Newty82 Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Palfy said: Hooray nail on the head. Then it comes down to who is the best equipped for that role, and for me it has to be Schneiderlin he is the more complete player, you can't just be a one trick pony you need a lot of facets to your game to play such a pivotal role. Ideally you'd have a blend of the 2 into ONE player!!! pete0 and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Newty82 said: Ideally you'd have a blend of the 2 into ONE player!!! Really then we need to get rid of both and Marcel needs find the complete player for that position. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Hooray nail on the head. Then it comes down to who is the best equipped for that role, and for me it has to be Schneiderlin he is the more complete player, you can't just be a one trick pony you need a lot of facets to your game to play such a pivotal role. The only complete thing that schneiderlein is is a prick. . He's well and truly blown his chances after a great first season. Shown complete disregard for our club and deserves to get fucked off with williams and the likes of mirallas who don't deserve to wear the shirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, hafnia said: The only complete thing that schneiderlein is is a prick. . He's well and truly blown his chances after a great first season. Shown complete disregard for our club and deserves to get fucked off with williams and the likes of mirallas who don't deserve to wear the shirt Well I don’t think that will be happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 45 minutes ago, Palfy said: Well I don’t think that will be happening Why not? You think our new manager will put up with gobshites who down tools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, hafnia said: Why not? You think our new manager will put up with gobshites who down tools? I haven't got a clue about the manager and what he might do with Schneiderlin to be honest, but knowing he is a good player I would wager he will be a regular in the team next season. Quinn31 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 When it comes to Schneiderlin, some people have short memories. I'm totally with Haf on this one. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: When it comes to Schneiderlin, some people have short memories. I'm totally with Haf on this one. And me, swanned around the pitch during all but the last couple of games, a charleton we don't need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 39 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: And me, swanned around the pitch during all but the last couple of games, a charleton we don't need Yeh nowhere to be found when we needed him and the pressure was on but turned up again when we were safe. I cant see him being moved on but I wouldnt care if he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 If it was a choice betweenness Gana and Schneiderlin.... I would choose Gana every time. He just offers more to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 20 hours ago, Palfy said: I haven't got a clue about the manager and what he might do with Schneiderlin to be honest, but knowing he is a good player I would wager he will be a regular in the team next season. A good player? You mean a player with ability who doesn't give a toss. Invariably in most cases such players get fucked off. Look at what happened to the likes of villa and Sunderland....players capable of much more didn't bother and took them down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, hafnia said: A good player? You mean a player with ability who doesn't give a toss. Invariably in most cases such players get fucked off. Look at what happened to the likes of villa and Sunderland....players capable of much more didn't bother and took them down Well time will tell. Oh yes Villa I remember that season wasn't Gana there then, and he was given the title of the fraud player by a lot of Villa fans, now he's fraudulently taking 75k a week off us. Schneiderlin did fuck up and let his head go down and he shouldn't have it goes without saying every supporter of any club wants to see the players give there all, but that doesn't take away from the fact he is a good player and will more than likely be one of the first names on the team sheet under the new manager. StevO and nyblue23 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Palfy stick to the truth mate. Some fans think he’s a fraud now... but it doesn’t detract from the simple fact that most rate him, and I say most meaning by a big margin. You keep making that comment that Villa fans thought he was a fraud, thinking that time has made us all forget. But to every thread of criticism you find, they are three to counter you. Im sure there is an individual out ther somewhere who did t rate Maradona, but that doesn’t make him shit. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, Shukes said: Palfy stick to the truth mate. Some fans think he’s a fraud now... but it doesn’t detract from the simple fact that most rate him, and I say most meaning by a big margin. You keep making that comment that Villa fans thought he was a fraud, thinking that time has made us all forget. But to every thread of criticism you find, they are three to counter you. Im sure there is an individual out ther somewhere who did t rate Maradona, but that doesn’t make him shit. The majority of Villa fans said he was good at breaking up play, but couldn't pass gave the ball away and offered nothing going forward, where have we constantly seen that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Interestingly I have just looked at a couple of Villa forums and they basically mirror this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Palfy stick to the truth mate. Some fans think he’s a fraud now... but it doesn’t detract from the simple fact that most rate him, and I say most meaning by a big margin. You keep making that comment that Villa fans thought he was a fraud, thinking that time has made us all forget. But to every thread of criticism you find, they are three to counter you. Im sure there is an individual out ther somewhere who did t rate Maradona, but that doesn’t make him shit. Go on Villa talk and see for yourself what the Villa fans thought about him, then get back to me and tell me it's only a few who didn't rate him and your see the truth Shukes. 126 pages 1st forty something on the transfer then about 15-20 page's thinking he's a good player then from 68 on complete turn round constantly slaughtered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 50 minutes ago, Palfy said: 126 pages 1st forty something on the transfer then about 15-20 page's thinking he's a good player then from 68 on complete turn round constantly slaughtered. You're obsessed Palfy mate. 126 pages of a Villa thread read? You need a lie down. I'm worried about you. Matt, Newty82, nyblue23 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 52 minutes ago, MikeO said: You're obsessed Palfy mate. 126 pages of a Villa thread read? You need a lie down. I'm worried about you. A lie down? He needs a life! Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Bailey said: Interestingly I have just looked at a couple of Villa forums and they basically mirror this thread! Exactly. It’s unfair to make out that the majority didn’t want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Palfy said: Go on Villa talk and see for yourself what the Villa fans thought about him, then get back to me and tell me it's only a few who didn't rate him and your see the truth Shukes. 126 pages 1st forty something on the transfer then about 15-20 page's thinking he's a good player then from 68 on complete turn round constantly slaughtered. I’ve bewn on a few Villa sites, I also live in Telford which is in the midlands and have to suffer living around loads of them. And the MAJORITY, supported him right until the moment he moved.... just like we would. Like I said, I’m sure there is a fan out there who didn’t rate Maradona.... and he isnt the majority in his bubble... he’s 100%. My point is that you may have found a niche that supports your argument and are using that to validate you being right..... while ignoring an overwhelming majority that say otherwise. This is like the Lukaku thread on steroids haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 This thread is a fookin joke. Gana is a DM who specialises in hunting the ball and pressing the opposition. I could worry about his passing if his pass completion was 60% like lukakus but it isnt.... it's always one of the highest. Just like his work rate, tackles and interceptions. When he becomes one of the worst 3 players in the team I will worry about him. He's nowhere near that so please feel free to direct yourself to the Keane, Williams, bollassie, schneiderlein, Rooney, threads Aidan, Newty82, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, hafnia said: This thread is a fookin joke. Gana is a DM who specialises in hunting the ball and pressing the opposition. I could worry about his passing if his pass completion was 60% like lukakus but it isnt.... it's always one of the highest. Just like his work rate, tackles and interceptions. When he becomes one of the worst 3 players in the team I will worry about him. He's nowhere near that so please feel free to direct yourself to the Keane, Williams, bollassie, schneiderlein, Rooney, threads Yep, but it's never gonna happen unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 16 hours ago, Bailey said: Interestingly I have just looked at a couple of Villa forums and they basically mirror this thread! What's that then? 2 or 3 blaming him for everything from the Titanic sinking to us missing out on the docks 10 year ago? While most others just think he's a good player who does his role. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Newty82 said: What's that then? 2 or 3 blaming him for everything from the Titanic sinking to us missing out on the docks 10 year ago? While most others just think he's a good player who does his role. Fair enough. He would have missed the boat. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Newty82 said: What's that then? 2 or 3 blaming him for everything from the Titanic sinking to us missing out on the docks 10 year ago? While most others just think he's a good player who does his role. Fair enough. Its more balanced, probably 50/50 or maybe 60/40 in Ganas favour but with exactly the same arguments, almost so much so that you wouldnt be surprised if they had been written by members of this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bailey said: Its more balanced, probably 50/50 or maybe 60/40 in Ganas favour but with exactly the same arguments, almost so much so that you wouldnt be surprised if they had been written by members of this forum. cue the conspiracy theory palfy is a villa fan who just came on here to slate gana StevO and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bailey said: Its more balanced, probably 50/50 or maybe 60/40 in Ganas favour but with exactly the same arguments, almost so much so that you wouldnt be surprised if they had been written by members of this forum. No no no....you're wrong. Palfy has read all 165786 pages by all 47532 posters, and he said the majority don't rate Gana. Good job I trust you Bailey. Your arguments are balanced. I'll take your word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 14 hours ago, MikeO said: You're obsessed Palfy mate. 126 pages of a Villa thread read? You need a lie down. I'm worried about you. I may seem obsessed but he's not good enough for this club I don't except mediocre players playing for this club, he's not the only one but imo he's the worst of a bad bunch until he's gone or relegated to U23s I will voice my opinions on his poor performance then turn my attention to others., I still subscribe to value of being able to pass the ball, read what a majority of Villa fans said of him, looked good to start with but quickly become a waste of time, that is exactly what's happened here. Appliance of science except players of his pedigree then you can't expect to move forward. Sev and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Palfy said: I may seem obsessed but he's not good enough for this club I don't except mediocre players playing for this club, he's not the only one but imo he's the worst of a bad bunch until he's gone or relegated to U23s I will voice my opinions on his poor performance then turn my attention to others., I still subscribe to value of being able to pass the ball, read what a majority of Villa fans said of him, looked good to start with but quickly become a waste of time, that is exactly what's happened here. Appliance of science except players of his pedigree then you can't expect to move forward. The vast majority of our squad isn'ttt good enough for this club. Are they good enough to get us to the stage where we can attract better players who are good enough for the club is the criteria we are at. Sadly for the gana haters - he has a big role to play whilst some players like Williams, schneiderlein, Keane, mirallas, bolassie, cuco, Rooney and maybe funes mori need cutting from the wage bill as they are liabilities or will negatively impact the team with their attitudes. The majority of us who like gana are aware of what he isn'tt good at. We just appreciate that what he is good at is critical for the team. Above all his attitude and ethic is spot on and fits the type of style we want to see from an Everton side. Dynamic and energetic with real workrste and commitnent. Shukes, nyblue23 and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just looked on whoscored.com and compared Gana with the worlds best player Messi. Different roles I know but just for fun. messi 81.3 pass completion Gana 85% But to be fair, he doesn’t score worldies like Messi does, so Messi gets a free pass for being worse than a player that can’t pass to save his life. Messi must be another lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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