Hafnia Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: glad i'm not the only one. he's a pussy. yeah poor jack, the pride of england, i don't get the hype either. One of the best transitional midfielders in the league. The way he takes the ball on the turn is up there with the best. One touch... low centre of gravity.... A very good player. Bit of a nob the way he's always fronting players up but you can't argue with his ability... has lots of ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, hafnia said: One of the best transitional midfielders in the league. The way he takes the ball on the turn is up there with the best. One touch... low centre of gravity.... A very good player. Bit of a nob the way he's always fronting players up but you can't argue with his ability... has lots of ability. he is a complete knob, napoleon complex to the max the little fucker. tries to square up to his own dad if he loses in the back yard i bet. i don't want that bad attitude here, that's not everton being a spoiled prick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Aidan said: We need a unit. A fit, fighting, strong, 6ft 4 unit that can be the enforcer of that flimsy midfield we have. Doucoure, or someone like that. None of this Jack Wiltshire shite he Walcott and half of the rest of our team would be keeping the medical team on overtime. I actually do agree with you on having a strong CM, but I'd take Wilshere in a heartbeat too, especially on a free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I'd have him on a free but only after the team is sorted as in our new manager wants him and other midfielders have moved on and a left back + cb have been bought and our lw situation is sorted either from what we have or also from the market....... So... probably won't have him, ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: he is a complete knob, napoleon complex to the max the little fucker. tries to square up to his own dad if he loses in the back yard i bet. i don't want that bad attitude here, that's not everton being a spoiled prick I think the issue with players like that tends to disappear when they play for you. If only the likes of schneiderlin had that bit of fight eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 No thanks. He's brilliant when his team are winning 3 - 0 but when they're losing 3 - 0 he's nowhere to be seen. Injury prone and spends too much time on the ground appealing for free kicks. markjazzbassist, Matt and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 hours ago, hafnia said: I think the issue with players like that tends to disappear when they play for you. If only the likes of schneiderlin had that bit of fight eh? good point morgan can get himself a transfer out of here because he just doesn't fit the club ethos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: good point morgan can get himself a transfer out of here because he just doesn't fit the club ethos. Any clubs have a club ethos that encourages players to not give a shit? Any clubs encourage their players to start laughing when watching us get beaten by atalanta? Any clubs encourage such players to shrug their shoulders at enraged fans who question whether they care that we get beat? The same player was invited to walk off the training pitch by unsworth after showing disregard for a drill.... he took up that invite. ...... I don't mind players who are a bit spikey and want to win when you consider all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/notebook-jack-wilshere-bid-by-everton-to-include-8m-sign-on-fee-jlwld3tp9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Jesus. Poor mans arteta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 12 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/notebook-jack-wilshere-bid-by-everton-to-include-8m-sign-on-fee-jlwld3tp9 Yeah, him being on a free will definitely offset the possibility of him remaining a crock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Yeah, him being on a free will definitely offset the possibility of him remaining a crock. It appears he's got China ankles but I honestly think if you factor in the injuries at arsenal them you can maybe take a gamble. He's had fatigue fractures and hairline cracks. Makes you wonder about playing too much when he was under developed. I think if his physical condition is managed correctly - if it can be them he is a top level midfielder of the ilk we are looking for. - always looks to take the ball from the defence and plays forward - incredibly composed on the ball and able to take it in close quarters. - can shoot from distance - great passer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, hafnia said: It appears he's got China ankles but I honestly think if you factor in the injuries at arsenal them you can maybe take a gamble. He's had fatigue fractures and hairline cracks. Makes you wonder about playing too much when he was under developed. I think if his physical condition is managed correctly - if it can be them he is a top level midfielder of the ilk we are looking for. - always looks to take the ball from the defence and plays forward - incredibly composed on the ball and able to take it in close quarters. - can shoot from distance - great passer I'm not arguing his ability or that he'd be a good signing for us if he can stay fit. But an £8m signing-on fee, and then being one of our top earners, represents a lot more than a gamble. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 8m for a player of Wilshires ability is an absolute steal. I would be really surprised if he came here as I would be expecting CL teams to be taking advantage of this. c1982 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Paul he is nowhere close to Walcott in ability and 5 times more injured than Walcott has been. Terrible comparison. hes Gibson and McCarthy replacement on the physio table. No thanks. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Paul he is nowhere close to Walcott in ability and 5 times more injured than Walcott has been. Terrible comparison. Completely different players - Walcott is explosive. You’re right though - purely based on footballing ability e.g passing, control, vision, creativity, intelligence and what they do with the ball - they are miles apart. Wilshere is a much better footballer. If Wilshere didn’t have his injury problems then we wouldn’t even be mentioned - it’d be Man C, Barca, Real. Regardless, I think this is nothing more than his agent touting him about to force Arsenal’s hand. EFC-Paul, Bailey, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 I’d have him on a free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: Paul he is nowhere close to Walcott in ability and 5 times more injured than Walcott has been. Terrible comparison. hes Gibson and McCarthy replacement on the physio table. No thanks. You serious??? Wilshere operates on a technical level that is not in the remit of your general English footballer. He doesn't take more than a touch or two every time gets the ball.... he's a proper footballer. Walcott is a brilliant speedster and a decent player but ffs you can't even compare the two. Wilshere is a pure footballer. c1982 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: Paul he is nowhere close to Walcott in ability and 5 times more injured than Walcott has been. Terrible comparison. hes Gibson and McCarthy replacement on the physio table. No thanks. Ability wise he is a mile above Walcott mate. I dthink br think Arsenal will even let him go, they can’t afford to lose that type of quality. One of their better players. c1982 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shukes said: Ability wise he is a mile above Walcott mate. I dthink br think Arsenal will even let him go, they can’t afford to lose that type of quality. One of their better players. He doesn't want to leave but Arsenal only want him if he signs a contract based more on play and pay, can we really afford to take the risk on player who it constantly injured. It would seem even Arsenal have had enough of paying someone to stay at home most Saturday's and lay on the physio's bench during the week, for me to much of a risk but still a good player when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 He played 27 last season and has played 31 in all comps so far this season. Yes he’s had a bad run with injuries in his short career so far but maybe that’s behind him and his best years are yet to come. £8m sign-on and say £100k a week seems ridiculous but sadly it’s a drop in the ocean with the billions you see in this league nowadays. Based on 3 seasons we’d be looking at a £24m outlay - 3 decent seasons and we’d recoup that easily. 3 shite seasons... well we’ve spent more on worse recently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said: I've come to the conclusion that many football fans wouldn't know a good player if he came up and booted a ball in their face ;-) Complaints about Wilshere's attitude. We've got far too many "nice guys" in the squad and that's part of the problem. It's the reason McCarthy broke his leg, nice boy Morgan didn't have the temperament to bust a gut and make a challenge so McCarthy had to make a last ditch desperate attempt and paid the price. Not his attitude. His mentality. He's one of the weakest players in the league. Only difference between him and schneiderlein would be Wilshire would've hit the deck and blamed his boots. He's got no fight and shirks responsibility. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 The English bias is so strong. Because he can thread some passes he’s now xavi and Real Madrid and Barca could be calling: laughable, he was at Bournemouth last campaign. That’s his level. Notice we are linked, 10th place Everton. Not Peps city who should want the English pirlo, no Everton who play punt and run. Thanks for the laughs guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, markjazzbassist said: The English bias is so strong. Because he can thread some passes he’s now xavi and Real Madrid and Barca could be calling: laughable, he was at Bournemouth last campaign. That’s his level. Notice we are linked, 10th place Everton. Not Peps city who should want the English pirlo, no Everton who play punt and run. Thanks for the laughs guys. No, people who rate him are saying he would have been talked of at a much higher level had it not been for the injuries that have halted his incredible potential early in his career. He went to Bornemouth on the back of hardly playing for over 2 years - I personally respect that decision as it would have been easier for him to sit on the bench for Arsenal. He’s obviously not going to attract the very top teams now but to think a fully fit Wilshere wouldn’t improve Everton suggests you haven’t seen us play much in the past couple of years. Matt, Romey 1878 and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: The English bias is so strong. Because he can thread some passes he’s now xavi and Real Madrid and Barca could be calling: laughable, he was at Bournemouth last campaign. That’s his level. Notice we are linked, 10th place Everton. Not Peps city who should want the English pirlo, no Everton who play punt and run. Thanks for the laughs guys. No Bias, just recognise that he is a gifted player when fit. And you may rate Everton as a punt and run, but I think we are much more than that and want to see us being linked with players like this. Watch him a few times and you will see he is a box to box player who is always looking to receive a ball and play forward. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 https://www.clubcall.com/premier-league/arsenal/juve-join-wilshere-race.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 I'd like it if he came here, but I could see him doing really well in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Would prefer Ramsey I think pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 17/03/2018 at 14:13, markjazzbassist said: The English bias is so strong. Because he can thread some passes he’s now xavi and Real Madrid and Barca could be calling: laughable, he was at Bournemouth last campaign. That’s his level. Notice we are linked, 10th place Everton. Not Peps city who should want the English pirlo, no Everton who play punt and run. Thanks for the laughs guys. Talking shit. English bias? The top level footballing talented midfielders like scholes, Carrick, le tissier, hoddle won a fraction of the England caps that they would have won if we had managers who harnessed that talent rather than playing the likes of Henderson, Steve stones, Terry fenwick, ince, ahead of them. The likes of zidane and xavi laughed their tits off that paul scholes retired from England when he would have been first name on their respective countries team sheets. No one is saying wilshere is xavi.... what we are saying is that an injury free wilshere is a superb footballer who pisses on anything we have in terms of pure football ability and brain. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, hafnia said: Talking shit. English bias? The top level footballing talented midfielders like scholes, Carrick, le tissier, hoddle won a fraction of the England caps that they would have won if we had managers who harnessed that talent rather than playing the likes of Henderson, Steve stones, Terry fenwick, ince, ahead of them. The likes of zidane and xavi laughed their tits off that paul scholes retired from England when he would have been first name on their respective countries team sheets. No one is saying wilshere is xavi.... what we are saying is that an injury free wilshere is a superb footballer who pisses on anything we have in terms of pure football ability and brain. an injury free wilshere doesn't exist, so that "good footballer" doesn't exist. we spunked on junk this summer, i want healthy players of quality who can play a whole campagin. we already have mccarthy the injury prone CM, don't need another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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