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Are we to apply the logic that all players previous seasons performances should be erased based on latter ones???

 

Mccarthy was absolutely brilliant in our record points season. He was like a one man pressing machine. Whatever has happened I do not know. Is it fitness or injury? He's lost that superhuman fitness that he had.

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Martinez statement

 

It has been an honour to be the manager of Everton Football Club for the past three seasons. I am clearly disappointed that we wont be able to finish what we started and I feel that the forthcoming transfer window would have been significantly important for many reasons.

"I will treasure this period as Everton manager forever the memories of reaching a club record 72 points tally in the Premier League, reaching the final 16 of the Europa League and the excitement of reaching the semi-finals of both domestic cups this season.

"I express my gratitude to Chairman Bill Kenwright, who understood and supported my vision and who gave me the privilege of becoming an Evertonian. My sincere thanks also go to my players who have been an inspiration to work with, my assistant Graeme Jones, the Everton Board and all of the staff who work for this magnificent club, especially those at Evertons Finch Farm training ground for their tireless help and support on a daily basis.

"I appreciate that over the last eight weeks our league results havent been up to the levels that we would expect. However, over the past three years the support the fans have given to me and the team has been inspiring.

"I know that the team and the fans will react well against Norwich today and I wish everyone the best of luck for 3 points which would match last season's League points tally.

"Finally I would like to congratulate Tim Howard on his outstanding contribution and career at the club. Tim has been an incredible ambassador for Everton and I wish him well for his future in the MLS."

- See more at: http://www.leaguemanagers.com/news/lma-latest/roberto-martinez-statement/#sthash.jjZ5qjoQ.dpuf

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The one thing that worries me about that statement, and the outside public view actually, us this continuous mention of recent results being why he was sacked. Actually, I'd like to think that it was 2 years of underachievement that lead to his sacking...recent results were just the cherry on top.

 

Another thing about Martinez. Since his sacking, many people in and around football have spoke about him. Not a bad word to say about him as a person. It makes it hard to believe these stories of fall outs etc. But hey ho, the ship has sailed!

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I never said I wanted shut of McCarthy, I just posted what I was told ?

 

My thoughts are he has been shit because of the system we play, look at the amount of shots we concede, look at the way we don't press around our own area and stand off opposition players we slways have a huge void between our penalty area and midway through our own half because we drop so deep.

 

Basically Martinez tactics have contributed to McCarthys dip in form imo.

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....the stuff being thrown at McCarthy can be said of most players on the pitch.

 

Who in recent months has made you really feel proud of their performances? Lennon maybe. Bits of Barry. No one else really.

 

They are shot of confidence. Don't look fit enough for a full on 90. Don't press. Lack hunger. Don't seem to know what they are supposed to be doing.

 

I suppose that's how Martinez gets sacked.

 

I'll hold back overly criticising one player when the lot have been way below par. Get a new guy in, they can all start again.

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Genuine question, did you not rate him in his first season?

I've never rated him bar a couple of performances. There is absolutely nothing in his game. He is honestly the most overrated player I've ever seen in a blue shirt. My mates United fans and Liverpool fans laugh at those who say he's good. He's dogshite. Passes sideways (no vision), stands off his man and jockeys rather than making calculated challenges. He's always there to lose his balance in dangerous areas.

 

Needs to be shown the door with Martinez

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Genuine question, did you not rate him in his first season?

 

I did, and he booked nice results didn't he? It just gave me the impression that he is one of those managers who has nice strategies and a nice game play, but forgets to drill in the basics of football and disciplin. So once your tactics are figured out, you have nothing to fall back on and Everton just collapsed. The only reason why we're not in relegation areas is due to the sheer class of players the club has. Martinez had nearly 2 years to figure it out and he couldn't, so, that was bad.

 

I'm afraid that the interest in De Boer would be a reactionary response. It's like the board acknowledges that there wasn't enough disciplin and concentration on the pitch. But I hope they won't lose sight of the fact that strategic brilliance is also what sets a great manager apart from an average one.

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MThe whole backroom team he has is an absolte joke. Graham Jones and Denis Lawrence, it's a league one coaching team that and I'm deadly serious.

 

Denis Lawrence defensive coach of Everton FC he must have woke up every morning looked in the mirror and slapped himself to make sure it wasn't a dream.

 

The man shouldn't be allowed withing a mile of our players.

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I know, right? Perhaps in someone'e memoirs at some point.

 

Towards the end of the article it talks about our "attacking quality" - I guess I must have been watching the wrong team lately, I don't see that quality anywhere on the pitch these days.

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MThe whole backroom team he has is an absolte joke. Graham Jones and Denis Lawrence, it's a league one coaching team that and I'm deadly serious.

 

Denis Lawrence defensive coach of Everton FC he must have woke up every morning looked in the mirror and slapped himself to make sure it wasn't a dream.

 

The man shouldn't be allowed withing a mile of our players.

 

Will those guys go or leave when the new manager comes in, or is it too early to say?

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Here is an idea though: would you be against a specific thread that was devoted to JUST video regarding EFC? Either newsclips, Toffee TV, other fan stuff. etc? I know that there is a fanbase for that stuff here (besides me) and it wouldn't pollute the other proper threads. Just an idea.

 

I'll put it to the committee :).

 

We have a majority of admin/mod agreement on this (unanimous in fact among the three of five who've offered an opinion), but out of courtesy I've emailed the guys at ToffeeTV to make sure it's OK with them. Assuming it is we'll open a thread specifically for their vids.

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Good article if true. From the body language of stones and Baines it has to be either of them. If he was that naive and arrogant to believe that teams hadnt Sussed us out last season then he is an idiot. I think he got into that mentality that when he first came in he'd play Barkley,stones etc cos he was new and fresh and then after the second season he just wanted to keep his job and play his regulars in wrong positions and hopefully scrape a cup. Fuck that! I hope we have a 3 or 4 man shortlist. Jose, koeman, de boer definates

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I wonder indeed.

 

A good mate of mine has just done his UEFA A licence. Still a young bloke, he doesn't (yet) work in UK league football, but he has worked with a few international teams and as a coach at a few smaller european teams.

 

I was chatting this week with him about what was wrong at Everton. He said that he had also been on a course recently with Danny Donachie (my mate originally got into football through being a physio) and some other physio bloke who was at Chelsea and has a connection to Everton, but whose name I can't recall. Anyway, he learned from them that Graeme Jones is known as an ogre and twat around the game generally and that he had been playing a 'Sergeant Major' figure at Goodison. That was the first that I had heard of that about Graeme Jones, so I was surprised. He also said that Jones had fallen out with pretty much with all the players, so the player in question could be anyone, I suppose. I reckon it was Baines.

 

He also said that Martinez is considered a joke for sticking to his 'don't practice set pieces' etc... schtick, but added that there are loads of other managers that are in that boat. Owen Coyle for example.

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I'd presume Distin. Ok not Distin.

 

An international player presumably a defender.... One of Jags, Baines, Stones or Coleman?

 

I thought it was Barkley, tbh. Weren't people saying he had an argument with Jones? Though I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the above, considering they're all defenders.

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We have a majority of admin/mod agreement on this (unanimous in fact among the three of five who've offered an opinion), but out of courtesy I've emailed the guys at ToffeeTV to make sure it's OK with them. Assuming it is we'll open a thread specifically for their vids.

 

You're the man Mike - cheers guv'ner.

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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/royal-blue-evertons-public-spat-11364267#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other

 

Seems Morishi has got the power if this is correct:

 

The arrival of ambitious investor Farhad Moshiri, and with Bill Kenwright staying on as chairman, looked an ideal combination for the Catalan.

 

But when things went from bad to worse on the pitch, it proved far from so as Moshiri gave the nod for his sacking in the wake of the Sunderland debacle.

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