Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Basically the same team I suggested. I really think that all those players up there together, with a fair amount of rotation, would be a terrifying forcemore or less mate, just set t out that way to emphasise the 1 holder and massive pace on attack Apparently I'm working today, got a call, but it will be from home so finally get to see a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 On paper having Geri, Bolasie, Mirallas and Barkley in a forward line may look pretty, but in reality they'd get in each others way, they'd try to occupy similar space and ruin each others work. Barkley would have to be deeper and 'out of the way' so to speak.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 On paper having Geri, Bolasie, Mirallas and Barkley in a forward line may look pretty, but in reality they'd get in each others way, they'd try to occupy similar space and ruin each others work. Barkley would have to be deeper and 'out of the way' so to speak....i disagree, I think it would give him more space to run from the back and link the play with 3 tricky, pacy wingers giving him more options and allowing him to "think" less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Think Barkley does need to play deeper in this set up, I just don't think that means he would be "out of the way." I like him linking up play with some space in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Plus it would mean that we have the same problem as Martinez's sides in that we have too many people ahead of the ball leaving ourselves open to the counter. If we play 4-3-3 with those players then I'm sure he will be in a supporting role rather than an attacking role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 i disagree, I think it would give him more space to run from the back and link the play with 3 tricky, pacy wingers giving him more options and allowing him to "think" less Yep...3 wingers...2 wings available. Plus 2 full backs pushing on to occupy the same space. Obviously if he tries that line up then I'm wrong, if he never does, then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Think Barkley does need to play deeper in this set up, I just don't think that means he would be "out of the way." I like him linking up play with some space in front of him. Playing him deeper puts him out of the way of that forward line up. That doesn't mean he is not involved, he still has a big role to play. He just wouldn't be occupying the exact same space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yep...3 wingers...2 wings available. Plus 2 full backs pushing on to occupy the same space. Obviously if he tries that line up then I'm wrong, if he never does, then.... 1 winger down the middle (all three are capable) and the FB overlap in support. It's a perfect counter setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Plus it would mean that we have the same problem as Martinez's sides in that we have too many people ahead of the ball leaving ourselves open to the counter. If we play 4-3-3 with those players then I'm sure he will be in a supporting role rather than an attacking role. Yep. With the full backs pushing on as they do now...That's 7 players pushing forward and only 3 left at the back. Classic set up for counter attack and suckered punch goals. As we seen plenty of times under Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) 1 winger down the middle (all three are capable) and the FB overlap in support. It's a perfect counter setup With Barkley alongside them? As in the original post? All 4 of them in a line behind Lukaku??? Plus 2 overlapping full backs??? Edited August 20, 2016 by Newty82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 With Barkley alongside them? As in the original post? All 4 of them in a line behind Lukaku???they don't attack in a striata line dude. I can see why it's not clear; I put Barkley alongside the other three to show him as an attacking force. If I put him next to the DCM in a 4231 it can look like he's playing that DCM Role. Make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 they don't attack in a striata line dude. I can see why it's not clear; I put Barkley alongside the other three to show him as an attacking force. If I put him next to the DCM in a 4231 it can look like he's playing that DCM Role. Make sense? In a 4231...it's almost spot on. In a 4141...it's not, the balance swings. I was commenting on what I could see on my screen...not how it would work inside your mind!!! Barkley could play deeper...doesn't mean he's a 'DCM'. I know it's fashionable to line them up like that...how about 41131?!!! Almost there!!! Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Erm...suss that one out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) That is a tidy looking bench. Williams, Lukaku and Bolasie. Starting 3-5-2? Stekelenburg Holgate. Jags. Mori McCarthy Gueye Barkley Barry Baines Gerry. Kev Edited August 20, 2016 by rusty747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Was expecting Williams to be playing in place of holgate. I hope we get into them straight away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 We get another few players in and our bench is gonna look seriously good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 In a 4231...it's almost spot on. In a 4141...it's not, the balance swings. I was commenting on what I could see on my screen...not how it would work inside your mind!!! Barkley could play deeper...doesn't mean he's a 'DCM'. I know it's fashionable to line them up like that...how about 41131?!!! Almost there!!! Haha. Wtf is McCarthy doing on the right wing?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 That is a tidy looking bench. Williams, Lukaku and Bolasie. Starting 3-5-2? Stekelenburg Holgate. Jags. Moro McCarthy Gueye Barkley Barry Baines Gerry. Kev assuming 343? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Wtf is McCarthy doing on the right wing?! I was hoping you'd explain that one. I'm out!!! Haha. I'm not convinced they'll line up how that graphic shows. More likely 3 CB'S...Baines - Mccarthy as WB'S...Barry, Geuye as per...the forward 3, erm, Geri up top???!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 The options on the bench allow us to change shape quite significantly. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 assuming 343? Definitely. That's how we played this exact XI last week. Wouldn't expect them to come out any differently. I'm looking forward to running them ragged and then putting on Lukaku, Lennon and Bolasie in the second half to kick them while they're down. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 I was hoping you'd explain that one. I'm out!!! Haha. I'm not convinced they'll line up how that graphic shows. More likely 3 CB'S...Baines - Mccarthy as WB'S...Barry, Geuye as per...the forward 3, erm, Geri up top???!!! dont care to be honest, just excited to see my first game of the season. Was travelling nearly all preseason and for the first game. Going to get my shirt on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Was expecting Williams to be playing in place of holgate. I hope we get into them straight away I was also, Williams is probably the fittest player in that squad at the minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 My kodi has took the knock any links would be appreciated thanks. Same here please! It's a jungle out there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Same here please! It's a jungle out there!!! We don't post links on here as it's not strictly legal but some sites do. https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/4yox4l/match_thread_1400_gmt_west_bromwich_albion_vs/ Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 COYB. 3 points is a must today if we have European ambitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 COYB! Love the 343. What a bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 We don't post links on here as it's not strictly legal but some sites do. https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/4yox4l/match_thread_1400_gmt_west_bromwich_albion_vs/ Yeah sorry...I intended it to mean a PM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 What a save from Stekkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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