London Blue Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Could be but if he's that unhappy, ask for a transfer. It's coming across as tactics to force a sale so he doesn't lose any potential loyalty bonus To be fair, according to the article, Sunderland dicked him on his first contract, then dicked him over a new contract in the summer, before telling him "Don't worry we'll give you a new contract once your escape window is closed", then when he complains giving him a contract that was not as promised. If all this is true why would you forgo a loyalty fee when Sunderland have been the disloyal party. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Don't forget Moyes publicly stated he was going to fine him which is slightly embarrassing. He may just not like Moyes. Edited August 19, 2016 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 To be fair, according to the article, Sunderland dicked him on his first contract, then dicked him over a new contract in the summer, before telling him "Don't worry we'll give you a new contract once your escape window is closed", then when he complains giving him a contract that was not as promised. If all this is true why would you forgo a loyalty fee when Sunderland have been the disloyal party. spot on. the lads done nothing wrong here. sunderland has acted like idiots. moyes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 To be fair, according to the article, Sunderland dicked him on his first contract, then dicked him over a new contract in the summer, before telling him "Don't worry we'll give you a new contract once your escape window is closed", then when he complains giving him a contract that was not as promised. If all this is true why would you forgo a loyalty fee when Sunderland have been the disloyal party. well put. Hasn't he only been there 6 months?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Moyes trying to be sir Alex again... markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I think Moyes is trying to put together the old Everton! They've signed Pienaar. Have Rodwell. Rumoured to want Jags and Fellaini. Is there another Everton old boy they signed??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 well put. Hasn't he only been there 6 months?! Yep signed for them in the last window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 We should have given Hibbo a new contract and put him in a swap deal. Miss opportunities lads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Sunderland lost Kaboul today so if they lose kone it's a lot of upheaval at an important position. Still think we will get him but moyes needs an experienced centre half. I'm sure he wants jags desperately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3749565/David-Moyes-questions-Lamine-Kone-injury-Sunderland-defender-tries-force-14m-Everton-move.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Let's be honest...if this was an Everton player, we'd be absolutely fuming on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Let's be honest...if this was an Everton player, we'd be absolutely fuming on this forum.Either that or we would be fuming at the club for fucking around. I don't know what life is like as a Sunderland supporter, but I've known times where everything that happened with Everton seemed to be a symptom of the club's failures. This isn't to defend Kone. I've got no clue as to the reality of the situation. What are their fans saying about this one? Edited August 19, 2016 by JoeQuince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Either that or we would be fuming at the club for fucking around. I don't know what life is like as a Sunderland supporter, but I've known times where everything that happened with Everton seemed to be a symptom of the club's failures. This isn't to defend Kone. I've got no clue as to the reality of the situation. What are their fans saying about this one? Ive got a few Macum mates and they just want him gone now, they don't blame the club at all To be fair I can se where they are coming from, he only signed in January and was offered a new contract this week and has turned it down so they feel the club has done right by him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Sunderland lost Kaboul today so if they lose kone it's a lot of upheaval at an important position. Still think we will get him but moyes needs an experienced centre half. I'm sure he wants jags desperately They're after Lescott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 They're after Lescott. seriously?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) They're after Lescott. Crikey, Moyes is really trying to get the band back together. He'll be signing up Gravesen and Carsley next. Edited August 20, 2016 by London Blue Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 seriously?! Apparently so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Let's be honest...if this was an Everton player, we'd be absolutely fuming on this forum. Not really, most would just be like "fuck him, move him on" Nobody wants a good player to leave, we had the same with Stones, nobody here fumed at him for wanting away we just wanted it resolving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Stones didn't make public statements complaining... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Not really, most would just be like "fuck him, move him on" Nobody wants a good player to leave, we had the same with Stones, nobody here fumed at him for wanting away we just wanted it resolving. Can't remember Stones putting himself in the media spotlight??? This is like the Lukaku situation. See how people feel about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 I think people would look at this a little differently if they applied it to their own job. If you were promised a new contract for helping the team stay up, which he did being their star defensive player, and then they didnt offer you that contact at the end of the season you would be pretty pissed off. You would then find it more insulting if you got another job offer on the table and then they said they would only give you the new contract after the chance to join this other company was no longer on the table. Then to rub even more salt into the wound after you had rightly kicked up a fuss about what is going on, they brought their offer forward, made it known to everyone, but offered you a much lower wage than you were expecting. I can see exactly why he wants out and I sure as fuck would too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Fine, Bailey, but don't go about it in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Fine, Bailey, but don't go about it in public. Unfortunately it is heard for this type of thing behind close doors these days. Its not like Sunderland have tried to keep it quite as they themselves have been giving the story to the press as well. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 I just think it's gone messier than it needed to be. He must have known of our interest. Used the contract malarkey as a way out. He just have just said 'I want to leave, thanks'. Why is this becoming rare these days? That a player just says to his club 'Better opportunity, thanks for what you've done but I'd like to go....' Isn't that what we do when we move jobs?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Unfortunately it is heard for this type of thing behind close doors these days. Its not like Sunderland have tried to keep it quite as they themselves have been giving the story to the press as well. they seemed to have been defending themselves publicly in my eyes. Anyway, que sera sera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Sunderland are being cheap and snide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Sunderland are being cheap and snide.hes been there 6 months! Now he's making public statements saying he wants to leave but it's the clubs fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 hes been there 6 months! Now he's making public statements saying he wants to leave but it's the clubs fault? I think he was promised a new contract this summer if they survived, which they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 I think he was promised a new contract this summer if they survived, which they did.promised or is it written into his contract? Either way, shouldn't be out in public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Can't remember Stones putting himself in the media spotlight??? This is like the Lukaku situation. See how people feel about that one. Moyes has been the one doing all the talking about this one, the player has said nothing other than an alledged false statement leaked to the press. It's the same situation with Lukaku, if he wants to go, let him go it's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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