markjazzbassist Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well here it is, the derby and it's home, I'm really not looking forward to this, I think we could have another Roberto like spanking of 4-0. Joel Coleman Jags Mori Baines Gana Barry Gerry Barkley Mirallas Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm trying not to think about this. Another embarrassment is on the cards. Chach, SimonButtle, rubecula and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well here it is, the derby and it's home, I'm really not looking forward to this, I think we could have another Roberto like spanking of 4-0. Joel Coleman Jags Mori Baines Barry Gana Barkley Gerry Lukaku Mirallas I'd prefer that, but as Romey says, I'm trying not to think about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I worry about Burnley, Bournemouth and Watford, but I think we could do well in the next two home games. I reckon the team will be up for them, if they're not we should be selling the f++kin lot in January. Edited December 12, 2016 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 It's when we've been atrocious that we've tended to perform in this fixture, so it's a nailed on 4-0 home win with a half way through second half red card for oooh, lets say Milner. Fire and Brimstone - Goodison wakes up finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Winless in last 12 derbies. 5 losses and 7 draws. Last win Oct 17, 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Wow how bad are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Terrified if I am honest, so sure we will get a Glen Keeley type of match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Nothing to worry about guys, we don't lose on Mondays. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I worry that todays performance might just give me false hope! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 no jags due to the red card. so here is my amended lineup Stekelenberg Coleman Williams Mori Baines Gana McCarthy Lennon Barkley Valencia Lukaku if it ain't broke don't fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Would never have believed anyone if they'd have told me a few months ago Mccarthy would be keeping Barry out the team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisbaneblue Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 We didn't play particularly good against Arsenal - if they had more conviction in the final third they could have had 2 or 3 by half time. The goals we scored were soft uncontested headers too, so I am not so sure that our defensive and attacking problems still don't exist. Hopefully though, the result will kick the team (and the fans) into gear. Looks like Liverpool might be hitting a bit of a lull after 2 bad results in the league, so I think the game will be more competitive than it looked a couple weeks ago. I'd be tempted to bring in Joel, Holgate and Deulofeu to fix the pre-existing problems but I think Koeman will stick to what's worked tonight (with Funes Mori replacing suspended Jags), and I wouldn't blame him: Stekelenberg Coleman Williams Funes Mori Baines Gana McCarthy Lennon Barkley Valencia Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Robles Holgate Williams Mori Baines Coleman Gana Barry McCarthy Valencia Lukaku Been a while since Coleman has played on the wing, but we could do with his energy/fight further up the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Still expecting us to be brought down to earth again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Still expecting us to be brought down to earth again It's what we do. It's the hope that gets you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 We didn't play particularly good against Arsenal - if they had more conviction in the final third they could have had 2 or 3 by half time. The goals we scored were soft uncontested headers too, so I am not so sure that our defensive and attacking problems still don't exist. Hopefully though, the result will kick the team (and the fans) into gear. Looks like Liverpool might be hitting a bit of a lull after 2 bad results in the league, so I think the game will be more competitive than it looked a couple weeks ago. I'd be tempted to bring in Joel, Holgate and Deulofeu to fix the pre-existing problems but I think Koeman will stick to what's worked tonight (with Funes Mori replacing suspended Jags), and I wouldn't blame him: Stekelenberg Coleman Williams Funes Mori Baines Gana McCarthy Lennon Barkley Valencia Lukaku Stop being realistic! Just let us believe that we are back to the good ole days for a few more hours at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Liverpool's strength is their attack. Their weakness is their defence. We therefore need to be brave and name an attacking team to really get at their back line. If we do that, there will be goals and I think we will score more than them. On the other hand, if we sit back we will get well and truly twatted. Edited December 15, 2016 by rusty747 chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I think another McCarthy challenge like he made on the Arsenal player in the first few mins, probably on Lallana or Firmino, would ruffle a lot of feathers and maybe make them a bit more weary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I'd man mark Lallana as it will nullify Firminho as well. Origi and Mane are pacey direct players whereas he feeds off intelligent players. Glad Jagielka isn't playing, as hopefully who ever is captain will get in Henderson's face before the little crier trys to ref the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 We need to get through the first 20 minutes unscathed. Liverpool will come out of the blocks flying. They'll put a lot of pressure on early and try to starve us of possession. They'll want to take the sting out of the game and get the crowd to go quiet. We absolutely cannot concede the first goal. We need to get through that first period and show them we are dangerous with a few shots that test the keeper. This should make them think twice about all out attack as they know they are shaky in defence. With Coutinho injured they will look to play through Lallana. He is their key man and we need to keep him isolated and choke him out of the game. If we don't let the occasion get to us as usual and we can keep a clean sheet then I'm sure we can get a good result. I think a 0-0 at half time and they will be happy with that. Score late in the game and maybe we can get a second when they start to throw the kitchen sink in. On the evidence of the past two games we'd be better off conceding first! dlblue and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 As long as coutinho is still out, they aren't the same team. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) We need to get through the first 20 minutes unscathed. Liverpool will come out of the blocks flying. They'll put a lot of pressure on early and try to starve us of possession. They'll want to take the sting out of the game and get the crowd to go quiet. We absolutely cannot concede the first goal. We need to get through that first period and show them we are dangerous with a few shots that test the keeper. This should make them think twice about all out attack as they know they are shaky in defence. With Coutinho injured they will look to play through Lallana. He is their key man and we need to keep him isolated and choke him out of the game. If we don't let the occasion get to us as usual and we can keep a clean sheet then I'm sure we can get a good result. I think a 0-0 at half time and they will be happy with that. Score late in the game and maybe we can get a second when they start to throw the kitchen sink in. easier said than done - really impressive last night. They don't get "isolated" - all front 3 are willing runners and they are an absolute nightmare for defences to contain. Origi and Lallana were particularly good last night - loads of intelligent running - pressing and interplay. They switch positions across the front line and make it tough for defenders to track them. Mane is very quick on the ball too. The defence is garbage though and the only way we will get a result is to press them hard and high like Bournemouth did. Edited December 15, 2016 by Hafnia Sibdane and chicagoblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 defense and keepers are garbage, attack with Valencia romelu barkley lennon with pace and batter them. McCarthy and gana stop them from crossing the halfway line and have baines and coleman bomb the flanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 It'll either be a draw or a big loss - depending on which Everton team shows up. I'd lean toward players for whom Everton means everything - Barkley being a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Stek Coleman. Williams. Mori. Baines Gana. McCarthy Lennon. Barkley. Valencia Lukaku And, same again please lads! dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Unless we have some injuries that we've not been told about I'd go with that rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 McCarthy needs to shake Mane up. Mane has a fiery nature and can lose it easily. He was lucky to stay on the pitch against West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) This game will be one of the most aggressive we will see in the league this season! Koeman will send his players out there with every intention of getting them riled up and showing some aggression. Someone will get sent off, think I'll stick money on it! Edited December 15, 2016 by AidanLewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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