Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Letting Howard go with no viable replacement would be very stupid. Good keepers are very very hard to come by. Sunderland procured an excellent goalie for free. It is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Not yet. We've got a couple more seasons with us and he's an important part of the dressing room. Any fee would be Micky mouse and not go anywhere near the price of a replacement. Think we would get the same kind of money we got for Cahill. Won't be too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Sunderland procured an excellent goalie for free. It is possible. Who Mannone? He's far from excellent and back to my point..... Top clubs wait for years to replace their keeper and without grooming someone into the position or spending huge straight swops hardly ever work. Edited November 30, 2014 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 he's shit and he scares me having to watch the lad. i watched him off the ball yesterday and he restrapped his gloves, hit himself un the face and wiped his brow with his arms aswell as jumping up and down all in the space of 30 seconds.. the man isnt consentrating in the game and he isnt the most intelligent of footballers. drop him, drop him, drop him Sorry, bit late to the debate here and can't quite work out if your being sarcastic or not. You are aware that Howard has Tourette's, and that the 'ticks' you've highlighted are not him 'not concentrating' as you've suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Who Mannone? He's far from excellent and back to my point..... Top clubs wait for years to replace their keeper and without grooming someone into the position or spending huge straight swops hardly ever work. Sunderland didn't get Mannone for free; obviously it can't be him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Sunderland didn't get Mannone for free; obviously it can't be him. Who then? Pantillimon? He's also shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Who then? Pantillimon? He's also shite. If Pantilimon is shite, then Howard must be a pimple deep inside the r***** of a donkey. Sunderland's change in fortunes, from conceding eight against the Saints to holding the mighty Chelsea to a goalless draw, is chiefly owing to the towering contribution of Pantilimon. You might want to check out Sunderland's performances since Pantilimon came into the team. He has made all the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 If Pantilimon is shite, then Howard must be a pimple deep inside the r***** of a donkey. Sunderland's change in fortunes, from conceding eight against the Saints to holding the mighty Chelsea to a goalless draw, is chiefly owing to the towering contribution of Pantilimon. You might want to check out Sunderland's performances since Pantilimon came into the team. He has made all the difference. He's nowhere near as good as Howard lol. City didn't even offer him a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Begovic in Howard out gets my vote. Peter Chec anyone? Yes we think he wouldn't come but he'd stay in the prem, point to prove, Eto'o, Lukaku... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Howard is a class keeper. Why anyone would want him replaced now is ridiculous. We should be looking to replace Robles if anyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 He's nowhere near as good as Howard lol. City didn't even offer him a new contract. We are talking about Manchester City here, not Charlton Athletic. Most likely Pantilimon wanted regular first team football. A is better than B or vice versa is a matter of opinion. You know that I don't rate Howard, so we might just as well leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Howard is a third class keeper. Corrected your error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 We are talking about Manchester City here, not Charlton Athletic. Most likely Pantilimon wanted regular first team football. A is better than B or vice versa is a matter of opinion. You know that I don't rate Howard, so we might just as well leave it at that. Yes Manchester City did not offer him a new contract to sit on their bench. Therefore... He's not what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Yes Manchester City did not offer him a new contract to sit on their bench. Therefore... He's not what we need. None of us knows why Pantilimon's contract at City was not renewed. My interpretation, as I have already pointed out, is that Pantilimon wanted regular first team football; hence he was not interested in an extension in the first place, as it would only hurt his international career. He is a respected goalkeeper and there is no shame in being a benchwarmer at City - a fate that befell many an able footballer. Edited November 30, 2014 by millwallforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) None of us knows why Pantilimon's contract at City was not renewed. My interpretation, as I have already pointed out, is that Pantilimon wanted regular first team football; hence he was not interested in an extension in the first place, as it would only hurt his international career. He is a respected goalkeeper and there is no shame in being a benchwarmer at City - a fate that befell many an able footballer. From what I've read he was never offered a contract.... He also sat on Sunderlands bench for months and also only kept Hart out of the side for a few weeks.... When Hart was playing absolutely shite. If he was that good Hart would never have got bk in. Edited November 30, 2014 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) From what I've read he was never offered a contract.... He also sat on Sunderlands bench for months and also only kept Hart out of the side for a few weeks.... When Hart was playing absolutely shite. If he was that good Hart would never have got bk in. Emphasis added: None of us knows why Pantilimon's contract at City was not renewed. Pantilimon did manage to push England's first choice goalie out of the best team in the league and he probably did deserve to keep his place. He is Sunderland's first choice goalie now. Please get back to me as soon as Mannone pushes Pantilimon out of the team. The more likely outcome: Pantilimon will establish himself as one of the finest goalkeepers in the EPL. Edited November 30, 2014 by millwallforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Emphasis added: None of us knows why Pantilimon's contract at City was not renewed. Pantilimon did manage to push England's first choice goalie out of the best team in the league and he probably did deserve to keep his place. He is Sunderland's first choice goalie now. Please get back to me as soon as Mannone pushes Pantilimon out of the team. The more likely outcome: Pantilimon will establish himself as one of the finest goalkeepers in the EPL. **vaults** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Be my guest; you will end up there yourself - once again **vaults** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Get rid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 He should've done better with their first today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 He should've done better with their first today.yeah, can't defend him for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 He's not that bad though. He really isn't. I doubt there's any available keepers that are better than him. I like Paddy ' s call for Cech. That would be ace. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 He's not that bad though. He really isn't. I doubt there's any available keepers that are better than him. I like Paddy ' s call for Cech. That would be ace. thats also dream world unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 thats also dream world unfortunately It sure is!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 thats also dream world unfortunately More than likely but none of us expected Lukaku to sign. Still almost certainly wont happen but imagine we could get him. It's in the papers Liverpool are in for him in Jan. If he'd go there he would come to us. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Said it from the beginning, a keeper is there to perform and save you in certain games when called upon.....not to cost you in every other..... He needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Said it from the beginning, a keeper is there to perform and save you in certain games when called upon.....not to cost you in every other..... He needs to go. 30/11/2014 +2 follower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Do the U-21s have someone more promising? As an American I'm partial to Howard, but yeah, he's fucked up too much this season. The problem for me is, what's the solution? Do we have someone in the pipeline? Would everyone be happier with the backup? And why does Howard play so well against Europa competition but not against PL competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 30/11/2014 +2 follower Bestest day ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Said it from the beginning, a keeper is there to perform and save you in certain games when called upon.....not to cost you in every other..... He needs to go. he has done that many a time for us. 5 clean sheets in 8 games before yesterday just as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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