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2 hours ago, Palfy said:

Well we didn't miss him yesterday our best result of the season.

And only 6 successful tackles all game. Who knew you could win a game of football without diving in every chance you get. 

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Have a day off lads... we conceded when he wasn't on the pitch and actually scored when he was on the pitch. 

Play a side like Burnley and they will lose the ball voluntarily.  Play a side like spurs or city without him and..... yeah We've already got those stats ain't we. 

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22 minutes ago, pete0 said:

And only 6 successful tackles all game. Who knew you could win a game of football without diving in every chance you get. 

Probably because Burnley don’t keep Possesion that long 

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1 minute ago, hafnia said:

Have a day off lads... we conceded when he wasn't on the pitch and actually scored when he was on the pitch. 

Play a side like Burnley and they will lose the ball voluntarily.  Play a side like spurs or city without him and..... yeah We've already got those stats ain't we. 

Cake and fucking eat it, how many times Burnley lost 5-1 at home this season, your problem a good win without Gana is worthless and a bad loss without Gana is everything.

Let's change the name of the team to Ganaton and that should really make you a happy chappy.

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36 minutes ago, pete0 said:

And only 6 successful tackles all game. Who knew you could win a game of football without diving in every chance you get. 

You know your wrong PeteO you can't win a game without a recognised tackler in the team, even though Spurs did it to us and we just done it to Burnley, welcome to the Twilight Zone what we've witnessed isn'tt reality, the only thing he can do isn'tt needed off to PSG Gana and don't pass go you've already taken enough off us.

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we will see what marco's perferred system is in regards to CM if the rumors are true.  If he does favor the single pivot (doucoure) he used at Watford, we could see gana sold and Gomes used there for the time being.  I'm interested to see what Marco and Brands come up with.

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Just now, Palfy said:

If you laugh at that mate you are laughing at every player who went out yesterday and won that game, your insulting the team and the by belittling it.

i'm laughing because Haf has a sense of humor that i like.  instead of just saying "they don't care about possesion" he says what he said.  just like with lukaku instead of stating "he has a terrible first touch" he calls him trampoline shins.  his analogies are also gold, he's funny palfy, calm down, i'm just enjoying life over here

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15 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Cake and fucking eat it, how many times Burnley lost 5-1 at home this season, your problem a good win without Gana is worthless and a bad loss without Gana is everything.

Let's change the name of the team to Ganaton and that should really make you a happy chappy.

You are obsessed with gana and the amount of shit you and Pete have collectively thrown just makes this thread a complete joke.

Many if not all people on here accept he's not creative although he can pass better than you give him credit for his passing stats indicate a player who retains the ball. 

Most if not all accept that there will be some games where he could be rested. Burnley is deffo one of those sides. 

You said Gana only looks good against shite sides, his arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool performances discredit that. 

You would sooner have schneiderlein ahead of him.... that says it all. 

 

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1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said:

i'm laughing because Haf has a sense of humor that i like.  instead of just saying "they don't care about possesion" he says what he said.  just like with lukaku instead of stating "he has a terrible first touch" he calls him trampoline shins.  his analogies are also gold, he's funny palfy, calm down, i'm just enjoying life over here

He said that as beating Burnley is no big deal basically fuck off Palfy saying it was a good win it's only Burnley.

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5 minutes ago, Palfy said:

If you laugh at that mate you are laughing at every player who went out yesterday and won that game, your insulting the team and the by belittling it.

Yeah none of us were laughing conceding 9 goals in 2 games without him though were we? 

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Just now, Palfy said:

He said that as beating Burnley is no big deal basically fuck off Palfy saying it was a good win it's only Burnley.

Whats with being so pious Palf... you bought gana and Burnley up so deal with it.  

A side leaking goals got stuffed by us.  If you can't handle people enjoying my retort which affirmed the fact that Burnley surrender possession by lumping it forward then don't post. 

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1 minute ago, hafnia said:

Yeah none of us were laughing conceding 9 goals in 2 games without him though were we? 

No we weren't and not everyone was saying because we had no Gana that we lost, but belittling the teams win without him because it's only Burnley is fucking shite mate.

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16 minutes ago, Palfy said:

No we weren't and not everyone was saying because we had no Gana that we lost, but belittling the teams win without him because it's only Burnley is fucking shite mate.

Belittling the team? No.... just clearly stating the fact that Burnley will readily concede possession.  Lowest possession stats and lowest passes.  Hit it long and hope for the best.

 

 

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Brilliant player and I don't know how people can knock him or his ability but each to their own

At 29 he still has a few good seasons in him but If we could line the likes of Decourè up who is four years younger and a more rounded box to box type I wouldn't be devastated if he left 

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9 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Belittling the team? No.... just clearly stating the fact that Burnley will readily concede possession.  Lowest possession stats and lowest passes.  Hit it long and hope for the best.

 

 

Well if that's what you meant by it then I apologise for misinterpreting what you meant by what you said.

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36 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Belittling the team? No.... just clearly stating the fact that Burnley will readily concede possession.  Lowest possession stats and lowest passes.  Hit it long and hope for the best.

 

 

49% possession with 401 passes on the game to our 416. Hardly what I'd call conceding possession. 

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Just to point out guys.... err he was involved in this match. Part of the squad and came on and played.

And he showed he can do more than just tackle... proved it in fact!

He inspired us from the bench... that takes a special player!

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26 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Just to point out guys.... err he was involved in this match. Part of the squad and came on and played.

And he showed he can do more than just tackle... proved it in fact!

He inspired us from the bench... that takes a special player!

And he dived for yellow card 5 touches and a warning couldn't have done it without him, where would we be if he wasn't sat on the bench we would have definitely lost 3-0 is that about right guys, if it's more please let me know I'd hate to undermine is worth and the fact we can't do anything with him bar lose.

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2 hours ago, EFC-Paul said:

Brilliant player and I don't know how people can knock him or his ability but each to their own

At 29 he still has a few good seasons in him but If we could line the likes of Decourè up who is four years younger and a more rounded box to box type I wouldn't be devastated if he left 

If we could line Johnny Vegas up I'd be ecstatic😉

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7 hours ago, Palfy said:

Well we didn't miss him yesterday our best result of the season.

 

4 hours ago, Palfy said:

Cake and fucking eat it, how many times Burnley lost 5-1 at home this season, your problem a good win without Gana is worthless and a bad loss without Gana is everything.

Let's change the name of the team to Ganaton and that should really make you a happy chappy.

The irony of these two posts within a few hours of each other.

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3 minutes ago, nyblue23 said:

 

The irony of these two posts within a few hours of each other.

Well I wasn’t trying to be ironic and I can’t see the irony in them your have to enlighten me?

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2 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Well I wasn’t trying to be ironic and I can’t see the irony in them your have to enlighten me?

You’re accusing haf of being so narrow-minded about a player’s ability that he can’t recognize when his absence might have been beneficial, and yet in the very post that haf responded to in the first place, you suggested that we won in part due to his absence, despite having been thrashed in the last two matches without him. In essence, you’re doing exactly what you say haf is doing, just reversing the terms. A bad loss without Gana means nothing but a good win without Gana means everything.

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

And he dived for yellow card 5 touches and a warning couldn't have done it without him, where would we be if he wasn't sat on the bench we would have definitely lost 3-0 is that about right guys, if it's more please let me know I'd hate to undermine is worth and the fact we can't do anything with him bar lose.

Just stating facts. He was involved and we broke a two game losing streak where we have conceded like there’s no tomorrow.

Obviously his influence made a difference. Did you see him shouting orders from the bench, the mans a legend.

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4 minutes ago, nyblue23 said:

You’re accusing haf of being so narrow-minded about a player’s ability that he can’t recognize when his absence might have been beneficial, and yet in the very post that haf responded to in the first place, you suggested that we won in part due to his absence, despite having been thrashed in the last two matches without him. In essence, you’re doing exactly what you say haf is doing, just reversing the terms. A bad loss without Gana means nothing but a good win without Gana means everything.

My first post was in reference to subject of selling Gana, and I meant if one was concerned at his loss then don’t worry we didn’t miss him yesterday, not that we won in part because he wasn’t there yesterday. 

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6 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Just stating facts. He was involved and we broke a two game losing streak where we have conceded like there’s no tomorrow.

Obviously his influence made a difference. Did you see him shouting orders from the bench, the mans a legend.

A legend ? the weirdness just got a whole lot weirder. 

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7 minutes ago, Aidan said:

So...what did everyone have for their tea tonight then? 🙄

Well I had a couple of portions of irony which I found very enjoyable if not a little ironic🍴

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I'll almost be glad to see him gone for my sanity.  

£30m+ for the worst player to wear an Everton shirt at the age of 29.....

 

Mustn't be that bad.  Maybe PSG just want him to win the ball and give it to Neymar and Mbappe to use their onball talents? That's a good idea.... then again some PSG fans may moan and ask why Gana can't beat 3 men like Neymar or finish like Mbappe.... the fact that he can just win it and pass to them is irrelevant.  

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16 hours ago, Palfy said:

My first post was in reference to subject of selling Gana, and I meant if one was concerned at his loss then don’t worry we didn’t miss him yesterday, not that we won in part because he wasn’t there yesterday. 

That still has the implication of saying we were just as well off. Didn’t miss = easy to win without.

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11 minutes ago, Shukes said:

As far as predictions go.... PeteO and Palfy should predict us not to finish top four.

Well have a chance then 😉

Mate all good things come to end sooner or later, if me predicting not to finish in the top 4 gets us there I'd be doing a jig😁

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7 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Interesting...

"Since the beginning of last (2017-18) season, Everton have played without Gana on 20 occasions. They’ve won just five of those games, with the wins coming against luminaries Rotherham, Sunderland, Lincoln City, Apollon Limassol, and Brighton. The Blues’ overall record when Gueye doesn’t play in the last two years is 5 wins, 11 losses, and 4 draws. If it wasn’t clear before, the numbers don’t lie - Idrissa Gueye makes Everton tick."

Can’t be true, with all that tackling and intercepting he does whilst being out of position....

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4 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

love brands.  sure you can have gana, at 45m euros.  pay over the odds or fuck off. 

That’s not over the odds, that’s still cheap. 

(Incoming neg from Pete and Co. in 5...4...)

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27 minutes ago, Matt said:

That’s not over the odds, that’s still cheap. 

(Incoming neg from Pete and Co. in 5...4...)

i love gana, really do, one of my favorites but that's over the odds matt.  he's 29, players in his position drop off soon after 30, he relies on his high energy levels, speed and stamina.  all things that decline with age.  i love the man but he is no gareth barry (who played older because he was all about position and was always slow)

 

honestly at his age i'd say 30m would be a coup, i think he's worth probably 20-25 due to age.  45m is fuck off money, hence brands putting the price there.  30m id still be happy, anything less than that and i'd be mad we lost him.

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20 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

i love gana, really do, one of my favorites but that's over the odds matt.  he's 29, players in his position drop off soon after 30, he relies on his high energy levels, speed and stamina.  all things that decline with age.

I remember some pundit or other saying "miles on the clock" was the reason for Wayne Rooney's relatively young decline and the fact that he'd started at the top level at sixteen and played something like 750 top flight/international games; Gana didn't play top flight in France until he was 20/21 and has roughly half the number of appearances. Shows absolutely no sign of slowing down to me, I'd be asking for €50m.

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53 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Interesting...

"Since the beginning of last (2017-18) season, Everton have played without Gana on 20 occasions. They’ve won just five of those games, with the wins coming against luminaries Rotherham, Sunderland, Lincoln City, Apollon Limassol, and Brighton. The Blues’ overall record when Gueye doesn’t play in the last two years is 5 wins, 11 losses, and 4 draws. If it wasn’t clear before, the numbers don’t lie - Idrissa Gueye makes Everton tick."

What are the 11 games he's missed. As this season he's only missed 3 of which we lost 2; spurs and city. 

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4 minutes ago, pete0 said:

What are the 11 games he's missed. As this season he's only missed 3 of which we lost 2; spurs and city. 

Was just quoting from the article, if you think he's got his facts wrong (as well as his opinion that "almost nobody in world football is as good as Gana is at what he does defensively") you'd need to take it up with him:).

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27 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

i love gana, really do, one of my favorites but that's over the odds matt.  he's 29, players in his position drop off soon after 30, he relies on his high energy levels, speed and stamina.  all things that decline with age.  i love the man but he is no gareth barry (who played older because he was all about position and was always slow)

 

honestly at his age i'd say 30m would be a coup, i think he's worth probably 20-25 due to age.  45m is fuck off money, hence brands putting the price there.  30m id still be happy, anything less than that and i'd be mad we lost him.

I know where you’re coming from, but if they’re selling Cavani for £50m, we should be asking for every penny of it and take advantage of their desperation ;)

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11 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I remember some pundit or other saying "miles on the clock" was the reason for Wayne Rooney's relatively young decline and the fact that he'd started at the top level at sixteen and played something like 750 top flight/international games; Gana didn't play top flight in France until he was 20/21 and has roughly half the number of appearances. Shows absolutely no sign of slowing down to me, I'd be asking for €50m.

Actually looking at the figures Rooney played 800+ games while Gana, even including his early years at Lille B, has just over 400.

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