Paddock Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Maybe you had leg strength in there that needed to be coached out MC. I don't do near enough exercise, but I manage a bit on the treadmill and bike two or three times a week and five a side once a week and I still struggle to get under a ten minute mile on a regular basis. I train 5 times a week in the gym, I do legs Monday, shoulders triceps Tursday, Chest bieps Weds and back Thursday, and do a 5 mile walk 2 of those sessions on the treadmill. Friday I do HIT training on the treadmill and with kettle bells and a2000 meter fast row. I had a great shape on me at one time, I used to train with Andy Holligan a while back and a couple of body builders then I got a bad back injury so stopped training. I went from 15 stone of mostly muscle to 17 stone almost. Finally sorted the back injury out but it took 3 years of being taken out the house in ambulances on stretchers and gas and air, tramadol, diazepam, codeine phosphate the lot. It really fucked me up for a while. I'm back at it now and my back (touch wood) has no pain, I'm slowly getting back bit by bit but as you get older, the pounds get harder to shift and that strict diet gets harder to stick toI'll never get back to the shape I was in when I was younger but I'm enjoying being in the gym again and my strength is improving massively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Don't forget the most important hing Matt. This is fun and an enjoyable experience mate, have the time of your life. Yup! But I don't want to have a heart-attack after 10 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 There you go again making stuff up. If you haven't done any training for years you wont get fit in 12 weeks. You'll shed some weight but you wont be fit. Maybe your definition of fit differs from mine. When you start you will shed weight super quick because you'll lose a lot of water retention but once that honeymoon period is over the weight loss will plateau and it gets harder to shed weight. Losing 2 stone if you're overweight doesn't mean you are fit. It takes years of intense training, strict diet and discipline to be proper fit. If it took 12 weeks every fucker would be doing it in the blink of an eye. losing 2 stone and running a decent time on a tread mill doesn't mean you're fit. Keep in mind that I'm 33, 72kg and 174cm tall (BMI 23.8 which is in the healthy range for someone of my height apparently) so the aim isn't to lose fat. My initial aim is 45m of amateur footy. After that I might get up to "fit" fit, but for now it's just about enjoying the experience. I'm hoping this is a catalyst for a change in lifestyle where I actually keep going and eat healthy, for the sake of the family as much as myself. But I'll never go back to a gym, can't stand the places Cheers, Haf! I've got quite a few around me so was going to have to do that whether I wanted to or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Keep in mind that I'm 33, 72kg and 174cm tall (BMI 23.8 which is in the healthy range for someone of my height apparently) so the aim isn't to lose fat. My initial aim is 45m of amateur footy. After that I might get up to "fit" fit, but for now it's just about enjoying the experience. I'm hoping this is a catalyst for a change in lifestyle where I actually keep going and eat healthy, for the sake of the family as much as myself. But I'll never go back to a gym, can't stand the places Cheers, Haf! I've got quite a few around me so was going to have to do that whether I wanted to or not Personally I would be smashing the HIT (high intensity training) if I were you. Put the treadmill on 20 (or as fast as it will go) and start off running for 30 seconds and have 90 seconds off and do it for 15 minutes combined time then work up to as near to 30 seconds on 30 seconds off as you can. Football is about short bursts of running, the rest is spent jogging around. Be careful on the old joints though mate, I know you're a bit of a Darren Anderton Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Personally I would be smashing the HIT (high intensity training) if I were you. Put the treadmill on 20 (or as fast as it will go) and start off running for 30 seconds and have 90 seconds off and do it for 15 minutes combined time then work up to as near to 30 seconds on 30 seconds off as you can. Football is about short bursts of running, the rest is spent jogging around. Be careful on the old joints though mate, I know you're a bit of a Darren Anderton I make him look consistent! So many breaks and tears over the years I played - exercise is actually bad for my health My plan is to run down to the castle, around and back to the park then home. It's about 3 miles (sister did it in 30 mins) and has a mix of flat, steep hills and gentle slopes. If I can get myself doing this without a break I'll be happy with myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 To be honest, you'll be able to play 45 mins regardless of your fitness. You just wont enjoy it if your level of fitness isn't enough that you can exercise for 45 minutes without throwing up ? Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Army basic training is only twelve weeks, if your not fit after that there must be a very serious reason for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 depends how good you are at football for your fitness, for example, Berbatov, hardly ran, heavy smoker, still was one of the best strikers I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Army basic training is only twelve weeks, if your not fit after that there must be a very serious reason for it. He hasn't got a clue Bill. Leave him to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I agree on the twelve weeks -- I stay pretty fit, but I have times where I fall off of the wagon and can get in shape pretty quickly when I do cardio and a few core workouts every day/every other day. Definitely run/bike to improve stamina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 He hasn't got a clue Bill. Leave him to it. I agree MC, 12 weeks is more than enough time. Mind over matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think Pad assumed I was more unfit than I made out. Nothing to argue about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Look what you've done, Matt. You cause arguments everywhere you go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Look what you've done, Matt. You cause arguments everywhere you go!oh no I don't! :shaking fist: Oh wait, I've done it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 matt any chance there will be a live feed so we can assess your all around game and offer critiques and stinging remarks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 matt any chance there will be a live feed so we can assess your all around game and offer critiques and stinging remarks?highly doubt it but pretty sure there's a DVD being made that I'll order. Dunno if FAMan could confirm if putting it up on youtube would be allowed so I could share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Army basic training is only twelve weeks, if your not fit after that there must be a very serious reason for it. Agree. Twelve weeks is enough for a person with basic fitness. There is a health issue if you can't do it in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 matt any chance there will be a live feed so we can assess your all around game and offer critiques and stinging remarks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Haha how funny would that be, I mean how interesting would that be. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 You lot a sick! Based on my "career" playing football, 99% 5-a-side, in likely to break something! And you want to see that?! You're all sick in the head I tell ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) I'll be playing RB, something I've not done before, though the few times I did play 11-a-side (3 games, 2 assists ) I played RW. I'm hoping I'll emulate Seamus Though, like my dad was, I'm very much more like Ossie; not the fastest but I could role the biggest I came up against and had Velcro feet. Dad will be more like Barry nowadays, but at 57, I think that's allowed Hes taking this so seriously. He was told in his early 30s he needed surgery on his knees because the cartiledge was non-existent. He refused because it would rule him out of footy (only stopped playing 2 years ago. I had the same approach when I broke my hip at 16; never be in pain and stop playing or painkillers and phsyio. Part of the reason I want to get fit is to make sure I don't get outrun by him Edited February 24, 2017 by Matt Sibdane and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) I'll be playing RB, something I've not done before, though the few times I did play 11-a-side (3 games, 2 assists ) I'm hoping I'll emulate Seamus Though, like my dad was, I'm very much more like Ossie; not the fastest but I could role the biggest I came up against and had Velcro feet. Dad will be more like Barry nowadays, but at 57, I think that's allowed Hes taking this so seriously. He was told in his early 30s he needed surgery on his knees because the cartiledge was non-existent. Part of the reason I want to get fit is to make sure I don't get outrun by him I love the modern day fullback -- the ability to attack but also get stuck in. I play LB (LM/W mostly) sometimes in 7-a-sides. The hard part is the tracking back. Edited February 24, 2017 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 it will be fun to hear how it goes matt. RB maybe try and emulate hibbo more than seamus if you don't have the speed can you cross? if you can swing a couple in the box and defend ok I'm sure you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Corrected the last post, T. I'm hoping we'll constantly be on the attack so I don't have to track back markjazzbassist and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 it will be fun to hear how it goes matt. RB maybe try and emulate hibbo more than seamus if you don't have the speed can you cross? if you can swing a couple in the box and defend ok I'm sure you'll be fine.ive got a cracking right foot, no left. My assists came from a corner and a running cross, so I'm hoping to repeat those at least 5/6 times markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Posting in here reminds me of how real it is. For the most part, I think of it as a "yeah, this is a happy dream" until I realise and then it's "holy fuck! IM GOING TO PLAY AT GOODISON IN FRONT OF ME FAMILY!!! FUUUUUUUUUCK!" Sibdane and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Matt you'll probably just stand there looking around thinking... holy shit I'm playing at Goodison haha! Well I for one hope your gonna have the best day ever mate and I'm sure all of TT can't wait to see hear about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Corrected the last post, T. I'm hoping we'll constantly be on the attack so I don't have to track back Those are the best matches; when you don't have to run much and can spend your time in the opposition's half! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I think there won't be a single TT member who isn't extremely jealous Matt. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I'm definitely envious. Mainly, because I'm in the States and am afraid I'll never see Goodison, since we may be moving (knock on wood). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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