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I stand by my opinion that he's not ready to be a regular starter. Not just a knee-jerk over today's game either, he drifts in and out of games such that for long periods you don't even know he's on the pitch.

 

Today, though, it just was a game that was just so beyond him.

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I stand by my opinion that he's not ready to be a regular starter. Not just a knee-jerk over today's game either, he drifts in and out of games such that for long periods you don't even know he's on the pitch.

 

Today, though, it just was a game that was just so beyond him.

I feel he was set up to fail with that formation against Spurs. Not disagreeing with you, but no one looked good in midfield bar Barkley.

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I stand by my opinion that he's not ready to be a regular starter. Not just a knee-jerk over today's game either, he drifts in and out of games such that for long periods you don't even know he's on the pitch.

 

Today, though, it just was a game that was just so beyond him.

Completely agree. Take the blue tint off and he's been mostly average bar a game or 2. Needs time to sub in from the bench. Gana and schneiderlin both looked a lot better.

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I feel he was set up to fail with that formation against Spurs. Not disagreeing with you, but no one looked good in midfield bar Barkley.

I agree the formation didn't help him but today's game was much too fast for him. So I don't think he was going to do well today no matter where he was played.

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Completely agree. Take the blue tint off and he's been mostly average bar a game or 2. Needs time to sub in from the bench. Gana and schneiderlin both looked a lot better.

I thought Gana was the worst player in the pitch. Positionally all over the place, and on the ball kept playing us in to danger.

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I thought Gana was the worst player in the pitch. Positionally all over the place, and on the ball kept playing us in to danger.

He was intercepting balls left and right and stopping their attack. Making tackles and defending: not sure what you want from a defensive mid but that and a nice forward pass are what I look for.

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Is 18.

 

Remember when Barkley was 19/20 and the shouts were his inconsistency was due to being involved too much too young? Davies ought to be used sparringly, especially in such a turned around selection and setup like today, expecting total football from a just broken through youngster smacks of over expectation. Hopefully we can avoid the grinding down of him (like what happened with Barkley).

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He's nowhere near the natural talent Barkley had. Davies is more of an erratic in ya face type player. Barkley just oozed class. So comfortable on the ball.

 

For every Thomas Gravesen there needs to be a Lee Carsley.

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I think there's a good chance he'll get sent off if he starts in the Derby.

By no means is that a good thing but Christ, how long has it been since someone injected a bit of passionate aggression into the Derby?

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Weird one really. Barkley's contract is running down but apparently we can afford to leave that one for a while. Davies isn't going anywhere but we've given him a new deal after a handful of appearances :unsure:.

 

Nice pay rise for the kid though.

Barkley is likely waiting on rom to sign a deal and playing hard ball to get a giver wage. Don't blame the lad

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Weird one really. Barkley's contract is running down but apparently we can afford to leave that one for a while. Davies isn't going anywhere but we've given him a new deal after a handful of appearances :unsure:.

 

Nice pay rise for the kid though.

Davies was probably a piece of piss to sort out!

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Weird one really. Barkley's contract is running down but apparently we can afford to leave that one for a while. Davies isn't going anywhere but we've given him a new deal after a handful of appearances :unsure:.

 

Nice pay rise for the kid though.

Over the longer term i reckon Davies will prove to be the better option tbh, Barkley has to suffer from idiot fans shouting at him, the rubbish with the national team everytime he gets selected, and he has been fairly slow to get going in his career, it's only this season he is really starting to show some proper form. Maybe the club just see Davies as the future and want to tie him down before someone else comes chasing after him.

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Over the longer term i reckon Davies will prove to be the better option tbh, Barkley has to suffer from idiot fans shouting at him, the rubbish with the national team everytime he gets selected, and he has been fairly slow to get going in his career, it's only this season he is really starting to show some proper form. Maybe the club just see Davies as the future and want to tie him down before someone else comes chasing after him.

Not really sure how any if that is relevant to letting Barkley's contract run down tbh.

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I'm as sure as everyone else is that thinks he has been offered one.

Haven't seen one report saying he was offered one.

Not everyone. I don't think he's been offered one either :shakingfist:.

 

Edit - well, that clearly isn't how you do that emoticon :lol:.

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I'm as sure as everyone else is that thinks he has been offered one.

 

Haven't seen one report saying he was offered one.

Koeman said a few weeks ago that he was offered a contract? When he was on about both Barkleys and Lukaku's contracts.

 

Basically he said if he does not sign then he must be sold because then his intentions are elsewhere.

 

I'm sure we spoke about it on here somewhere!

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Trying it without the full stop. Did it work???

 

EDIT: Nope!!!

weird, must be a limit of the quote function

 

:shakingfist:

Nope! Louis, Mike - did you clean up the emoticons recently?

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Another game when I don't know what he's actually done.

 

I want to be blown away by him like the rest of you :(.

Poor today but Valencia was literally our only other senior player available! I'm glad Koeman cleared the likes of Gibson and Oviedo out but we could have done with a couple more senior players in!!! Great experience for the youngsters I suppose!

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Another game when I don't know what he's actually done.

 

I want to be blown away by him like the rest of you :(.

I think the main issue is that he's been jammed into the team at AM since buying Schneiderlein and getting Gana back (plus playing Ross out wide). I don't think it's a coincidence that his first few games were his best for us, when played next to Barry in a box-to-box role.

 

We just need to get a marque playmaker and use him as a rotation player next season. Can't afford to rely on an 18 week in and week out anyway.

 

Edit: Plus injuries are certainly a factor. Could've been McCarthy playing that same role if he wasn't out.

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He was poor last night, think he needs to be taken out of the limelight and given a rest as soon as we get bodies back

 

 

 

What is everyone expecting? Didn't score 20 goals in one game? Oh, the woe.

 

Thought his pressing in the first half was much needed. Once second half started / the subs happened / the shape changed he drifted out of it but he wasn't the only one guilty of it. Still stoked on this young player.

 

All that being said, cannot wait for Morgan to be back. No one in midfield keeps that rolls royce out the side.

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