duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 To play devils advocate; if you bought the club tomorrow, would you keep the manager? Me personally yes, I think he deserves more time , however it would be easy to see why new owners would want to bring in their own man. After all football is a results business and ours have been shite Deacs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 To play devils advocate; if you bought the club tomorrow, would you keep the manager? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Me personally yes, I think he deserves more time , however it would be easy to see why new owners would want to bring in their own man. After all football is a results business and ours have been shitesame here, though I'd give him an ultimatum regarding emphasis on defence and goalkeeping. If he can't handle that, he can resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Not at all , it just means that he has finally given in to the abusers and granted them their wish Abusers? Bit dramatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Abusers? Bit dramatic Sorry by abusers I meant all the people who have given him abuse, if there is a more appropriate term please feel free to correct it for me MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Sorry by abusers I meant all the people who have given him abuse, if there is a more appropriate term please feel free to correct it for me I think critics is more appropriate myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 I think critics is more appropriate myself. The line between criticism and abuse has certainly been crossed many times. You've seen it. It hasn't all been high-minded criticism. You're capable of that, but not everybody else is. Also, I'm not sure all criticism levied at Bill has been fair. Many supporters seem to go on witch hunts. It's one of the things that drives me absolutely insane. Someone decides who/what the problem is, and then everybody becomes convinced that all we need is to remove this cancer and we will be back to where we belong. It doesn't matter who comes in and takes over the club, because as soon as results aren't perfect, they will be made out to be villains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 To play devils advocate; if you bought the club tomorrow, would you keep the manager? Yes. But I'd sit him down, say nice to meet you, pat him on the back for the squad he has built. Then get down to the real stuff. Conceding goals. What's the plan? What will change? How is he going to sort it out? And I'd be deaf honest and say that this isn't a one off happening, this has been happening for a while. Depending on his answers...yes might turn to no!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 I think critics is more appropriate myself. Some critics. Fair enough. But a lot of abusers who over step the mark. The stereotypical football man who thinks he knows everything about the club, and how it needs to be run, and is entitled to act however he wants. Kenwright has had to fave a fair few of them. Unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 to be fair, no one would know if they are or not until they're in control. A large part of it could be down to their trickery if they get in a strip the club (still don't know what off mind you), and not necessarily down to BK knowingly selling to the wrong person. Either way, it's clear that any potential suitors would've continued to be more thoroughly vetted, it just looks like there's less time to do so now It's not so much the they'll asset strip, IMO, it's more that I fear they'll syphon money away through a leveraged buy out, which will see the club landed with nice debts...then they'll lend money from their own investment buddies, at nice fat interest rates...basically, doing whatever they can to get hold of the tv money. Give me another Kenwright, although one with more bollocks to make tough calls behind the scenes, over some equity type investment firm thingy any day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Give me another Kenwright, although one with more bollocks to make tough calls behind the scenes, over some equity type investment firm thingy any day!!! A Kenwright with money would be nice too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 http://www.footballeconomy.com/content/anerican-investors-steam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 A Kenwright with money would be nice too! Ha! Yeah, certainly a Kenwright with a bit of Premiership worthy coin would be ideal!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Surprise, surprise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Surprise, surprise... https://twitter.com/fourthofficial_/status/688789847797018627 Bloody Martinez!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Surprise, surprise... Pleased. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Very pleased about this. I was not impressed by the record of the lead investors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Surprise, surprise... https://twitter.com/fourthofficial_/status/688789847797018627 Fking hell, drop Howard for this. Robles wouldn't have let this happen. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Fking hell, drop Howard for this. Robles wouldn't have let this happen. Haha...yes yes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 What did they see in the books that they didn't like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 What did they see in the books that they didn't like? Could be possible our lot spent time with them and didn't think it was a good idea either like the Swansea board did. I echo a lot of the above, after lots of research on my own I don't think they would be great owners. I'm alright with this result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Could be possible our lot spent time with them and didn't think it was a good idea either like the Swansea board did. I echo a lot of the above, after lots of research on my own I don't think they would be great owners. I'm alright with this result. Could be. You would have thought they would have researched the Americans before granting them exclusivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bloody Martinez!!! Fking hell, drop Howard for this. Robles wouldn't have let this happen. Haha...yes yes!! Are you guys related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Are you guys related? Not yet, at the moment there're just intimate, we're awaiting an announcement . I already have a hat luckily. Romey 1878, Matt and Deacs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Not yet, at the moment there're just intimate, we're awaiting an announcement . I already have a hat luckily. Ha ha TT's very own love story, just what this season needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Wasn't convinced by those interested, genuinely believe there's better options (even on the table). Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Saw a Twitter debate last night and Rory Smith, The Times journalist who broke the story, is saying it's still on https://twitter.com/rorysmithtimes/status/688816568797638656 Edited January 18, 2016 by duncanmckenzieismagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I watched a program about Robert Kraft and New England patriots. I'm glad they never got Liverpool - they said they were interested not through money but to win things - that is why they never pursued it... bit of a dig to Liverpool. They seem to have a great structure in making commercial revenue as well as smart sporting decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) I watched a program about Robert Kraft and New England patriots. I'm glad they never got Liverpool - they said they were interested not through money but to win things - that is why they never pursued it... bit of a dig to Liverpool. They seem to have a great structure in making commercial revenue as well as smart sporting decisions. Edit: Talking shit. Wrong Kraft. Edited January 18, 2016 by Lowensda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Edit: Talking shit. Wrong Kraft. don't follow, explain? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/american-sports/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-7188614 Edited January 18, 2016 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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