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12 minutes ago, Paddock said:

That’s why  my whole analysis of him  was being a headless chicken at times and rash but he will develop and get better. He’ll become a good prem player Nogs but he’s no Gerrard or Lampard and that’s what fans need to stop expecting.

Nobody is expecting a Gerrard or Lampard, but he has the potential to be a very good player. When I have watched him he does not run about like a headless chicken, his reading of the game is amazing for someone with so little experience. I am just enjoying watch him develop into very good player for us.

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51 minutes ago, Paddock said:

That’s why  my whole analysis of him  was being a headless chicken at times and rash but he will develop and get better. He’ll become a good prem player Nogs but he’s no Gerrard or Lampard and that’s what fans need to stop expecting.

Yeah and I'd say that about all our young players. The thing that Davies doesn't seem to have in his locker that  Gerrard, Scholes or Lampard had is goals, interestingly that seems to be DCLs weakness too, and If Barkley doubled his goal tally every season, no one would be questioning his supposed lack of progress. So something for our youth coaches to look at maybe? 

Tale of caution from Lampard - there's a story that when he broke his leg as a youngster, some West Ham fans booed him as he left the field, no doubt the shithouses that that particular club specialises in. Sure that meant he wasn't really all that arsed about leaving for Chelsea a few years later and going on to be a PL legend. Bet the same West Ham fans booed him every time he went back to Upton Park for being a traitor. 

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1 hour ago, London Blue said:

Nobody is expecting a Gerrard or Lampard, but he has the potential to be a very good player. When I have watched him he does not run about like a headless chicken, his reading of the game is amazing for someone with so little experience. I am just enjoying watch him develop into very good player for us.

I never said I was I said that’s the problem with the dickhead element of our fans- expecting the younger players to be as good and when they’re not- slaughtering them.

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4 hours ago, Paddock said:

Don’t think anyone written anyone off just gave an honest balanced opinion of where they think the players are. I think more of a problem is some of our fan base watching our younger players and expecting them to  turn in to Messi or Ronaldo eventually- unrealistic expectations of them and when the inevitable happens and they don’t become worldies they fume at them.

That's just what gets my goat too!

Young players have 2 expectations...either shite, not good enough or going to be amazing!

What about just being able to be a good solid squad player? We spend £15 mill just on average players. If a handful of the yuff can make it as solid squadies, job done.

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All I said to start this was I didn't think he would develop into a top player. I think he will be a good solid Premier League player. I just think when he first came in, I thought he was going to be an absolute star. Now after 50 odd games, I don't think he has enough goals or assists in him. He does however, have good attributes. I am not slagging off the lad at all. He does frustrate me though with his yellows.......

 

I think DCL will improve dramatically more than Davies. I think he has huge attributes to be a top centre forward. I dont think he has the natural eye for a goal like Lukaku, but I think he affects games hugely with other parts of his play.

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2 minutes ago, sydneyneil said:

All I said to start this was I didn't think he would develop into a top player. I think he will be a good solid Premier League player. I just think when he first came in, I thought he was going to be an absolute star. Now after 50 odd games, I don't think he has enough goals or assists in him. He does however, have good attributes. I am not slagging off the lad at all. He does frustrate me though with his yellows.......

 

I think DCL will improve dramatically more than Davies. I think he has huge attributes to be a top centre forward. I dont think he has the natural eye for a goal like Lukaku, but I think he affects games hugely with other parts of his play.

Impetuousness of youth.

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16 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

His first touch is often very heavy, meaning he has to lunge to retrieve the situation. I’m surprised he hasn’t been sent off yet because of it. 

I am biased as I rate him, but I think his first touch is pretty good, better than Gana's just behind Morgan. He does have the ball pinged into him a few times.

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Deserves to be in our first team no doubt and at 19, I would say he is ahead of schedule. Super excited to see how he develops.  Better question is why are some of our older / more experienced midfielders playing so poorly that they are not displacing him from the starting lineup like they should. Before picking Tom apart on what little we have seen of him (transfermarkt has him at 40 games, that's like 1 season), think some others deserve some attention in that regard.

Also, was interesting to see transfermakt has him at 8mil so certainly has some fans (if not everyone in this thread).

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19 minutes ago, London Blue said:

I am biased as I rate him, but I think his first touch is pretty good, better than Gana's just behind Morgan. He does have the ball pinged into him a few times.

I just think he’s average tbh. And that is absolutely fine but our fans talk about him being a £30m player and I just chuckle because it’s some crazy shit. 

Gana gets stick because he follows the ball but Davies is just as bad. He charges after it like a little puppy, but he’s very slow so he rarely gets near and is then too slow to get back in position, leaving us vulnerable. He also anticipates pretty much nothing, meaning he’s rarely in the right position at the right time. 

So yeah, average. Not a player where I think to myself “he must play every week because he’s just that good”. He’s got time to improve but I really don’t see him becoming anything other than average. 

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6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

I just think he’s average tbh. And that is absolutely fine but our fans talk about him being a £30m player and I just chuckle because it’s some crazy shit. 

Gana gets stick because he follows the ball but Davies is just as bad. He charges after it like a little puppy, but he’s very slow so he rarely gets near and is then too slow to get back in position, leaving us vulnerable. He also anticipates pretty much nothing, meaning he’s rarely in the right position at the right time. 

So yeah, average. Not a player where I think to myself “he must play every week because he’s just that good”. He’s got time to improve but I really don’t see him becoming anything other than average. 

Game of opinions I guess, I see a different player.

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1 hour ago, Bailey said:

Yeh he offered nothing today but then again we didnt exactly do anythig through midfield. 

Exactly unless we start Shaq O'niel none of our midfielders are going to have a lookin with balls wizzing over their heads. 

Once a game of football breaks out where actually try to pass the ball to each other, Tom, and the other midfielders will be able to show their ability's.

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