badaids Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, hafnia said: One of the best things he's got going for him is attitude. Proper Everton striker in the making - the attributes are there to be a classic number 9. Fearless, good in the air, hard working, a goal will do him good and I'm having a fiver on him scoring today.. He is good in the air and getting to the ball, but not good enough at directing his headers. I've noticed he's managed to miss a fair few aerial chances in his games. Paddock and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 He’s not a natural finisher. He’s a decent player but if he was going to be class he would have been showing signs of it by now. He’ll be a decent lower prem to top championship striker imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I'd sacrifice every single one of those attributes for him to be more clinical. That will hopefully come with age. Now there's a loaded post eh. I wouldn't.... it's a bit tiring watching a striker give the ball away all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, hafnia said: Now there's a loaded post eh. I wouldn't.... it's a bit tiring watching a striker give the ball away all the time. Not loaded in the slightest. I just want my strikers to score goals first and foremost, the rest is secondary. It might be tiring watching them give the ball away, but it's fucking shit watching them miss chances to score. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Shukes said: Four goals so far this season and two assists is a good return for him. one of my favourite players at the moment and one that I genuinely am happy to see on the team sheet. Proper team player. Once he gets off the mark in the premier I can see him kicking in. T Hennry couldn’t hit a barn door in his early days. Finishing is something that can be taught. First touch and technicality is something a player needs to be born with, but finishing can be taught and is something that as fans, we have witnessed through our entire lives. Agreed.... Mr Kane doesn't seem to be doing too bad for someone who couldn't hit a bulls arse with a banjo 4 years ago... Fortunately I think DCL has a similar attitude to Kane. Like Kane he has a solid all round game as a foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Impact sub at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Not good enough for this league is the reality championship at best Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 It’s absolutely criminal that we’ve left it so that he is our main striker. I feel for him, he’s giving his all but it’s just not good enough and he shouldn’t be under the sort of pressure we’ve placed him under. Steve_E, StevO, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Palfy said: Not good enough for this league is the reality championship at best This. The lad can't finish. A striker who can't finish is pointless. Paddock and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It’s absolutely criminal that we’ve left it so that he is our main striker. I feel for him, he’s giving his all but it’s just not good enough and he shouldn’t be under the sort of pressure we’ve placed him under. Exactly. He’s not good enough but it’s not his fault. He should be getting cameos when we’re winning to get him used to this level. Instead he’s exected to be our main striker. Way out of his depth through no fault of his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 He needs to go on loan and put of the spotlight. There's a player there but not showing it on the pitch Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Will be a great striker, but placed under this much pressure in a struggling team is no good for him or us. We must bring in two strikers in January and let DCL go on loan to aid his development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I just don't think we are creating the clear cut opportunities that most strikers thrive on. If he was missing sitters, I'd be pissed. But we aren't creating sitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Massive weight of expectation thrown on the lads shoulders due to managerial ineptitude He's got the makings of a decent striker I do think he will cut it at this level given time but he and more importantly we should have been in a position were he was loaned out to the Championship for a full season or two Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Matt said: He needs to go on loan and put of the spotlight. There's a player there but not showing it on the pitch This. I might be too harsh on him, but he should go to a quality Championship side that creates a bunch of chances to get experience working on his finishing and get confident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 45 minutes ago, Newty82 said: I just don't think we are creating the clear cut opportunities that most strikers thrive on. If he was missing sitters, I'd be pissed. But we aren't creating sitters. Exactly this. I think he did amazingly with what he had served to him today. His close control is superb. If he starts missing chances then yep questions should be answered but we aren't giving him or anyone else enough opportunities to stick the ball in the back of the net in the first place. I hate to think how shit we would have been without him today. I also bet most of you were screaming for him to come on on weds when it was just Rooney up top as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 47 minutes ago, Newty82 said: I just don't think we are creating the clear cut opportunities that most strikers thrive on. If he was missing sitters, I'd be pissed. But we aren't creating sitters. On the same page here. He is being slated for how poor his finishing is. But I am missing these easy chances he is missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 I know we bought him for peanuts so I don't mind him not being a prolific striker at prem level but he is the one getting all the chances. I would have thought Sandro deserved an equal run in the team. How do we expect any player to get used to the prem if they don't get game time regularly in their chosen position. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, memmaclub2 said: I know we bought him for peanuts so I don't mind him not being a prolific striker at prem level but he is the one getting all the chances. I would have thought Sandro deserved an equal run in the team. How do we expect any player to get used to the prem if they don't get game time regularly in their chosen position. Spot on, Sandro was bought for peanuts as well and can’t get a game while rooney stinks the place up week in and out. Sandro has goals in him, play the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Rooney 756 mins 4 goals DCL 701 mins 0 goals Sandro 215 mins 0 goals Niasse 197 mins 3 goals. On pure stats we should be starting Niasse, but in truth he's better from the bench against tired legs. It's hard to argue Rooney should be dropped for a striker who hasn't scored a goal. Rest of the team 0 goals. Has any other team gone 10 games without a goal from midfield/defence? Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shukes Posted October 30, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Bloody hell is that how bad it is. Players need to look at themselves, not just the manager. markjazzbassist, Quinn31, Sibdane and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 DCL getting called in to face Brazil? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/09/gareth-southgate-bold-decisions-england-germany?CMP=share_btn_tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Deserves recognition for his performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Overlooked for England seniors in favour of Solanke. To be fair Solanke started and scored for U21s Friday but how often has he played for Liverpool this season? Interesting that Southgate is willing to give senior chances to Chelsea academy graduates (Abraham was poor v Germany by the way) while overlooking the likes of DCL and Gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, nogs said: Overlooked for England seniors in favour of Solanke. To be fair Solanke started and scored for U21s Friday but how often has he played for Liverpool this season? Interesting that Southgate is willing to give senior chances to Chelsea academy graduates (Abraham was poor v Germany by the way) while overlooking the likes of DCL and Gray. Southgate is a hypocrite.... won' play Wilshire cos he isn't playing for arsenal but would call up drinkwater..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, hafnia said: Southgate is a hypocrite.... won' play Wilshire cos he isn't playing for arsenal but would call up drinkwater..... Thats a good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Don’t mind DCL being overlooked this time. He probably isn’t quite ready and we dont want it to harm his club performances. Another few months and a few goals will see if he is ready to make that next step. Matt, Romey 1878 and Cornish Steve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 I don't really get it with DCL. Works hard has pace but goal return at prem level is poor. I know he is young but so was lukaku Owen Rooney fowler etc. I think the he's young give him time shouldn't always allow him game time. Sandro scored enough goals last season to be given time to gel and work a system he can play in. Biases comes in and scores enough to keep his place. I think Sandro hasn't been given enough time he isn't suddenly shite. Also his true value was more 15million if we spent that money would he get more time. Its interesting how gylfi got time with bad performances but Sandro didn't. A striker needs a good run to get up to speed Lowensda and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Jury’s still out for DCL. But if he was missing sitters then I would agree. But he isn’t been, we haven’t been creating and it’s hatd to judge a player until he gets those chances. The goals he has scored have been composed finishes as well. will be interesting to see how he does win a confident team around him. I agree Sandro needs more time and to have chances on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 14/11/2017 at 10:48, memmaclub2 said: I don't really get it with DCL. Works hard has pace but goal return at prem level is poor. I know he is young but so was lukaku Owen Rooney fowler etc. I think the he's young give him time shouldn't always allow him game time. Sandro scored enough goals last season to be given time to gel and work a system he can play in. Biases comes in and scores enough to keep his place. I think Sandro hasn't been given enough time he isn't suddenly shite. Also his true value was more 15million if we spent that money would he get more time. Its interesting how gylfi got time with bad performances but Sandro didn't. A striker needs a good run to get up to speed DCL is playing in a very poor team... I don't think many strikers would prosper in it as it has stood. The ingredients are there for a very good player indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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