aaron Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Ive always said Coleman is a shite defender, great at going forward but shite at the back so why not use Coleman as a winger and Kenny as the RB? Wouldn't be too bad. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, aaron said: Ive always said Coleman is a shite defender, great at going forward but shite at the back so why not use Coleman as a winger and Kenny as the RB? Wouldn't be too bad. The thought had crossed my mind too, would certainly give us more stability and threat down the right hand side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, aaron said: Ive always said Coleman is a shite defender, great at going forward but shite at the back so why not use Coleman as a winger and Kenny as the RB? Wouldn't be too bad. if his pace is gone he will offer nothing in attack, he can't cross to save his life. his pace and runs were what made him special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Matt said: Maybe not this season, or at least not this year. But he will be back Yeah i think he will be back, but i'm not sure he will he be the same player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 I hope he does come back as he is one of my favorite players, but I just think he won't be the same player. His pace, stamina and aggression are what made him such a great right back, after that injury I think he will of lost two of those things. I don't think he would make a good winger as his crossing was always hit and miss and his passing average. He is best on the over or underlap where his pace really hurt opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, London Blue said: I hope he does come back as he is one of my favorite players, but I just think he won't be the same player. His pace, stamina and aggression are what made him such a great right back, after that injury I think he will of lost two of those things. I don't think he would make a good winger as his crossing was always hit and miss and his passing average. He is best on the over or underlap where his pace really hurt opponents. The thing with Coleman is that he isn't the sharpest tool and in that regard I don't think he will lose his aggression because I doubt he will think about it too much, unlike some of the others. He will do it and then deal with the consequences rather than consider the risk like most. He certainly shouldn' be played as a winger though. Anyone thinking that should have a long hard look at themselves in the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bailey said: The thing with Coleman is that he isn'tt the sharpest tool and in that regard I don't think he will lose his aggression because I doubt he will think about it too much, unlike some of the others. He will do it and then deal with the consequences rather than consider the risk like most. He certainly shouldn' be played as a winger though. Anyone thinking that should have a long hard look at themselves in the mirror. Why? He’s been one of the best attacking outlets we’ve had for years and his best performances are usually in the oppositions half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Bill said: Why is it I can't get rid of previous Quotes, have tried the clear editor and it only clears the post, the quote box stays there. As above. Try posting a blank post, it may reset it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Matt said: Why? He’s been one of the best attacking outlets we’ve had for years and his best performances are usually in the oppositions half. Because at FB he gets the space he needs to play. As a winger he won' get the same luxury. Not only that but we should be aiming higher than a RB playing as a winger! London Blue and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 9 hours ago, aaron said: Ive always said Coleman is a shite defender, great at going forward but shite at the back so why not use Coleman as a winger and Kenny as the RB? Wouldn't be too bad. I get the point, but I think Coleman is good going forward because he’s coming from a deeper position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Bailey said: Because at FB he gets the space he needs to play. As a winger he won' get the same luxury. Not only that but we should be aiming higher than a RB playing as a winger! I’m not saying it’s ideal or what I want, but it’s a viable option and might be good for Kenny in the long run. Just checked the mirror by the way. I’m a handsome bastard after a shave Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 We tried Coleman at right midfield. He doesn’t have the skill set for it. He is a marauder. He works best coming from full back position and building momentum and speed to blast past players. Romey 1878 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Shukes said: We tried Coleman at right midfield. He doesn’t have the skill set for it. He is a marauder. He works best coming from full back position and building momentum and speed to blast past players. When he was first tried there he had a good start, but was then quickly found out and moved further back to RB. It'd be totally wrong to play him as a RM. If he looks shit if he automatically comes back in for Kenny or can't displace Kenny then he can sit on the bench and wait his turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Ive always said Coleman is a shite defender, great at going forward but shite at the back so why not use Coleman as a winger and Kenny as the RB? Wouldn't be too bad.Because Coleman is not a RW he is a RB and we need to put the days of square pegs in round holes behind us. That and Coleman is far from being a shite defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Because Coleman is not a RW he is a RB and we need to put the days of square pegs in round holes behind us. That and Coleman is far from being a shite defender He was a shite defender but his defending has come on massively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: He was a shite defender but his defending has come on massively. I think that was because he started RW with a decent RB in Hibbert covering and showing the defensive side and learnt from it. There’s good arguments to playing a position that you then have to support once you’ve developed and solidified your role. Again, not saying it’s ideal but to dismiss it completely is daft. aaron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, Matt said: I think that was because he started RW with a decent RB in Hibbert covering and showing the defensive side and learnt from it. There’s good arguments to playing a position that you then have to support once you’ve developed and solidified your role. Again, not saying it’s ideal but to dismiss it completely is daft. It’s not daft at all when it was shown that he was quickly worked out as a RW and is why it was stopped. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: It’s not daft at all when it was shown that he was quickly worked out as a RW and is why it was stopped. Might be my memory, but wasn’t it at least the first half of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Matt said: Might be my memory, but wasn’t it at least the first half of the season? Does it matter how long? The only thing that matters is that it stopped working because his surprise factor could no longer make up for his lack of ability as a true winger. I’m not a fan of squeezing players in in other positions just get them in the team. If they can’t get in in their natural positions then they shouldn’t get in at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Does it matter how long? The only thing that matters is that it stopped working because his surprise factor could no longer make up for his lack of ability as a true winger. I’m not a fan of squeezing players in in other positions just get them in the team. If they can’t get in in their natural positions then they shouldn’t get in at all. Just pointing out it was game time, valuable experience. I’m not one for shoving players in for the sake of it, which is why I’ve repeatedly said it’s a viable option but not ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Kenny is one of the real bright spots of this season. So, too, is Holgate, and I'm not sure why he was dropped for an extended run of games. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Schalke after him on loan according to SSN. Burnley and Palace also interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 I’d happily send him on loan, provided we actually get another RB and not just bring Holgate in as a back up RB/CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Schalke after him on loan according to SSN. Burnley and Palace also interested. Schalke or Palace. I think Burnley will be relegation fodder next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said: Schalke or Palace. I think Burnley will be relegation fodder next season. He’d get plenty of defending experience then... Haiku 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Sell him please, he’s not good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Sell him please, he’s not good enough No harm in letting him have a season on loan playing first team footy. Has shown more than garbutt ever did yet is pushed out the door quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Btay said: No harm in letting him have a season on loan playing first team footy. Has shown more than garbutt ever did yet is pushed out the door quicker. He’s not been pushed out the door though has he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 We wouldn’t ever have kept Coleman with some of you... his loan to Blackpool was essential for him, Kenny could benefit from the same. Calls to say he’s not good enough are unfounded and ludicrous. Wiggytop and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 15 hours ago, StevO said: He’s not been pushed out the door though has he? Just a lot more calls to sell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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