is the seventh highest attended professional soccer league worldwide.[12]

That doesn’t count college sports where college football has 100k stadiums being filled weekly.  It also doesn’t factor TV viewership.  I’ve never attended a premier league game, so according to your stat I don’t count.

 

MLS cup final - 2m viewsership

MLb World Series Final - 18.9m

NFL super bowl -  112m

NBA final -  20.4m

NHL Stanley cup - 4.7m

golf masters cup - 7.6m

 

paints a very different picture. Sure they have passionate fans that show up (so do most sports) but on TV no one watches it.

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Let's not get sidetracked and try to stay posi in a thread about Antonee!

USA didn't qualify because we were woeful.  MLS is woeful (sure it is getting better / growing but let's be honest about current state and not get into some silly debate that has so many angles).

Antonee (along with all the other YOUNG players) being called up today is an exciting thing.  Hopefully the USMNT will use the next four years to learn the mistakes of the past and build something worthy of a place in the next WC. Hoping Antonee starts over VIllafana! Also Tim Weah might get his first game? Honestly do not know much about him other than he is Geogre's kid.  Anyone watched him before? Today is the first time I have been slightly excited about the USMNT since that day last year when Pulisic was supposed to destroy Trinidad and Tobago (which did not end well + a rather large bar tab, *ugh* still shutter thinking about it)

Also, hopefully Antonee can be one for the future in our Everton side in a position that we are currently lacking in depth!

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39 minutes ago, plaidharper said:

Let's not get sidetracked and try to stay posi in a thread about Antonee!

USA didn't qualify because we were woeful.  MLS is woeful (sure it is getting better / growing but let's be honest about current state and not get into some silly debate that has so many angles).

Antonee (along with all the other YOUNG players) being called up today is an exciting thing.  Hopefully the USMNT will use the next four years to learn the mistakes of the past and build something worthy of a place in the next WC. Hoping Antonee starts over VIllafana! Also Tim Weah might get his first game? Honestly do not know much about him other than he is Geogre's kid.  Anyone watched him before? Today is the first time I have been slightly excited about the USMNT since that day last year when Pulisic was supposed to destroy Trinidad and Tobago (which did not end well + a rather large bar tab, *ugh* still shutter thinking about it)

Also, hopefully Antonee can be one for the future in our Everton side in a position that we are currently lacking in depth!

Agree that I'd much rather see Antonee. I don't seeing Villafana playing for us a the next World Cup (if we make it).

On Weah: he looks very, very promising. I could see him having a similar breakout as Pulisic in the next couple of years. He's getting minutes for PSG and seems to be impressing their coaches.  

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13 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

That doesn’t count college sports where college football has 100k stadiums being filled weekly.  It also doesn’t factor TV viewership.  I’ve never attended a premier league game, so according to your stat I don’t count.

 

MLS cup final - 2m viewsership

MLb World Series Final - 18.9m

NFL super bowl -  112m

NBA final -  20.4m

NHL Stanley cup - 4.7m

golf masters cup - 7.6m

 

paints a very different picture. Sure they have passionate fans that show up (so do most sports) but on TV no one watches it.

The 2014 World Cup final had 25m+ viewers in the U.S. 

Also, at 9%, is the American past time (baseball) fringe, in your eyes? What about basketball at 11%? 

What about the fact that soccer is more popular than baseball in the under 55 demographics and near equivalent to basketball?

Football dominates all other sports here, but soccer is near as important as any other sport.

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I'm actually pretty annoyed he didn't play. This is a meaningless friendly besides seeing what the future has to offer. I don't see Villafana (who started over him) as an option going forward due to his age and ceiling. It makes so much more sense to give a lot of these youngsters decent cameos to see how they play in a competitive environment on the international stage.

Also, Weah came on with about 4 minutes to go? What's the point? He barely had time to do anything. Sarachan should've brought him on sooner, but I think he was more worried about get a win in a meaningless friendly than he was about seeing future options. 

We also only scheduled one game. It's just poor planning all-around. I'm really disenchanted with the USA set-up right now.

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11 minutes ago, tonkaroost said:

I'm actually pretty annoyed he didn't play. This is a meaningless friendly besides seeing what the future has to offer. I don't see Villafana (who started over him) as an option going forward due to his age and ceiling. It makes so much more sense to give a lot of these youngsters decent cameos to see how they play in a competitive environment on the international stage.

Also, Weah came on with about 4 minutes to go? What's the point? He barely had time to do anything. Sarachan should've brought him on sooner, but I think he was more worried about get a win in a meaningless friendly than he was about seeing future options. 

We also only scheduled one game. It's just poor planning all-around. I'm really disenchanted with the USA set-up right now.

same, i have zero desire to follow or watch their matches.  ever since they fired klinnsman i just can't take them seriously.

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43 minutes ago, tonkaroost said:

I'm actually pretty annoyed he didn't play. This is a meaningless friendly besides seeing what the future has to offer. I don't see Villafana (who started over him) as an option going forward due to his age and ceiling. It makes so much more sense to give a lot of these youngsters decent cameos to see how they play in a competitive environment on the international stage.

Also, Weah came on with about 4 minutes to go? What's the point? He barely had time to do anything. Sarachan should've brought him on sooner, but I think he was more worried about get a win in a meaningless friendly than he was about seeing future options. 

We also only scheduled one game. It's just poor planning all-around. I'm really disenchanted with the USA set-up right now.

Indeed.

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i wonder if he will get a chance to usurp baines at LB.  funny all we heard about was dowell meanwhile this guy queitly went about 30 starts in the championship.

have high hopes but doubt he will replace him at the beginning of next season.

dowell suffered from the change of coaches mid season for forest, think he needs another loan

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3 minutes ago, plaidharper said:

have high hopes but doubt he will replace him at the beginning of next season.

dowell suffered from the change of coaches mid season for forest, think he needs another loan

ah didn't realize forest switched managers.  makes sense then.

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No way, we will sign someone to replace Baines. Baines might still stay for a year as backup. If Robinson develops further he might be in contention next year.

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It would be a double dream if he truly develops over the next two years. USMNT LB has been as sketchy as a right footed RB filling in for Baines.....

Play the damn young 'uns and for more than the last 4-5 mins. Need to keep bringing fresh blood in, especially when there is so much promising youth. Tyler Adams showed in one game that he deserves a shot to lock down a spot in the midfield for a few years. Best young MLS player USMNT has had in a while. No offense to Jordan Morris. 

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9 hours ago, Ghoat said:

It would be a double dream if he truly develops over the next two years. USMNT LB has been as sketchy as a right footed RB filling in for Baines.....

Play the damn young 'uns and for more than the last 4-5 mins. Need to keep bringing fresh blood in, especially when there is so much promising youth. Tyler Adams showed in one game that he deserves a shot to lock down a spot in the midfield for a few years. Best young MLS player USMNT has had in a while. No offense to Jordan Morris. 

Tyler Adams looks the real deal for sure. Still not sold on Jordan Morris though -- he's very raw but he does have that next level speed and good finishing ability.

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Hopefully he comes back 100% next year after he finishes ACL rehab. He does still have upside, this is only his 4th year (and it's going to be wasted due to ACL) in professional soccer, due to him spending 3 years playing NCAA.  Robinson has been a professional about the same length of time, and is three years younger. #Americasoccerproblems

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1 hour ago, Ghoat said:

Hopefully he comes back 100% next year after he finishes ACL rehab. He does still have upside, this is only his 4th year (and it's going to be wasted due to ACL) in professional soccer, due to him spending 3 years playing NCAA.  Robinson has been a professional about the same length of time, and is three years younger. #Americasoccerproblems

Yeah, I'm worried about the ACL injury. I was expecting this to be a breakout season for him.

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In the starting 11. Where the fuck did this come from?

Guys in the lineup 21 or younger from Everton, PSG, Man City, Werder Bremen, Borussia Dortmund - Makes me hopeful with these young talents - even if they don't end up at that level and fall to lower level Ligue 1, PL, Bundesliga teams, it'll be a step up on a lot of the MLS guys we've been fielding.

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30 minutes ago, Quinn31 said:

In the starting 11. Where the fuck did this come from?

Guys in the lineup 21 or younger from Everton, PSG, Man City, Werder Bremen, Borussia Dortmund - Makes me hopeful with these young talents - even if they don't end up at that level and fall to lower level Ligue 1, PL, Bundesliga teams, it'll be a step up on a lot of the MLS guys we've been fielding.

Refreshing to see some new faces for the USMNT. 

Lets go Antonee!

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Antonee looked really solid. 1 or 2 passes that were off or turned over, but overlapped well, show plenty of pace, got back on D, put balls in the box, very encouraging for both Blues and Red White and Blues

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4 hours ago, Quinn31 said:

In the starting 11. Where the fuck did this come from?

Guys in the lineup 21 or younger from Everton, PSG, Man City, Werder Bremen, Borussia Dortmund - Makes me hopeful with these young talents - even if they don't end up at that level and fall to lower level Ligue 1, PL, Bundesliga teams, it'll be a step up on a lot of the MLS guys we've been fielding.

Actually started 4 teenagers, and 2 of em scored! 

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45 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Sounds like playing first-team football and not just playing for our U23s has done him a lot of good.

Who'd have thought it.

And somewhere, Conor McAleny weeps

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1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said:

if he goes on loan again it needs to be a club that will play him, we don't need another galloway to west brom situation.

Yeah, I'd like to see him get 90 mins in at least one of the 2 remaining friendlies, because he needs the experience, and frankly we (US) need a LB. The idea of him on the left and Yedlin on the right is exciting. Then if all goes well in preseason, I'd rather see him with the first team in training, learning from Baines, Coleman, even Kenny and getting in the occasional game here and there. Galloway seemed like a good promising player, and it seems his development has been stunted (or maxed out, who knows).

 

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2018/5/30/17407988/usa-usmnt-bolivia-man-of-the-match-antonee-robinson-friendly

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8 minutes ago, Ghoat said:

Yeah, I'd like to see him get 90 mins in at least one of the 2 remaining friendlies, because he needs the experience, and frankly we (US) need a LB. The idea of him on the left and Yedlin on the right is exciting. Then if all goes well in preseason, I'd rather see him with the first team in training, learning from Baines, Coleman, even Kenny and getting in the occasional game here and there. Galloway seemed like a good promising player, and it seems his development has been stunted (or maxed out, who knows).

 

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2018/5/30/17407988/usa-usmnt-bolivia-man-of-the-match-antonee-robinson-friendly

yeah like the other article said it will be up for debate as to does he sit on the bench and learn from baines or go on loan.

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12 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

yeah like the other article said it will be up for debate as to does he sit on the bench and learn from baines or go on loan.

I'm not sure I would loan West Brom a pair of socks right now

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3 hours ago, Ghoat said:

Yeah, I'd like to see him get 90 mins in at least one of the 2 remaining friendlies, because he needs the experience, and frankly we (US) need a LB. The idea of him on the left and Yedlin on the right is exciting. Then if all goes well in preseason, I'd rather see him with the first team in training, learning from Baines, Coleman, even Kenny and getting in the occasional game here and there. Galloway seemed like a good promising player, and it seems his development has been stunted (or maxed out, who knows).

 

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2018/5/30/17407988/usa-usmnt-bolivia-man-of-the-match-antonee-robinson-friendly

The likelihood is that if he was our back up left back then he would get a fair run of games next season. Baines is likely to spend a few weeks injured and he shouldnt be playing two games in a week. 

Young players do need to play games but if they are actively considered as part of rotation (ie playing 1 in 3 or 4 games across the whole season) then staying at FF with the better coaches, better facilities and better players around him isnt going to do him any harm.

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