Popular Post Aidan Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Martinez was awful come the end. He never learnt from his mistakes, kept going back to his philosophy and the players turned on him. Had he adapted like in the second half of the second season and learnt from it he'd have done well. I'd imagine Martinez would have spent the £200m more wisely. Martinez had a good eye for a player and made us a substantial profit. I struggle to see us getting much back on Koeman/Walsh's picks, especially Schneiderlin, Keane and Sigurdssen. Come the end?!For 2/3 of his career at Everton! Oumar Niasse, Funes Mori, Cleverley, McGeady, Kone and Alcaraz were all Martinez signings! Dont get me wrong he brought in some gems like Rom and Barry and lots more but christ he pruchased some absolute dross. Think you're looking back with rose tinted glasses on the Martinez era, he took us from being a consistent 5/6/7/8th team to a bottom half table team. I dont care if he made us substantial profil I want us to be a European team. nyblue23, markjazzbassist, badaids and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Niasse is our top scorer this season and saved Koeman from losing another game, what has Koeman's signing Sandro achieved not a shot on target I don't think, and personally I'd rather have Mori in the team than Williams, also McCarthy would do a better job than Gana or Schneiderlin. I don't think we have improved probably in decline, we've conceded far too many goals and scored too few already this season. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Aidan Lewis said: Come the end?!For 2/3 of his career at Everton! Oumar Niasse, Funes Mori, Cleverley, McGeady, Kone and Alcaraz were all Martinez signings! Dont get me wrong he brought in some gems like Rom and Barry and lots more but christ he pruchased some absolute dross. Think you're looking back with rose tinted glasses on the Martinez era, he took us from being a consistent 5/6/7/8th team to a bottom half table team. I dont care if he made us substantial profil I want us to be a European team. 1st season he was excellent. Second he turned it around after the new year. Had he not gone back to his philosophy half a chance he'd still be managing us. Mori would probably be of best defender if he was fit. Cleverley was a decent enough squad player. Made a profit on him too. Alcaraz and Kone both had injuries. Only major flop was McGeady, but he was a cheap gamble. Martinez already had one foot out the foot when Niasse signed so I'd imagine someone else from the club was more influential on that one. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 11 hours ago, pete0 said: 1st season he was excellent. Second he turned it around after the new year. Had he not gone back to his philosophy half a chance he'd still be managing us. Mori would probably be of best defender if he was fit. Cleverley was a decent enough squad player. Made a profit on him too. Alcaraz and Kone both had injuries. Only major flop was McGeady, but he was a cheap gamble. Martinez already had one foot out the foot when Niasse signed so I'd imagine someone else from the club was more influential on that one. Mori is barely serviceable and was the ashley Williams of the last two seasons. Cleverly was absolute garbage and given your disposition against the attacking abilities of Gana and Schneiderlin, you should be ashamed of the comparison. Alvarez, accounting for injury, was the worst defender I've seen in 7 years of following Everton. The only one I can grant you is that Kone could've been a decent backup barring injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 3 hours ago, nyblue23 said: Mori is barely serviceable and was the ashley Williams of the last two seasons. Ashley Williams was our best defender last season. Cleverly was absolute garbage and given your disposition against the attacking abilities of Gana and Schneiderlin, you should be ashamed of the comparison. Turned over the ball very well, speeding up the tempo. Rather than always stop and go backwards. For a short spell before picking up an injury he was playing very well. Alvarez, accounting for injury, was the worst defender I've seen in 7 years of following Everton. Don't think you can judge him here, he was never truly fit to play. Poor signing overall but may have worked and only cost us wages. The only one I can grant you is that Kone could've been a decent backup barring injury. Tbh if we got lukaku in earlier I don't we'd have signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted October 27, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 This'll make Pete's day. Matt, plaidharper, markjazzbassist and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, MikeO said: This'll make Pete's day. fantastic news. unsy said in the presser its not signed yet but very very close, spoke of how great a player he is and how great a person he is, saying he's very humble. one of my favorite players for everton of the last 2 years. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Tried to pass the pen back after signing and missed. Overated in my eyes. Any player can chase down like a mad man. Benji will show him the other parts you need to be a midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Unsworth needs sacking! He rates Gana as a very very very good player! Clearly knows nothing about football, eh PeteO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 7 hours ago, MikeO said: This'll make Pete's day. Way to piss on my chips . Don't think Unsworth has a say in contacts 2 days in the job though, it'll be Walsh pushing for it. I'm hoping Unsworth has more nous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, yamar said: Tried to pass the pen back after signing and missed. Overated in my eyes. Any player can chase down like a mad man. Benji will show him the other parts you need to be a midfielder. The benji that we've all seen play one conpetative game? Matt and Vranny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: The benji that we've all seen play one conpetative game? Be nice to see Gana or Schneiderlin play one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Aidan Lewis said: The benji that we've all seen play one conpetative game? Tut tut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 9 hours ago, Aidan Lewis said: The benji that we've all seen play one conpetative game? How has Beni become Benji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 10 hours ago, Aidan Lewis said: The benji that we've all seen play one conpetative game? How has Beni become Benji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, MikeO said: How has Beni become Benji? Dogs of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 In can see it now in a few months... Beni makes a couple of mistakes that lead to the opposition scoring a goal "fuckin shit you lad!!!"...... Spurs line up a £14.25m bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, hafnia said: In can see it now in a few months... Beni makes a couple of mistakes that lead to the opposition scoring a goal "fuckin shit you lad!!!"...... Spurs line up a £14.25m bid Keep up the positivity haf, you're doing really well son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, MikeO said: How has Beni become Benji? I have no idea haha. Probably because Ive only heard his name once like everyone else who is making out like he's the next makelele! Like haf said as soon as he makes a mistake everyone will get on his back and he will do a Ross Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, yamar said: Keep up the positivity haf, you're doing really well son. It's true though isn't it? Inevitable that our young home grown players will get pelters. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, hafnia said: It's true though isn't it? Inevitable that our young home grown players will get pelters. Yes, because we have the shitest fans in the premiership. We'll all be entering goodison with white hanky's soon. It's ridiculous how temperamental our fans are, but with years of dashed hope and frustration, it's inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, yamar said: Yes, because we have the shitest fans in the premiership. We'll all be entering goodison with white hanky's soon. It's ridiculous how temperamental our fans are, but with years of dashed hope and frustration, it's inevitable. Think most grounds are quieter these days. A lot more kids and girlfriends at the match now. I'd rather have a reactive crowd than the endless pointless noise Stoke and Blackburn fans make, or the faux atmosphere of the scarf waving tourist across the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Gana is the weak link in midfield, we will struggle to win with him on the pitch take his locker away pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I'm a big fan of his but he's much below the standard he set himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, Matt said: I'm a big fan of his but he's much below the standard he set himself. Can say that about most of the team at the moment, sadly. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I do think we need a more disciplined guy in there like Morgan. He will hold his position more and protect the back line more than Gana at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 He was useless at times today. Control, passing, defending all but us in trouble at various points and why on earth he comminted himself for the goal I don't know. All the ex-pros said it before the game, he isnt disciplined enough to be given the responsibility he had today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Oh look Pete, it's taken two more games for everyone to see what we're seeing now.l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 53 minutes ago, yamar said: Oh look Pete, it's taken two more games for everyone to see what we're seeing now.l Strange thing is he's not done anything different, just the commentators seem to have picked up on it. Sev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Clearly remember games last season where young Davies had to save the Ganas arse for the failures he did in the middle midfield. And clearly remember my brother saying "Waow! That Gana plays without a brain. Lucky for him Davies has got one". With the current situation, Gana is a luxery-player that we can't afford to play. He makes way too many mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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