Romey 1878 Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: He looked fine towards the end of last year and his been good this preseason. Whether it's one year or three it makes sense to get a solid RB in place now and look for the next big thing when that time comes. You should plan ahead for when your important players are coming to the end. You get the next one in before the time comes, not when they fall apart for the final time. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Makis said: Maybe they don't think JJ and Holgate are good enough and worry about Coleman's fitness or just think he needs upgrading as well? It doesn't matter how good or bad they are if they dont play, its only for cover. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, Romey 1878 said: You should plan ahead for when your important players are coming to the end. You get the next one in before the time comes, not when they fall apart for the final time. We are, apparently, by signing a good RB with international experience for the World Champs who is nearly 4 years younger than our current guy at a time when Coleman still has something left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: We are, apparently, by signing a good RB with international experience for the World Champs who is nearly 4 years younger than our current guy at a time when Coleman still has something left. So Coleman plays for another year, maybe 2, and then this RB is first choice but is at the point where we need to be looking for his replacement! What we should be doing is signing Coleman’s long term replacement now (around the age of 23). Either to come straight in now and relegate Coleman to a bench player (like Digne did to Baines) or to come in and be the long term RB after a season of watching. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: So Coleman plays for another year, maybe 2, and then this RB is first choice but is at the point where we need to be looking for his replacement! What we should be doing is signing Coleman’s long term replacement now (around the age of 23). Either to come straight in now and relegate Coleman to a bench player (like Digne did to Baines) or to come in and be the long term RB after a season of watching. Unless Kenny is the long term replacement, and this guy is cover / competition for Coleman and then make a decision on Kenny after his season long loan. Newty82, Matt, nyblue23 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: So Coleman plays for another year, maybe 2, and then this RB is first choice but is at the point where we need to be looking for his replacement! What we should be doing is signing Coleman’s long term replacement now (around the age of 23). Either to come straight in now and relegate Coleman to a bench player (like Digne did to Baines) or to come in and be the long term RB after a season of watching. Ignoring the age thing for a moment, I think the immediate financial considerations are getting lost here. We have spent a good bit already and have some players on the squad whose wages we may or may not be able to get off the books. Beyond that we've been attached to some large bids on wingers in this window and will want to bring in a CB most likely. I really doubt we'd have the ability to bring in a 23 year old RB who could come relegate a still very solid Coleman to the bench without spending a ton of money. Assuming that we can't just launch endless 40m bids on players, it makes a lot of sense to me to get a good RB for relatively cheap and address the future of the position in a couple of years when we will presumably have more available funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Competition for Coleman. We simply cannot full blown drop him for a new player, we owe that to him as a club and have to respect the influence and leadership he has on and off the pitch. He's an important player for us. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, London Blue said: Unless Kenny is the long term replacement, and this guy is cover / competition for Coleman and then make a decision on Kenny after his season long loan. This could be a factor. A good, solid RB addresses our immediate concerns while still allowing for Kenny to develop or a big future signing. It seems very sensible to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 We've already got a good solid fullback in Martina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill said: We've already got a good solid fullback in Martina. I constantly forget we still pay him. woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Makis Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill said: It doesn't matter how good or bad they are if they dont play, its only for cover. So why have cover if they don't play? I mean if they are needed it does make a difference if those players are shite or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Pickford has cover on the bench every week but they never play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Bill said: Can't understand why they sent Jonjoe out on loan and then look to buy a fullback, JJ and Holgate could cover for seamus whenever they're needed. If the RB isn’t a loan deal, I’ll be very surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 If its true its a win win for the club. If he doesn't play as well as we hoped we don't have to sign him. If he does we only have to pay £13m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Aidan said: If its true its a win win for the club. If he doesn't play as well as we hoped we don't have to sign him. If he does we only have to pay £13m. Yea that’s perfect. Even if he’s decent we could decide to go after a long term Coleman replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Ok seriously Marcel. Stop. This is absolute robbery. He’s outdone himself again. Just spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 He looks a unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 That sounds like a decent deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 i previously stated i wasn't happy about this since he's 27 and we wouldn't have a sell on. at 12m i take back what i said, that is stupid cheap in this market. well played marcel, well played. you can't even buy league one youngsters for that cheap. we need to build the marcel statue outside bramley moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Marcel is going to build on his already great reputation. I'm starting to worry that other clubs are seriously going to try to get him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Aidan said: Competition for Coleman. We simply cannot full blown drop him for a new player, we owe that to him as a club and have to respect the influence and leadership he has on and off the pitch. He's an important player for us. In today’s world of sport, we don’t owe any player anything. They must win their position through ability and effort. The fact is that Coleman has blown hot and cold in the last 18 months. We need cover right now, and this would appear to be a good solution. For the long term, this position is Kenny’s for the taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: In today’s world of sport, we don’t owe any player anything. They must win their position through ability and effort. The fact is that Coleman has blown hot and cold in the last 18 months. We need cover right now, and this would appear to be a good solution. For the long term, this position is Kenny’s for the taking. My point was Coleman should be given the chance for this guy to knock him off his pedestal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post c1982 Posted August 5, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Bill said: Can't understand why they sent Jonjoe out on loan and then look to buy a fullback, JJ and Holgate could cover for seamus whenever they're needed. What's going to be better for Kenny’s development, sitting on the bench for us or playing regularly in Germany for a year? Btay, DownUnderToff, Newty82 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, c1982 said: What's going to be better for Kenny’s development, sitting on the bench for us or playing regularly in Germany for a year? This, a season in a good league where he can really develop, come back next season a much more rounded and better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 This is a good signing - Coleman for as much as I respect him, was woeful at parts last season and we need someone who can step in straight away at a good level. 12m is a steal for competitive, international experienced player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 I still can’t bleieve this, 12m and he’s in his prime! Wow if this is true it is a steal. I thought he’d be 30m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Good move by the club this. Planning ahead. Bring this guy in on loan. See how Kenny gets on in Germany. If Kenny bosses it, we bring him back and send this man back. Keep Kenny. Also, if Coleman declines more, he steps back, bring Kenny back, snap up this guy too. All angles covered. Know their Shit, don't they?! Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Does anyone know if this lad is actually any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Aidan said: Does anyone know if this lad is actually any good? Never seen him play but he has caps for France so can’t be two shoddy? For £1.5 rumoured for a loan you can’t go wrong. I’m sure if Henry goes the other way that’s had an influence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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