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complete polar opposite for me, he should be starting in place of Gana and alongside him after AFCON!

Fella next to me kept saying "get involved" Davies. I was sat there thinking the same thing quite a lot, more so in the first half than the second half

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Fella next to me kept saying "get involved" Davies. I was sat there thinking the same thing quite a lot, more so in the first half than the second half

we are talking about the scrawny kid with the daft hair, right??

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Have I said he's shit? I've actually said he looks a player, I just don't think he was as amazing as others think he was today.

I agree, he looks a bit of a headless chicken when he's off the ball. I appreciate he's keen as fuck. He had an excellent full debut but was hardly outstanding.

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Seems like the pundits are raving about his performance as well. Saying that for those who haven't seen it and get chance...watch this kid.

Didn't and can't wait, ever since his first cameo appearance been shouting for this lad to take Barry's place, after a few minutes you could see he had the energy we've been lacking, but that said he still obviously needs a bit of direction and that's something for the coaching staff to work on, but keep him in from what I'm hearing sounds like a breath of fresh air.

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Have I said he's shit? I've actually said he looks a player, I just don't think he was as amazing as others think he was today.

no, I meant seeing his work-rate during the game. I only noticed him so much because he was constantly on camera

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no, I meant seeing his work-rate during the game. I only noticed him so much because he was constantly on camera

When have I mentioned his work-rate? He ran about loads but I wanted him to actually touch the ball more. That's what I meant about involvement.

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no, I meant seeing his work-rate during the game. I only noticed him so much because he was constantly on camera

That's because he was running after the ball like it was iron and he was a magnet.

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It's interesting that the guys I assume were at the game (season ticket holders still?)...Paddock, MC and Rom have the same view, but opposing views to those who watched from the sofa.

 

Can't really argue against one or the other.

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When have I mentioned his work-rate? He ran about loads but I wanted him to actually touch the ball more. That's what I meant about involvement.

you said "get more involved" or words to that effect. I understood that as he wasn't getting stuck in, seems I misunderstood

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Let's not get into an all out ding-dong about the lad.

 

He did well. Statistically he was up there with the best players tonight.

 

But, he maybe does need to learn to chanel his energy more effectively. Can't accuse him of hiding though!!!

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I'm. Not saying he was poor, he played welland had an excellent debut but I don't think he was MotM or was superb.

 

He's full of energy and running but MCs "erratic" comment is spot on. He's allover the place but he's out of position a lot and he looks like he'll have a red card or two in him.

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Don't think anyone's having a "ding dong", just very surprised and trying to understand the other point of view

 

His running epitomised the pressing football that we've wanted for so long. Ok, it might need refining but for his first full debut I thought he was excellent and didn't hide; if anything he was the one most actively looking for responsibility

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Don't think anyone's having a "ding dong", just very surprised and trying to understand the other point of view

 

Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything.

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He looked lively but must agree with he was okay rather than star of the show. He does give it away a fair bit and could be exposed - he gets a free pass because of his age off our crowd, when Barkley does it it's all moans and groans. I think it was the perfect game for Davies today against a very tired Southampton. He needs easing in but there's certainly a very bright future for this lad.

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Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything.

Funny and also true ?

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Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything.

Don't start Newts!

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Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything.

 

It takes a ding-dong to start a ding-dong. What we really need is a constructive to and fro: a ping-pong, if you will.

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I think people are expecting a little too much from him. For his first proper start this season he was very good.

 

Our midfielders are all headless chickens and that is why it works because they are running around trying to cover a lot of ground. Gana is the same, McCarthy too, Barry not so much.

 

I was expecting him to do that, to be dynamic and get around the pitch but I wasn't expecting him to have that awareness on the ball and play some of the quality passes he did.

 

Good on him.

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I think people are expecting a little too much from him. For his first proper start this season he was very good.

 

Our midfielders are all headless chickens and that is why it works because they are running around trying to cover a lot of ground. Gana is the same, McCarthy too, Barry not so much.

 

I was expecting him to do that, to be dynamic and get around the pitch but I wasn't expecting him to have that awareness on the ball and play some of the quality passes he did.

 

Good on him.

Gans is far from a headless chicken, he reads the game superbly.

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Gans is far from a headless chicken, he reads the game superbly.

Yeh ok that is being unfair but what I mean is that they are almost going from one tackle to the next, they don't have any real control on the game. Besic is definitely a headless chicken because he sees the ball and goes for it regardless of anything else, and neither Gana or Davies are like that but they are asked to be all action in the middle and not run the game like Barry could.

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So what about Davies (and Calvert-Lewis) of late has altered for them to be involved, I mean, McCarthy was out earlier in the season so it's not his recent injury that has made way.....

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So what about Davies (and Calvert-Lewis) of late has altered for them to be involved, I mean, McCarthy was out earlier in the season so it's not his recent injury that has made way.....

He's been reading TTF.

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So what about Davies (and Calvert-Lewis) of late has altered for them to be involved, I mean, McCarthy was out earlier in the season so it's not his recent injury that has made way.....

I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball.

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I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball.

That and the old guard weren't doing it for him.

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I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball.

 

Oh dear, not another pig-thick mug that can't see the wood for the trees. (Only joking Ron mate, kick clown-shoes in the balls for me though)

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I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball.

I think also he and gana make forward runs which mean both Rom and Ross are finding more space. Tom's that good balance of energy and ability on the ball. He's only

Going to get better. I hope we sign another CM before city though because we are short at the moment without Gana, Jmac and Besic.

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Was happy with Davies' performance today but let's not kid ourselves. He's a prospect for the future and fans clamouring for him to start is damning of the squad.

 

We need to bring in quality players in the midfield. We need players who can make their mark on a game, command possession, win challenges and spray the ball about.

 

That's not to say that Davies isn't going to be a good player but that we are relying on a youth prospect because we have nobody else.

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He looked lively but must agree with he was okay rather than star of the show. He does give it away a fair bit and could be exposed - he gets a free pass because of his age off our crowd, when Barkley does it it's all moans and groans. I think it was the perfect game for Davies today against a very tired Southampton. He needs easing in but there's certainly a very bright future for this lad.

Bingo!

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Was happy with Davies' performance today but let's not kid ourselves. He's a prospect for the future and fans clamouring for him to start is damning of the squad.

 

We need to bring in quality players in the midfield. We need players who can make their mark on a game, command possession, win challenges and spray the ball about.

 

That's not to say that Davies isn't going to be a good player but that we are relying on a youth prospect because we have nobody else.

Only because we have no one else who plays the way we need our midfielders to which is the difference. McCarthy and probably Besic would normally be ahead of him but with their injuries and the limited mobility or Barry he is next in line.

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Only because we have no one else who plays the way we need our midfielders to which is the difference. McCarthy and probably Besic would normally be ahead of him but with their injuries and the limited mobility or Barry he is next in line.

 

Bes out all season, McCarthy out 95% of theseason so far. Labour the point but why suddenly now?

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Because Barry has been extremely bad and Koeman notices this when McCarthy stepped in for him.

 

Well I'm glad Lukaku has been fit, because god knows which keeper Koeman would have picked to play striker.....

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No ones kidding their selves.

He started and didn't look out of place.

 

Is he the answer? Course not, but he made a difference in the current squad and is good enough and ready for starting....as he himself proved.

 

We can argue all the becauses in the world, doesn't alter the fact that he started and performed.

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I thought he was excellent. His whole game is keeping the ball moving, being tidy and the odd risky run forward. For a kid of 18 he did a great job for me. Also linked up well with Ross and a great pass for the final goal.

 

Deserves to start against Leicester.

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So... do we reckon he's ready to start yet?

 

Mate of mine said in pub when he scored, 'you don't want him doing that during the transfer window'!

 

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He is doing everything he should be doing whilst Gueye is away on international duty but I fully expect Gueye to find himself back in the first XI upon his return.

 

Schneiderlin too, when fully up to speed, will get in ahead of him so unfortunately he will go back on the bench and make cameo appearances.

 

He's progressing very nicely though and certainly will keep the others on their toes. It's no surprise McCarthy is rumoured to be on the way out. Davies looks ahead of him in the pecking order right now.

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He is doing everything he should be doing whilst Gueye is away on international duty but I fully expect Gueye to find himself back in the first XI upon his return.

 

Schneiderlin too, when fully up to speed, will get in ahead of him so unfortunately he will go back on the bench and make cameo appearances.

 

He's progressing very nicely though and certainly will keep the others on their toes. It's no surprise McCarthy is rumoured to be on the way out. Davies looks ahead of him in the pecking order right now.

 

i don't believe for a moment we will get rid of McCarthy. It's just fine to have competition in midfield. It's where games are won and lost.

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Yeah, but we have too many central midfielders. Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Schneiderlin, Gana, Davies, Barkley and .... Gibson? And we still have Cleverly on permanent. I guess Koeman wants to keep him, but McCarthy himself said that he wants to play regularly. Something that can't happen obviously, so he better go. I hope we get some reasonable cash for him.

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Yeah, but we have too many central midfielders. Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Schneiderlin, Gana, Davies, Barkley and .... Gibson? And we still have Cleverly on permanent. I guess Koeman wants to keep him, but McCarthy himself said that he wants to play regularly. Something that can't happen obviously, so he better go. I hope we get some reasonable cash for him.

We never had enough last week. Competition is good, just hope the manager picks in form and tactically rather than a pecking order.

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Found out yesterday he went to the secondary school I went to (West Derby Comp.) which would make him one of, if not the first big named footballer to be a former pupil of there which is great seeing as the Catholic equivalent (and direct rivals!) of that school is Cardel Heenan which produced a lot of former footballers including Gerrard, Hibbo and Nugent.

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