Hafnia Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 gone to the pub. Take it you won't be drinking Lennonade, Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Take it you won't be drinking Lennonade,you can not support Everton and drink lemonade markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 you can not support Everton and drink lemonade That's why we drink Lennonade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 That's why we drink Lennonade... Ugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 The guy has played 21 times for England in 9 years and I'd bet not even half of those were as a starter. When was he last called up? And how many times was Osman called up, yet he's been a staple of Everton for years. I don't put too much weight into how many times someone has played for England. That's more like asking who's a good ole boy and who's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 And how many times was Osman called up, yet he's been a staple of Everton for years. I don't put too much weight into how many times someone has played for England. That's more like asking who's a good ole boy and who's not. That wasn't the point I was trying to make.... Hafnia said he's an England international.... He's not and hasn't been for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 He's turned 28 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Ok lets get to the crux of it - what are we looking to create? The LA Lakers or The Harlem Globetrotters? A team that needs to get results or just looks good for the sake of looking good. We are in the business of trying to win games (score more and concede less). On the balance of things Lennon gives us more than Mirallas - no he isn't as skilful, he is more pacey, not as technically gifted but he gives us 5 x more than Mirallas when the opposition has the ball and whether you like it or not that is usually the case for 40 minutes of a game at least. Too much is made of Lennons end product - the reality is that due to his workrate he is on the ball more than Mirallas - he can be 50/50 in end producas far as i'm concerned because of the amount of time he gets on the ball. Lennon may put in 10 good balls out of 20, Mirallas may put in 8 out of 10. here's something that is interesting (as at Jan 22 2015):- Spurs pass completion: Lennon 85%, Eriksen, Chadli 84%, Lamela 82%, Townsend 79% Key passes by minutes of playing time: Eriksen every 36.3, Lennon 41.0, Lamela 51.5, Chadli 66.8, Townsend 76.8 minutes per key pass. Spurs chances created: Eriksen 51, Lamela 30, Chadli 26, Lennon 9, Townsend 6 Chance created by minutes of playing time: Lennon every 31.89, Eriksen 35.59, Lamela 44.6, Chadli 53.95, Townsend 64 minutes per chance created. Assists by minutes of playing time: Lennon every 143.5, Chadli 280.6, Lamela 334.5, Townsend 384.0, Eriksen 1,815.0 minutes per assist. Major actions (goal, assist, key pass) by minutes of playing time: Eriksen every 30.76, Lennon 31.89, Chadli 42.52, Lamela 43.16, Townsend 54.86 minutes per major action. The stats tell us Aaron Lennon creates twice as many chances as Andros Townsend and is one of our most creative attacking midfield player on a per minute basis, yet the little winger can't get a look-in. I'm not obsessed with Lennon, i'm bemused by the apathy towards a player who has made a huge difference to our team. Have you stolen my approach to defending a certain player here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Have you stolen my approach to defending a certain player here? No - I know what you are getting at - my point is value for money and contribution to the "team". Whether you like it or not the overriding issue that has been the case at Everton is £££, its the reason why we missed out on Kings dock, is the reason why we never got to sign some really key players and the reason why we have had to sell very good ones. £6m for a player who helps us tick as a unit, looks after the ball, and wins it back is absolute peanuts. The irony is that my criticism of Lukaku is that as a team player and someone who should bring others into the game and look after the ball he needs to improve a lot. I have not criticised him as a goalscorer - my concern is contribution to the team and linking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 No - I know what you are getting at - my point is value for money and contribution to the "team". Whether you like it or not the overriding issue that has been the case at Everton is £££, its the reason why we missed out on Kings dock, is the reason why we never got to sign some really key players and the reason why we have had to sell very good ones. £6m for a player who helps us tick as a unit, looks after the ball, and wins it back is absolute peanuts. The irony is that my criticism of Lukaku is that as a team player and someone who should bring others into the game and look after the ball he needs to improve a lot. I have not criticised him as a goalscorer - my concern is contribution to the team and linking up. I completely agree with your argument for Lennon, mostly because its laid out and explained almost identically to my method of defending Rom, which you never seem to accept. Just makes me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I completely agree with your argument for Lennon, mostly because its laid out and explained almost identically to my method of defending Rom, which you never seem to accept. Just makes me laugh You have clearly identified my issue with Rom - if he cost £10m I would not have so much of an issue. I have never skirted around that. Is it is his fault we paid that much? No. Is it an issue - with me it clearly is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'd credit this lad with more or less single handedly getting us out of the shit. Credit to his profession, awesome loan signing. Make it permanent. He sets an example. I can understand why he was made spurs captain on occasions. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'd credit this lad with more or less single handedly getting us out of the shit. Credit to his profession, awesome loan signing. Make it permanent. He sets an example. I can understand why he was made spurs captain on occasions. Completely agree, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. I was skeptical about his injury record, and that he can come across as a headless chicken at times, but his workrate and threat is fantastic to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) His poor crossing ability hasn't really been a factor because he's not really staying out wide and getting to the by line, so I haven't been frustrated with him as I expected to be. His best work (attacking-wise) has been through the middle. Those runs at the heart of the Burnley defence were brilliant, exciting. I was on the edge of my seat every time he got the ball (no idea why this was non-existent in the second half). And because they were so worried about him cutting inside and running at them it left Coleman with a lot of space to exploit. He's been a great foil for Seamus. What deficiencies he does have he's making up for them in other areas. A tick in Roberto's signings book for sure. Edited April 19, 2015 by Romey 1878 StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Agree with everything posted directly above here the lads done fantastic since he came and easily deserves a chance at getting a shot here.. If he wants to come that is, he may not fancy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 £6m gets a low to average player now, so that sort of money for Lennon is a no brainer for me. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2015/04/martinez-we-face-struggle-for-lennon-signing/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2015/04/martinez-we-face-struggle-for-lennon-signing/ Look at who commented on that... At least Martinez is preparing us for a disappointing summer . markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Tottenham aren't soft. He was loaned as a make weight for Mirallas. I won't be happy if he goes to WHL. However I'd be happy if we had both come next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2015/04/martinez-we-face-struggle-for-lennon-signing/ trying to drive down the asking price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Tottenham aren't soft. He was loaned as a make weight for Mirallas. I won't be happy if he goes to WHL. However I'd be happy if we had both come next season I'll show my arse n the front row of the Paddock first home game next season with MC11 you were right and I'm a complete twat so please kick fuck out of me written on each cheek if he's lining up in a Tottenham shirt that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'll show my arse n the front row of the Paddock first home game next season with MC11 you were right and I'm a complete twat so please kick fuck out of me written on each cheek if he's lining up in a Tottenham shirt that day. I'll be there to give you a good kick in mate. Peace out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/aaron-lennon-england-footballer-interviewed-5588592 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 So nothing to report really then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 They're reportedly asking for £10m for him now. Fuck. That. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I thought the loan had an option to buy and the price was 6 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Make weight - simple as that. We won't pay anything for him if Mirallas goes the other way. Which is what Spurs want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Mirallas wont go to Spurs, it's a sideways step he want cl footy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Mirallas wont go to Spurs, it's a sideways step he want cl footy. He left virtually guaranteed CL football to join us, he'd just played in one and Olympiakos had qualified for the group stages the following season as well, so I don't think that's his only motivation. He's certainly not going to be snapped up by any club with great ambitions of winning the thing so if he's waiting for that to happen it'll be a long wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 He left virtually guaranteed CL football to join us, he'd just played in one and Olympiakos had qualified for the group stages the following season as well, so I don't think that's his only motivation. He's certainly not going to be snapped up by any club with great ambitions of winning the thing so if he's waiting for that to happen it'll be a long wait. Yeah, but leaving to join a much more competitive, and richer, league. He doesn't have that draw this time so agree a move to Spurs will be a side step (with more money) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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