Finn balor Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 As soon as I saw the incident I knew it was a racial slur. Whether that happened or mason misinterpreted it that’s up to the investigation. It’s similar to Vera/Suarez incident. Mason might have misheard but his reaction is understandable regardless pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 The replay when Morgan is pushing Mason away you can see the accusation. He says to Morgan “he called me a fucking nigger”. He may have mouthed it to him, which would explain the ref not hearing. RF and MH were looking right at each other, as Kenny walks past the camera it looks to me like the ref is looking at the players around him. Just a theory anyway. They also don’t record the audio from the refs in domestic games, so no evidence there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sadly from my experience it looks like Firmino was trying to wind Mason up, and Mason was just ignoring it. Then Firmino ups the anti, and Mason reacts. One of the few things I know will generate this response is racist insults. Difficult to prove, but would explain Firmino being led awat by Liverpool's other players, and the ref taking no action against Mason for what should have been a yellow card for him. Totally unacceptable, and if it is true I hope he gets a substantial ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, London Blue said: Sadly from my experience it looks like Firmino was trying to wind Mason up, and Mason was just ignoring it. Then Firmino ups the anti, and Mason reacts. One of the few things I know will generate this response is racist insults. Difficult to prove, but would explain Firmino being led awat by Liverpool's other players, and the ref taking no action against Mason for what should have been a yellow card for him. Totally unacceptable, and if it is true I hope he gets a substantial ban. This is what I thought when it all came out. Surly he has to book Mason no matter what has happened and Firminho has to go. But I think the refs saying be didn't hear anything, Which is hard to believe seeing as when he did allegedly say it the ref was inbetween the pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 If it was just son of a birth then Holgate should have got a yellow at the very least. Firminho would have got a warning and nothing more, just a calm down or your next... as he didn’t do anything wrong other than wear red. If he did say a racist comment then he needs to have retrospective action taken. That would also explain the leniency towards Holgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 hours ago, London Blue said: Sadly from my experience it looks like Firmino was trying to wind Mason up, and Mason was just ignoring it. Then Firmino ups the anti, and Mason reacts. One of the few things I know will generate this response is racist insults. Difficult to prove, but would explain Firmino being led awat by Liverpool's other players, and the ref taking no action against Mason for what should have been a yellow card for him. Totally unacceptable, and if it is true I hope he gets a substantial ban. Doesn't make sense to me. If the ref hears that he should be sending firmino off and putting in a word straight away nwith the 4th official telling him exactly why. If the ref has heard it, he'll be too arrogant to come out and say he made a mistake until he retires and writes about it in a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, pete0 said: Doesn't make sense to me. If the ref hears that he should be sending firmino off and putting in a word straight away nwith the 4th official telling him exactly why. If the ref has heard it, he'll be too arrogant to come out and say he made a mistake until he retires and writes about it in a book. If he did hear, would he send a player off at Anfield? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 7 January 2018 at 10:27, hafnia said: He made twitter posts to his mates referring as faggot and batty boy in 2012 when he was at school.... ffs... I mean yeah if he did it now as an adult the throw the book at him but he was at school! Kids don't understand the depth or importance of such things at 15/16. I'm sure all of us have said many simioar things at that daft age. Adding to the fact that those words are used loosely at that age without any real understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Maybe the ref did hear it, but walked over to his 4th official, told him he heard it and left it for the match report as it’s much more serious than just a red card. If the ref gives a red is it not considered handled and he gets a three game ban? But if the ref reports it for investigation it can go further? Magazine, just guessing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/everton-mason-holgate-ban-liverpool/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 There really needs to be some sort of age limit on these things. He was 15! ok, if one of the under 16 players tweets something now, get the club involved, but you can’t give a player a ban as an adult for something said at 15. Matt, pete0, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, StevO said: There really needs to be some sort of age limit on these things. He was 15! ok, if one of the under 16 players tweets something now, get the club involved, but you can’t give a player a ban as an adult for something said at 15. Absolutely ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 He won’t recieve anything. Tabloids and Shite fans trying to deflect, that’s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/everton-mason-holgate-ban-liverpool/ He wasn’t a professional footballer when he was 15 so surely it’s out of their jurisdiction anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He wasn’t a professional footballer when he was 15 so surely it’s out of their jurisdiction anyway We’re going up against the devils club, so who the fuck knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Already said on SSP that the FA are aware of his comments when he was 15 but haven’t opened any investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Haiku said: Absolutely ridiculous. Our player potentially gets racially abused and the FA has to investigate our player for a tweet he made when he was 15? wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 We really don't know what what was said if anything. Besides that Holgate should have at least got a yellow card for the strong two handed push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 FA gone very quiet on this, surprised by how long they're taking; these things are normally judged very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Old ‘homophobic’ tweets from Andrew Robertson have been dug up now. It’s all ridiculous but hopefully that’ll shut those ‘loveable’ (can’t think of the word - where’s Marco when you need him?) reds up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 hours ago, c1982 said: Old ‘homophobic’ tweets from Andrew Robertson have been dug up now. It’s all ridiculous but hopefully that’ll shut those ‘loveable’ (can’t think of the word - where’s Marco when you need him?) reds up! Gobshites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, Paddock said: Gobshites? Cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Just now, Romey 1878 said: Cunts. Shitehawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paddock said: Shitehawks This isn’t word association, Pad I’m just saying the word Marco would use for our neighbours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: This isn’t word association, Pad I’m just saying the word Marco would use for our neighbours. Where’s Matt when you need him- I had loads of names ready to call the fucking weird twats 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Old ‘homophobic’ tweets from Andrew Robertson have been dug up now. It’s all ridiculous but hopefully that’ll shut those ‘loveable’ (can’t think of the word - where’s Marco when you need him?) reds up!To be honest I think the knobheads responsible for digging up those tweets are every bit as bad as the knobheads who dug up the Holgate tweets Bailey, Matt and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 24 minutes ago, Paddock said: Where’s Matt when you need him- I had loads of names ready to call the fucking weird twats 😡 What did I do?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Matt said: What did I do?! You’re the pun and word assosiation leader of the board. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: To be honest I think the knobheads responsible for digging up those tweets are every bit as bad as the knobheads who dug up the Holgate tweets I don’t- they’re merely showing the double standard ashamed of nothing offended by everything crabs that as per usual they need to get their own house in order before they critisise others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Paddock said: You’re the pun and word assosiation leader of the board. Aaah, very kind of you to say so (though Cornish forgot to mention that in his awards thread ) I think at that time of night, my pun-powers are not the sharpest Paddock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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