Deacs Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Seeing has MJB hasn't, thought I'd get us going. I've been very negative the last couple of days time for some optimism. Would like to see Barkley and Kone on the bench for this one. Naismith and Lennon to start (given up on Mirallas). Hopefully we can maintain our tempo for the whole 90 mins and pick up a good win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Defensively we need to be a lot better and certainly more clinical. I've given up on suggesting team changes but think we will win 2-1 rom and gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Howard Coleman Stones Mori Baines Cleverley Barry Deulofeu Barkley Mirallas Lukaku Sideliner, Matt and MC11 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted December 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Howard Coleman Stones Mori Baines Cleverley Barry Deulofeu Barkley Mirallas Lukaku I'd like to see Lennon given a run and Mirallas moved central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks deacs had a busy weekend and didn't have the chance. A draw if we are lucky here. Personally I think we will lose big. Their standard plan is give you all the possession and then counter smash and grab. Basically they are our kryptonite. I see a big loss 3-1. I don't see any changes because rm is stubborn as they come. Kone a full 90, 1 sub and 12m worth of mirallas and Lennon riding the bench. Howard Coleman stones Mori baines Cleverley Barry Gerry Barkley Kone Lukaku Deacs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted December 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks deacs had a busy weekend and didn't have the chance. A draw if we are lucky here. Personally I think we will lose big. Their standard plan is give you all the possession and then counter smash and grab. Basically they are our kryptonite. I see a big loss 3-1. I don't see any changes because rm is stubborn as they come. Kone a full 90, 1 sub and 12m worth of mirallas and Lennon riding the bench. Howard Coleman stones Mori baines Cleverley Barry Gerry Barkley Kone Lukaku If I were a betting man i would put my left nut on that being the starting 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I have a feeling we will see Kone on the bench for this one. However, I think McCarthy will come back in and we'll see Cleverley on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 After the "must wins" this is a "will lose" BAH HUMBUG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 This is a *must draw*. We can't win it seems, so let's go for the draw again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I have a feeling we will see Kone on the bench for this one. However, I think McCarthy will come back in and we'll see Cleverley on the left. Think this is spot on. Remember the start of the season when all midfielders were fit? Cleverley is his first choice LM... Absolutely bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKR toffee Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Starting line up I would like to see Howard Coleman mori stones baines McCarthy if fit Gerry cleverly barkley mirralas Lukaku I would also like naismith and Lennon to come on at sometime in the game preferably not last 5 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I don't see how u can drop cleverly. I know u don't rate him mc but we miss McCarthy big time. I'd be tempted to match Leicester and go 4-3-3 clev,McCarthy and Barry and then mirrallas rom and Gerry Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 We should be fucking second or do the draws we've had. Add the last three to Swansea and the shite and we'd be laughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I don't see how u can drop cleverly. I know u don't rate him mc but we miss McCarthy big time. I'd be tempted to match Leicester and go 4-3-3 clev,McCarthy and Barry and then mirrallas rom and Gerry It's about getting the balance right. Martinez formation is a lob sided 4-4-2 when Kone plays and square pegged when Cleverley plays out wide. Just play Mirallas you ignorant horrible cart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 3 drawers in a row means he needs to change something. Mirrallas needs to play. Kone needs a rest and Barkley needs a kick up the arse Gwlad, Elston Gunnn and Sideliner 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKR toffee Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Surely must be looking at 3 points here I know there having a good season but we should be beating teams like this but there again it will probably be another bloody draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Surely must be looking at 3 points here I know there having a good season but we should be beating teams like this but there again it will probably be another bloody draw I think the players and the manager have just been complacent in our last three, thought we only had to turn up to win against "lesser" opposition. Hopefully Leicester's position in the league will concentrate their minds and we'll get ninety minutes instead of forty-five. Still no doubt in my mind we're potentially a top four team. We just need to get on a run and Christmas would be a good time to start; it destroyed us last season, hopefully this year we'll turn it around. Matt and Deacs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Big game, we've been lucky with the results the last few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 This game is going to be end to end. A giant mess and a heart attack for both sets of fans. Our biggest issue is game management. We don't know how to shut teams down any more. Getting McCarthy back and moving Cleverley to the left for this one would be best, I think. I realize this is an unpopular opinion. But, I'd rather win through playing a controlled game than lose/draw playing swashbuckling stuff. McCarthy can do the dirty work and has the legs to run all game. Barry is responsible with the ball at his feet. And Cleverley can do a bit of everything, but most importantly he can keep the ball ticking over and link with Baines. I think part of Barkley's issue (beyond being half asleep) is that Kone has been wading into his position too much. Kone has been great (for 60 minutes) and has both held the ball up well and made some excellent passes. But, he leaves us unbalanced. It's time we try something new. Cleverley and Baines linking up a la Bainaar would provide an excellent complement to our dangerous counter-attacking speed and less controlled play on the right. Sideliner and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Dreading this one. schmeichel has been solid, Howard I have no confidence in. After the last few results I fear for the worst. Come holidays I'm worried well be in the relegation battle again for the second straight year. Fuck me Everton sometimes I wish I could give you up. But I'll be there 9am watching my stream and hoping for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted December 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) I think the players and the manager have just been complacent in our last three, thought we only had to turn up to win against "lesser" opposition. Hopefully Leicester's position in the league will concentrate their minds and we'll get ninety minutes instead of forty-five. Still no doubt in my mind we're potentially a top four team. We just need to get on a run and Christmas would be a good time to start; it destroyed us last season, hopefully this year we'll turn it around. Hopefully you will be as accurate with this prediction (if that's the right word) as you have with your scores Edited December 14, 2015 by Deacs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev627 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 We need to win the remaining games of 2015 or we'll be the laughing stock of Merseyside (again?)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Dreading this one. schmeichel has been solid, Howard I have no confidence in. After the last few results I fear for the worst. Come holidays I'm worried well be in the relegation battle again for the second straight year. Fuck me Everton sometimes I wish I could give you up. But I'll be there 9am watching my stream and hoping for the best. We weren't in a relegation battle last year. Dude, you're going to give yourself a heart attack if your approach to supporting Everton remains as it is! Even if we lost the next 5 matches, we would still bounce back and worst case be in the same position as last year. I'm not saying that that is acceptable, it clearly isn't, and whilst dropping 6 points over the last 3 games is incredibly annoying, there are still 18 games or 54 points to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 We weren't in a relegation battle last year. Dude, you're going to give yourself a heart attack if your approach to supporting Everton remains as it is! Even if we lost the next 5 matches, we would still bounce back and worst case be in the same position as last year. I'm not saying that that is acceptable, it clearly isn't, and whilst dropping 6 points over the last 3 games is incredibly annoying, there are still 18 games or 54 points to play for. I can always count on a bit of sanity from you, Matt. Thank you for not believing that every little issue is a sign of the "end of days" at Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I can always count on a bit of sanity from you, Matt. Thank you for not believing that every little issue is a sign of the "end of days" at Everton. I think you need to see a therapist if you think that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I think you need to see a therapist if you think that It's all relative. You are "Everton sane" if nothing else. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted December 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I can always count on a bit of sanity from you, Matt. Thank you for not believing that every little issue is a sign of the "end of days" at Everton. No ones talking about the end of days Joe. What some of us, and I count myself among them are saying is that we should be doing better than we are. I also believe that we are not seeing anything from Martinez to suggest he is able to change that. I'm seeing what I perceive to be the same mistakes week in week out and that's not based on the last few weeks it's based on the last season and a half. Even the end of his first season in charge I felt we didn't really go all out for the Champions League spot. We beat Arsenal emphatically and then sat back. Mike O pointed out in a different topic that Martinez has assembled this very good squad we currently have, and he deserves credit for that (RM, not Mike) but he needs to show some flexibility, decisiveness and visible leadership in order to take this club where it should be. Sideliner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 It's all relative. You are "Everton sane" if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 We weren't in a relegation battle last year. Dude, you're going to give yourself a heart attack if your approach to supporting Everton remains as it is! Even if we lost the next 5 matches, we would still bounce back and worst case be in the same position as last year. I'm not saying that that is acceptable, it clearly isn't, and whilst dropping 6 points over the last 3 games is incredibly annoying, there are still 18 games or 54 points to play for. 22 games and 66 points by my arithmetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 22 games and 66 points by my arithmetic. I'll take your word for it, was try to post on my phone during a meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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