Palfy Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MikeO said: "Of course, if PSG aren't willing to meet the asking price then no problem, as everyone would be thrilled to see the tackling tornado....stay and be part of an improving, hungry squad." Not quite "everyone" Good article though, sums up the dilemma well.  They might be happy for him to stay it doesn’t mean he will be, he said he would work harder in an effort to get his move and for teams to look to take him to the next level, if people think if we keep refusing his move he’s going to carry on in the same vein then there living in cloud cuckoo land, the guy has got his head down and worked harder and some say played better since the January window for one reason he wants out plain and simple. Let’s take the money wish him well and move on, if we stand in his way this transfer window I don’t think we will see the same response from him as last time and I personally wouldn’t blame him, and if I was a manager I wouldn’t want to have to keep spending my time trying to convince players who didn’t want to be here to stay, I’d rather want to be investing my time with players who wanted to be here. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Or it may be is just very professional and doesn’t let rumours etc influence him. Sad world where a player comes out like he has.... and people still try to turn it into a negative. duncanmckenzieismagic, markjazzbassist, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, Shukes said: Or it may be is just very professional and doesn’t let rumours etc influence him. Sad world where a player comes out like he has.... and people still try to turn it into a negative. How’s that turning it into a negative, surly he will find it more negative if we keep standing in his way, if the club doesn’t want to let him go because he’s so vital in there opinion, then cut all the crap out by making a statement saying he is not for sale and we are going to make him honour the remainder of his contract. And they weren’t rumours they were tabled bids and he wants to leave, no I don’t rate him as much as you do, but any player who is publicly pushing to leave with their words and actions I would let go, because sooner or later he is going to rebel if we stop him realising his dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Palfy said: How’s that turning it into a negative, surly he will find it more negative if we keep standing in his way, if the club doesn’t want to let him go because he’s so vital in there opinion, then cut all the crap out by making a statement saying he is not for sale and we are going to make him honour the remainder of his contract. And they weren’t rumours they were tabled bids and he wants to leave, no I don’t rate him as much as you do, but any player who is publicly pushing to leave with their words and actions I would let go, because sooner or later he is going to rebel if we stop him realising his dream. It is turning it into a negative, your probably the one person that exists who can’t see that. And he is doing exactly the opposite to what you are saying, that’s a fact... not opinion, cold hard fact. Though you’ll still argue otherwise haha Lets look at it. He was recently asked about it at the AFCON. His answer was that he wasn’t going to comment on any rumours and just wanted to concentrate on the tournament.... I mean what an asshole eh! Before that, PSG made public many offers for him. It was turned down. He was asked about it. He answered honestly by saying it would have been a dream move for him, but it was turned down so wasn’t to be. He then went on by saying all he can do, is play for his current club, put the effort in and try even harder. He did this.... again... what an asshole haha! Now if you can’t see how your turning that into a negative... then frankly your lying to yourself, and that’s commonly know as.... your only cheating yourself Now if he comes out and publicly says that he wants to leave us, puts in a transfer request and does countless interviews about how he wants to play for a bigger club... then I’ll join your little group mate. Until then, I’ll have respect for a player that has earnt it, regardless of ability level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: Tyrone mings went to villa for £26 million. Just seems to me we sell to low You must take resale value into account. Gana is gonna worth 10m at most in two seasons, because of his advanced age. Mings is 3 and a half years younger and is not a bad player at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 46 minutes ago, Shukes said: He answered honestly by saying it would have been a dream move for him, but it was turned down so wasn’t to be. He then went on by saying all he can do, is play for his current club, put the effort in and try Evertonen harder.  You haven’t repeated exactly what he said you’ve given the Shukes version, shocking behaviour I suggest you revisit what he said and why he said it. You’d make an excellent presenter for Jackanory and we all thought Walt Disney was dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 PSG are not bothered about re-sale value. They want players to win the champions league. Some would argue that gana has two or three years at the peak of his game and that’s what they are buying him for. Mings has had two bad injuries and played probably forty matches in the premier league. They’ve paid that money off a season in the championship. He’s not bad granted but he sure isn’t worth £26 million.  If he is worth £26 million then gana in my eyes is worth more than €35 million.So we sell our arguably most consistent player over the last two seasons do we then pay £26 million for a replacement who has had a decent season in the championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, Finn balor said: PSG are not bothered about re-sale value. They want players to win the champions league. Some would argue that gana has two or three years at the peak of his game and that’s what they are buying him for. Mings has had two bad injuries and played probably forty matches in the premier league. They’ve paid that money off a season in the championship. He’s not bad granted but he sure isn’t worth £26 million.  If he is worth £26 million then gana in my eyes is worth more than €35 million.So we sell our arguably most consistent player over the last two seasons do we then pay £26 million for a replacement who has had a decent season in the championship? Thing is we will only sell Gana if he wants to go we wouldn’t even be discussing this if he wanted to stay, and PSG wouldn’t be pursuing him if he had said he wanted to stay. There comes a point in time where it’s not about the value it’s about what’s best for the club, and I fail to see how keeping any player who doesn’t want to be here a plus regardless of who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, Palfy said: You haven’t repeated exactly what he said you’ve given the Shukes version, shocking behaviour I suggest you revisit what he said and why he said it. You’d make an excellent presenter for Jackanory and we all thought Walt Disney was dead I didn’t go exactly no, but I was a lot closer than you wasn’t I But what did you think of his comments at AFCON? Good? Bad? Or didn’t see them, so it never happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Villa paying £15 for a Man City reserve and we are selling gana for £26 mill. Don’t get me wrong I’m ok with him going but not for less than £40 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 £30 million with £10 mill of add ons apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Finn balor said: £30 million with £10 mill of add ons apparently Sounds decent to me. If it’s pounds, though, we’d better get a move on. That exchange rate is going the wrong way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Idrissa Gana Gueye will be finalizing his transfer to PSG in the coming hours. Agreement at €33M (not including bonuses) with Everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Idrissa Gana Gueye will be finalizing his transfer to PSG in the coming hours. Agreement at €33M (not including bonuses) with Everton Still nothing official then. I'll believe it when I see it from a source that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, MikeO said: Still nothing official then. I'll believe it when I see it from a source that is. I think it’s definitely happening even if this isn’t official, for me the silence of the club with so many rumours saying it’s going to happen says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Seems really low to me. Unless we get a signing back that we don’t know about that’s a shit amount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Palfy said: I think it’s definitely happening even if this isn’t official, for me the silence of the club with so many rumours saying it’s going to happen says it all really. They very rarely comment on rumours, ins or outs. I think it’ll happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 I can’t see how £25 million for your most consistent player is good business MikeO, Romey 1878, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, StevO said: They very rarely comment on rumours, ins or outs. Possibly very true but they were quite vocal in saying he couldn’t go in last Jans window, could be they are possibly resigned to the fact he is going this time, just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Finn balor said: I can’t see how £25 million for your most consistent player is good business His age is the biggest factor along with the fact he wishes to leave and the club have respected this. I suppose it was a choice of either £30m~ or having a player under contract for the next 2 seasons who isn't happy and doesn't want to be here with a rapidly decreasing value to sell. Kick in the teeth, but hopefully Brands and Silva can find a replacement with different qualities to help push on. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 First it was Lukaku, then it was Gana. Who's going to be the next whipping boy? Could TT survive without one? Could we make it through the day without having someone to moan about? Newty82 and plaidharper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: First it was Lukaku, then it was Gana. Who's going to be the next whipping boy? Could TT survive without one? Could we make it through the day without having someone to moan about? I said I thought it'd be Pickford in another thread. Newty82 and Zoo 2.0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Delph probably Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 The moose on talksport reckons gana will have his medical by the end of the week. €32 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sibdane Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Â Quote The negotiations are progressing very well, Everton still blocks Gueye's departure. The English club would like to find a replacement before. At the financial level, the two parties are very close. Nothing done yet. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 "The negotiations are progressing very well, Everton still blocks Gueye's departure..." That makes a heap of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Sad to see him go. We ended the season on a good defensive run. Now with Gana and Zouma gone it is back to the drawing board. Even if we get replacements they will need time to gel.... Guess there is always a slight chance the P's were right. Would rather them be right then get dragged back into the bottom half of the table... I need a beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, MikeO said: "The negotiations are progressing very well, Everton still blocks Gueye's departure..." That makes a heap of sense To be fair, it's being translated. The following sentence offers an explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Sky reckon deal is done £28 mill. Surely marcel knew he was going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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