Lowensda Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Some of our fans are giving him abuse on Twitter. It's not his fault we didn't get the players we wanted, he actually wanted to join us you bunch of fluffing cuntnuggets. Disgraceful. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 That's pretty pathetic. I understand not thinking of him as an ideal signing, but why completely try to destroy his confidence before he even kicks a ball for us? Valencia was excellent during the last world Cup, so I'm hoping he can find that form again. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 seriously? he hasn't even put a shirt on yet! unfortunately you can't stop neanderthals using the internet or supporting our club. embarrassing. London Blue, MikeO, Baba and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 The fact West Ham were willing to loan him to a direct rival tells you everything you need to know about this. No team in their right mind would loan a player to their direct competitor unless he was shite. Akin to us loaning them Kone or Niasse. Bizarre transfer this one I still can't get my head around it. If you ever needed an example of a panic buy it's right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Bizarre transfer this one I still can't get my head around it. If you ever needed an example of a panic buy it's right here. You answered yourself Pad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 You answered yourself Pad! Why bother though Ten? May as well give Niasse a try as this lad. 8 goals in 61 appearances in the prem or something like that, what's the point mate we may as well of saved the money and played Niasse. The fact West Ham were willing to loan him to us should have been enough to make us realise he's not good enough. West Ham fans are delighted ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 West ham fans are idiots full stop. Their opinion of him playing in their shite team relying all on payet means nothing to me. Like villa saying Gueye was shit when really he was good just their team was shit and they couldn't tell the difference. I will wait to have an opinion till koeman has time to mold him into the player he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 West ham fans are idiots full stop. Their opinion of him playing in their shite team relying all on payet means nothing to me. Like villa saying Gueye was shit when really he was good just their team was shit and they couldn't tell the difference. I will wait to have an opinion till koeman has time to mold him into the player he wants. Mark his goal tally is dreadful West Ham couldn't wait to get rid, he's their Kone. Villa didn't want to sell Gueye they wanted to keep him. West Ham fans know their football and have watched him more than anyone else so I'll take their view. Wait until you see his first touch. You think Lukakus is bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) I think the majority of his apps have been from the bench due to injury etc Pad so it doesn't paint a true picture and he's also been used out wide more often than not so his goals to game ratio won't be great I'm not glossing over the fact it's a very underwhelming signing but I don't think he'll be as bad as some expect Time will tell and I'll gladly be vaulted on this one but I know the lad will be more use to us than Niasse and Kone Edited September 1, 2016 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I think the majority of his apps have been from the bench due to injury etc Pad so it doesn't paint a true picture and he's also been used out wide more often than not so his goals to game ratio won't be great I'm not glossing over the fact it's a very underwhelming signing but I don't think he'll be as bad as some expect Time will tell and I'll gladly be vaulted on this one but I know the lad will be more use to us than Niasse and Kone Hope so Paul sometimes a change is alls that's needed. I'mnot holding my breath though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Hope so Paul sometimes a change is alls that's needed. I'mnot holding my breath though. That's my glimmer of hope Pad if Koeman and Walsh see something there still in him then I'll reserve judgement I think Koeman wanted a fairly quick more agile in and around type who can hit on the break and to compliment Lukaku hence why I think we didn't go for the likes of Bony, I still think Remy would have been a good addition but hey ho it wasn't to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 That's my glimmer of hope Pad if Koeman and Walsh see something there still in him then I'll reserve judgement I think Koeman wanted a fairly quick more agile in and around type who can hit on the break and to compliment Lukaku hence why I think we didn't go for the likes of Bony, I still think Remy would have been a good addition but hey ho it wasn't to be Think Bony would have been wrong for us mate. 2 static not very mobile forwards together would have nullified us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I think the majority of his apps have been from the bench due to injury etc Pad so it doesn't paint a true picture and he's also been used out wide more often than not so his goals to game ratio won't be great I'm not glossing over the fact it's a very underwhelming signing but I don't think he'll be as bad as some expect Time will tell and I'll gladly be vaulted on this one but I know the lad will be more use to us than Niasse and Kone I'm in agreement with you. Goal involvement is good of you include assists, just need to get the fitness to play. Goal or assist every 195 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 The only thing Koeman and Walsh have seen in Valencia is a panic buy. It's a disgraceful signing from the board. Embarrassing. Hopefully we can kick on and Valencia can go back to wherever he came next season. I've seen him play and I invest zero confidence in him, instead I'll let him try to convince me, which I would bet my mortgage on him not doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 I don't for one second think he's a bad player. Looked very good in world cup and very good when first at West ham. If he's shit then so what... we cut him loose. We've hardly spent big money on getting him. He's like a loan version of sissoko. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 He's absolutely dreadful. If Lukaku gets a proper injury and we have to play this clown we're in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 He's absolutely dreadful. If Lukaku gets a proper injury and we have to play this clown we're in trouble. We have Gerry who's played there now, Kone who finally looks fit as well. We've won 2 drawn 1 mate not sure why you think the sky is falling were in 5th place in the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 We have Gerry who's played there now, Kone who finally looks fit as well. We've won 2 drawn 1 mate not sure why you think the sky is falling were in 5th place in the table. Del was a bit crap there and Kone's just proper Kone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 FFS can we just get behind the lad, he is playing for us now after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 We have Gerry who's played there now, Kone who finally looks fit as well. We've won 2 drawn 1 mate not sure why you think the sky is falling were in 5th place in the table. Gerry is not a striker never in a million years should we be thinking of playing him. Kone is absolute shite. Until Janusry we are one injury away from disaster. There is no getting around that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) He's absolutely dreadful. If Lukaku gets a proper injury and we have to play this clown we're in trouble.Is he? You sure about that? You see I've seen games where he looks a very capable player. Some players don't fit certain clubs. He played under allardyce... enough to destroy any south American players ethos. It wouldn't be the first time we take a player on loan who finds their home at Goodison. Personally I will give him a chance. I'm not going to guess that he is garbage. Many on here wanted him after the world cup and were disappointed that West ham got him. A £15m player on loan.... he has something to prove. Edited September 3, 2016 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 My initial reaction was OTT, probably off the back of the frustration of TDD and only seeing him play well at the WC years ago. But, he's here now and I imagine he's got a point to prove. Happy to be proven wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Is he? You sure about that? You see I've seen games where he looks a very capable player. Some players don't fit certain clubs. He played under allardyce... enough to destroy any south American players ethos. It wouldn't be the first time we take a player on loan who finds their home at Goodison. Personally I will give him a chance. I'm not going to guess that he is garbage. Many on here wanted him after the world cup and were disappointed that West ham got him. A £15m player on loan.... he has something to prove. He's scored as many goals as Kone in 10 more games. I hope he proves me wrong but I'm filing him under tosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 I'd love to know how many times some of you lot have watched the lad play. Match of the Day experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 I know nothing about the lad so lets see shall we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 He's scored as many goals as Kone in 10 more games. I hope he proves me wrong but I'm filing him under tosh. How many minutes did he play in those games and under what position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 I'd love to know how many times some of you lot have watched the lad play. Match of the Day experts. Thats a fair point. I have probably seen him in a dozen games in total albeit probably not watching the full 90 minutes in at least a couple of these but when he has been playing he has been largely anonymous and that is my concern. He seems to be a cross between a winger and a striker but not good enough to stand out in either position. Interestingly Whoscored have a page on him and list his positives and negatives: https://www.whoscored.com/Players/83895 That pretty much sums up what I have seen from him but he did look good in the WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaToffee Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 How many minutes did he play in those games and under what position? I believe he played wide a lot with West Ham. He's a more natural striker. He looked fantastic against us here in the Copa America this summer I think he'll be a capable sub and spot starter. Much better than Kone on his day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 An unpredictable and talented player with a point to prove, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in an Everton shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 He's absolutely dreadful. If Lukaku gets a proper injury and we have to play this clown we're in trouble. How can you possibly know that? Several top players in the Prem had poor stats with a previous club because they were used as a square peg in a round hole. Let's just wait and see, shall we, rather than slamming someone who's yet to even wear an Everton shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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