pete0 Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 17 hours ago, Palfy said: We need an Aguero. He was the final piece. We're still building, need to find our Kompany and Silva first, plus a Barry and Milner type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 I agree Ste. Sell niasse and Tosun and get a goal machine. Then we have 2 different strikers to choose depending on tactics and who is fit. Gives us more options. Sir McGiven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Selling Tosun is going to be a problem with that cost tho, especially if signing of a "goal machine" depending on that sale, lol. Moshiri must push the boat out, no matter what. On 08/05/2019 at 14:25, markjazzbassist said: Sell niasse and Tosun and get a goal machine. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-hero-duncan-ferguson-hints-16358183 pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-hero-duncan-ferguson-hints-16358183 I hope he's chatting through his arsehole tbh. I like Dom, I really do, but we should be doing all we can to get someone better before we think about him being our number one striker. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Probably just trying to boost his confidence, I'm sure Duncan is working on him and I think he will improve. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bill said: Probably just trying to boost his confidence, I'm sure Duncan is working on him and I think he will improve. If he ever reaches the levels Dunc did we'll have a very slightly above average striker on our hands, personally I'd prefer better; can DC-L be the man? Very much doubt it but would be ecstatic to be proved wrong. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 I understand the sentiment behind the words DCL worked his nuts off last season and deserves the praise, but I think it would be foolish if we don’t buy a proven goal scorer this summer it would be to bigger gamble to go into next season with DCL as our number one striker, for me he’s not at the level we require at the moment not to say he won’t get there in the future. Romey 1878 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Totally agree. He needs a proven forward to play understudy to and learn his trade more. You cant go into a season with a 21 year old as your main striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Shukes said: Totally agree. He needs a proven forward to play understudy to and learn his trade more. You cant go into a season with a 21 year old as your main striker. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Matt said: Why not? Oh it’s not that I don’t trust him or have faith, I do. But I can see the sense in having an experienced main striker that DCL can learn from for another twelve months. But would I be disappointed if we didn’t buy another striker? Not really as I think we in more need elsewhere. I like him Matt, I really do. Think I’m more talking myself into appeasing others to be honest. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 DCL could be the surprise of the season next year. He’s got everything in his locker just needs to compose himself in front of goal. I think Marco has brought him on a bunch. That’s what a good manager is paid for Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Oh it’s not that I don’t trust him or have faith, I do. But I can see the sense in having an experienced main striker that DCL can learn from for another twelve months. But would I be disappointed if we didn’t buy another striker? Not really as I think we in more need elsewhere. I like him Matt, I really do. Think I’m more talking myself into appeasing others to be honest. Same here, except I don’t expect it to be a 12 month tutelage, it’d be sending him on his way. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Finn balor said: DCL could be the surprise of the season next year. He’s got everything in his locker just needs to compose himself in front of goal. I think Marco has brought him on a bunch. That’s what a good manager is paid for Marco was very late to the party when it comes to DCL. He tried Tosun and Richarlison over him before reluctantly accepting DCL is the best choice for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Shukes said: Totally agree. He needs a proven forward to play understudy to and learn his trade more. You cant go into a season with a 21 year old as your main striker. isn'tt Richarlison 21? markjazzbassist and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Shukes said: Oh it’s not that I don’t trust him or have faith, I do. But I can see the sense in having an experienced main striker that DCL can learn from for another twelve months. But would I be disappointed if we didn’t buy another striker? Not really as I think we in more need elsewhere. I like him Matt, I really do. Think I’m more talking myself into appeasing others to be honest. Shovel and digging comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Shukes said: Totally agree. He needs a proven forward to play understudy to and learn his trade more. You cant go into a season with a 21 year old as your main striker. 11 hours ago, Matt said: Why not? Of course you can have 21 year-old as your main striker but the ones that can and have been good at it are very far and between, and for me DCL isn'tt in the league of say Rooney, Owen, Fowler or Kane to name a few. He's not ready to take that responsibility at the moment even though he's given his all and would continue to do so, I fear that his lack of goals or attempts on target could destroy his confidence in his own ability if they didn't improve next season, so let that side of his game improve whether it's on the training ground, U23s or out on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Palfy said: Shovel and digging comes to mind Didn’t get that at all haha! Did feel something gently blow straight over my head though. It’s early here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: isn'ttt Richarlison 21? Yes that’s true. I don’t think it comes with the same responsibility though. DCL did excellent when he came in towards the end of the season and I expect him to kick on this year. He has everything a top forward needs, and the goals will come. But can he hit the ground running next season and help us challenge the top? I think we need that extra experience up there to help him achieve it. I can see him being here a very long time, and so t want his confidence kicked like we have done with so many other young lads. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, Shukes said: Yes that’s true. I don’t think it comes with the same responsibility though. DCL did excellent when he came in towards the end of the season and I expect him to kick on this year. He has everything a top forward needs, and the goals will come. But can he hit the ground running next season and help us challenge the top? I think we need that extra experience up there to help him achieve it. I can see him being here a very long time, and so t want his confidence kicked like we have done with so many other young lads. I’ve told you before about talking sense it doesn’t suit you good points mate. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Palfy said: I’ve told you before about talking sense it doesn’t suit you good points mate. Gotta get something right every once in a while haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Palfy said: Of course you can have 21 year-old as your main striker but the ones that can and have been good at it are very far and between, and for me DCL isn'ttt in the league of say Rooney, Owen, Fowler or Kane to name a few. He's not ready to take that responsibility at the moment even though he's given his all and would continue to do so, I fear that his lack of goals or attempts on target could destroy his confidence in his own ability if they didn't improve next season, so let that side of his game improve whether it's on the training ground, U23s or out on loan. All I know is that our up turn in form coincided with him starting up top. The 4 named were predominantly strikers, DCL is more a forward and with the style we play is a very good option Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Matt said: All I know is that our up turn in form coincided with him starting up top. The 4 named were predominantly strikers, DCL is more a forward and with the style we play is a very good option Yes I do t think confidence is any issue at the moment. Listening to him in interviews, he sounds very happy with his progress. People tall about his goals etc, yet he has a very good goals to minutes ratio doesn’t he? Not sure what, but it’s mentioned in that article. Its a mid table philosophy that you need a striker up top scoring the goals. Top teams these days go for a different approach and we should be vying for the same. I’m happy if other players are scoring due to DCL applying himself as he has done. A goal for Richarlison, Siggy, Digne, or DCL, is a goal for Everton. Matt, Btay and London Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 I really thought he deserved a call up for the full England squad. However if he rips it up for the 21s that will give him a big boost. I honestly think someone like spurs would be interested in him the way he plays as back up for Kane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 On 01/06/2019 at 22:31, Shukes said: Yes I do t think confidence is any issue at the moment. Listening to him in interviews, he sounds very happy with his progress. People tall about his goals etc, yet he has a very good goals to minutes ratio doesn’t he? Not sure what, but it’s mentioned in that article. Its a mid table philosophy that you need a striker up top scoring the goals. Top teams these days go for a different approach and we should be vying for the same. I’m happy if other players are scoring due to DCL applying himself as he has done. A goal for Richarlison, Siggy, Digne, or DCL, is a goal for Everton. 8 goals from 38 in all comps @ 247 mins per goal. Hes improving every year and this next season if he should be aiming for about 200 per goal. 22 years old after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, Btay said: 8 goals from 38 in all comps @ 247 mins per goal. Hes improving every year and this next season if he should be aiming for about 200 per goal. 22 years old after all. His overall contribution is very admirable when you consider his 5 assists too. Goal or an assist every 161 mins. (1769/(6+5)) If he leads the line next year we could expect 11 goals and 10 assists, and I'd be happy with that. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to get more with Bernard now being more accustomed to the league. Add a better CM who can pick a pass and a RB who can cross and he'll be golden. Btay and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: His overall contribution is very admirable when you consider his 5 assists too. Goal or an assist every 161 mins. (1769/(6+5)) If he leads the line next year we could expect 11 goals and 10 assists, and I'd be happy with that. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to get more with Bernard now being more accustomed to the league. Add a better CM who can pick a pass and a RB who can cross and he'll be golden. Exactly, just keep progressing and achieving targets set. I really want him to get double figures for goals next season. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Starting for England U21s tonight on SS Football. Looks like our best player and well above this level, although the team aren't getting him on the ball much. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Btay Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just looked at his stats on fantasy football. last year - 6 goals 5 assists in 1769 mins ( 160mins per goal affected ) year before - 4 goals 8 assists in 1871 mins ( 155mins per goal affected ) Based on that being quite consistent ( despite him having inconsistent runs in the team ) over the course of a full season (3600mins - granted he won’t play every minute) he’s looking at a tally of about 21 goals scored/assisted. Believing this could be his big year. pete0, StevO, nutmegwolf203 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Personally I dont see anything from him that suggests he will score enough goals to warrant him starting every game this season. He has many other virtues but he has to score more to stay in the team for the long term. Palfy and barryj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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