Aidan Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Watching the WBA vs Sheffield United game and didn't realise how Holgate seems to have filled out a fair amount this season! He also looks class on the ball. Maybe RB is his position, could save us a few quid on a RB next year if he keeps progressing with Kenny also pushing for it. Dowell took his header really well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Poor penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, barryj said: Poor penalty Daft decision to put him up first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 I’d agree with that. I wanted villa to go through so wasn’t fussed but the baggies defended well, especially after they were reduced to 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 16 hours ago, barryj said: Poor penalty Yeah but did you see that long throw for the assist for their only goal of the game? Imagine having long throwers on both sides... Must say I am surprised how well he has played at RB this season. Frankly, before the season started, I thought he was done in a blue shirt. Not sure he would make the Championship team of the season or anything but have to say well done to Mason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 HOLGATE BACK TO BAGGIES? Sky Sports News understands that West Brom want to take Everton defender Mason Holgate back to the Hawthorns on loan The 22-year-old spent the second half of last season on loan with Albion, but it’s believed Everton are not willing to allow the defender to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Well this would be stupid with us having lost Zouma and aren't able to bring him back, and not making any headway with getting someone else. If we do get someone else then fine, but that must be done first. Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 WBA have just signed a right back so would presume he’d be used as a centre back if a deal was sanctioned. As Romey said - no chance having lost Zouma and Jagielka but sign at least 1 quality centre back and it may be good for his development (should he play cb). Gibson could be a back-up option this season and I hope Mina will be a lot fitter after a ‘proper’ pre-season but I do think we need someone to build a 1st choice partnership with Keane. Gutted Zouma is looking less likely by the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 just sky filling their page with made up rumors. we need holgate here, he's not going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Apparently Sheffield keen on a loan. Provided we sign another CB & RB on loan, we should definitely do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 57 minutes ago, DownUnderToff said: Apparently Sheffield keen on a loan. Provided we sign another CB & RB on loan, we should definitely do that. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 So you want to get two loan players that would singularly be on more than mason wages wise to cover two positions that he can cover himself? Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Sorry, poorly written. Assuming that we're buying a CB (as expressed by Marco), and getting an RB on Loan (pretty sure the club has said this as well?). If we do that, Holgate would likely be 4th choice CB and 3rd choice RB. He needs to be playing, so a loan to a prem league team with Jags as a continuing mentor... No brainer for mine. Think Gibson has shown enough to be the 4th CB cover this year. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Fair play to mason he was in the away end watching West Brom v leeds last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mason-holgate-turned-up-marco-17181616 StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Oh fuck off Silva trying to take credit. The lad was playing regularly under Koeman and then had to go out on loan last season as Silva was playing a bang average at best Keane. Matt, rubecula and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Oh fuck off Silva trying to take credit. The lad was playing regularly under Koeman and then had to go out on loan last season as Silva was playing a bang average at best Keane. "I told him what I wanted, he understood and the good games he is having, all the credit is to him." -Silva Bailey, StevO and rubecula 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sibdane said: "I told him what I wanted, he understood and the good games he is having, all the credit is to him." -Silva The sentence starts with "I told him". A token credit to him at the end doesn't hide the fact Silva is trying to take credit and distance himself from why he wasn't playing in the first place. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 15 hours ago, pete0 said: The sentence starts with "I told him". A token credit to him at the end doesn't hide the fact Silva is trying to take credit and distance himself from why he wasn't playing in the first place. Part of the managers job is to tell the players things. I can't believe you've found a way to be annoyed about this. Who am I kidding, of course I can believe it! Sibdane, StevO and plaidharper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Part of the managers job is to tell the players things. I can't believe you've found a way to be annoyed about this. Who am I kidding, of course I can believe it! I've said similar previously. Unsure if it was Silva last time. Starting a sentence with "I" puts emphasis on yourself. It's a basic power move, just look at how often Trump uses it. By saying he'd told him what to do that takes away from the token credit to the lad at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, pete0 said: I've said similar previously. Unsure if it was Silva last time. Starting a sentence with "I" puts emphasis on yourself. It's a basic power move, just look at how often Trump uses it. By saying he'd told him what to do that takes away from the token credit to the lad at the end. Because Holgate went to him and asked what he needed to do. I’m unsure how else he’s supposed to word it. Manager does his job, explains in an interview, and is then criticised for it. Weird. I think you’re reading way too much into it. Personally I think the pair of them should be commended for the whole thing. The player for going to the manager and asking how he can improve (rather than being a moody player around the club) and then following those instructions, and the manager for being open and honest enough with that player (rather than seeing it as his authority being challenged). Matt, StevO and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Because Holgate went to him and asked what he needed to do. I’m unsure how else he’s supposed to word it. Manager does his job, explains in an interview, and is then criticised for it. Weird. I think you’re reading way too much into it. Personally I think the pair of them should be commended for the whole thing. The player for going to the manager and asking how he can improve (rather than being a moody player around the club) and then following those instructions, and the manager for being open and honest enough with that player (rather than seeing it as his authority being challenged). "Mason [Holgate] understood our defensive idea really well since the first day. He is a clever player. "But it is one thing if you know, another if you practice every single day. I read this as the manager saying he wasn't ready. "Mason came to my office not just because he wasn’t playing, he wanted to know what he should do in a different way to improve. "Sometimes it is up to them to work every single day in the way I think is best to perform and develop football players. I read this as the manager dating he's now ready thanks to the manager telling him what to do. Holgate played under Koeman who I'd argue understands central defence more than Silva. To go from 14 games on average the past two years to 4 games last year when Keane was average at best is very poor from the manager. Similarly he under used the other young players who were already here. Kenny (Coleman average for large parts) and Davies (take your pick of the midfield who largely putting 6s at best in most weeks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Good to see Mason Holgate taking his chance and putting in some good performances. London Blue and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Played well at the weekend, he looks so much more confident than Keane does, and is faster. Also noticed on Sunday that he was looking to play the ball forward whenever possible, still has a mistake in him, but he’s not alone in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 i have been a fan of his for a long time. people slated me for wanting him to play CB, they though he was a RB and not a good one. i was a fan at west brom, people said it's a shite league and he was a wingback, still not a cb. glad to see people are coming around on this. he will be a better player than his old teammate (from barnsley) John Stones. He may not command the transfer fee Stones did but he stays healthy and is very solid (unlike stones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Think they key is patience and consistency. There was always a player there. I’m not going into hyperbole yet but I’m pleased in his performances so far though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 He was solid again but it was very naive of him for the goal. He showed Alli inside onto his right foot when it was easier to push him wide. If that was Keane I would have expected a much more negative reaction. Sibdane and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Bailey said: He was solid again but it was very naive of him for the goal. He showed Alli inside onto his right foot when it was easier to push him wide. If that was Keane I would have expected a much more negative reaction. I think he would be disappointed watching it back. Showed Alli onto his stronger foot and also took the action away from his preferred side to tackle or block. Literally could have been a training cone in that moment. He still has some things to work on - not alone in that but he is positive. Mina has impressed the most though. I’m just about done with Keane. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Bailey said: He was solid again but it was very naive of him for the goal. He showed Alli inside onto his right foot when it was easier to push him wide. If that was Keane I would have expected a much more negative reaction. He's got goalside, just unlucky that Alli cut in just as he's getting into position. If he's not in that position Alli would had clear sight at goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 He was weak for that goal. But otherwise he was solid and pushed the ball forward. Rather see that than the other two passing to each for most the match. I give Ali credit more than Holgate making a mistake, but he could have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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