johnh Posted September 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 On 28/09/2018 at 08:08, holystove said: Replace Corbyn with Starmer, get rid of Abbott and McDonnell and Labour would have a lot more traction with middle of the ground voters.. the ones that gave Blair his huge majorities. Tbh, I don't see how there is going to be a new election before 2022. Tories wouldn't dare risk a Corbyn government by calling one now. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, Bailey said: If Labour had a proper leader they would be destroying the Tories in the polls. The Tories couldnt be in a worse position at the moment. Hell even if the Lib Dems had a Clegg or Kennedy at the helm they could have potentially take a large swell of voters from the main 2 parties. Vince Cable is way more of an attraction than Clegg or Kennedy imo; old school who'd put the country ahead of personal ambition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, MikeO said: Vince Cable is way more of an attraction than Clegg or Kennedy imo; old school who'd put the country ahead of personal ambition. Really? Lib Dems need young and new voters and I dont see why anyone would vote for Cable. He is old (for a modern day elected PM), uncharasmatic and he was a part of the disasterous (for the Lib Dems) coalition. I do mean a heyday Clegg or Kennedy not a nowaday version! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 10 hours ago, MikeO said: Vince Cable is way more of an attraction than Clegg or Kennedy imo; old school who'd put the country ahead of personal ambition. Bailey is right mate Vince Cable is far too old to be a serious contender to win the minds and hearts of most of the population, he's even to old for me and I'm 59 a very young 59 if I may add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Bailey said: Really? Lib Dems need young and new voters and I dont see why anyone would vote for Cable. He is old (for a modern day elected PM), uncharasmatic and he was a part of the disasterous (for the Lib Dems) coalition. I do mean a heyday Clegg or Kennedy not a nowaday version! He's dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: He's dead. Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted September 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 54 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: He's dead. But would still give Cable a run for his money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Lovely bunch https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/outrage-tory-uni-society-picture-13350145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 https://evolvepolitics.com/watch-tory-mp-inadvertently-reveals-how-her-own-party-sneak-through-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-video/ Fuck me, swear most tory followers are like man u fans. Don't watch/understand the game but support them because they tend to win and the media love them. Palfy, Matt, rubecula and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, pete0 said: https://evolvepolitics.com/watch-tory-mp-inadvertently-reveals-how-her-own-party-sneak-through-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-video/ Fuck me, swear most tory followers are like man u fans. Don't watch/understand the game but support them because they tend to win and the media love them. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Some "could be worse off" under universal credit, admits Esther McVey - but Work and Pensions Secretary says benefits changes are helping more people into work maybe I am going deaf or daft but I never heard her say that, I heard that people are going into work and therefore will not need the same level of benefits not the same thing at all. I really wish journalists would post/print/broadcast accurately, if they did that we would not be in the political death throes that brexit has put some people in and we may all agree on whether we should remain. we need good honest reporting and screw political alliances between parties and media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 41 minutes ago, rubecula said: I really wish journalists would post/print/broadcast accurately Their job wold be easier if politicians did likewise. The media is heavily weighted to the right unfortunately, UC is criminal, forcing people who aren't capable of work into applying for work they have no chance of getting/doing. Total fucking disgrace. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45824590 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Left or right makes no difference to me Mike, I would really like to see a journalist not be a bigot when interviewing a politician, instead of forcing the issue, let them fuck it up themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 https://www.thelondoneconomic.com Time to boycott Cadbury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 hours ago, pete0 said: https://www.thelondoneconomic.com Time to boycott Cadbury? why? Pete I saw nothing about Cadbury on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, rubecula said: why? Pete I saw nothing about Cadbury on there That's annoying. Should've been a link to Cadbury making more profits than every yet paying nothing in tax (they even managed to get a credit!) https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/cadbury-care-workers-and-the-conservative-party-con/15/10/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: That's annoying. Should've been a link to Cadbury making more profits than every yet paying nothing in tax (they even managed to get a credit!) https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/cadbury-care-workers-and-the-conservative-party-con/15/10/ sounds like every american company. and yet the bailey's of the world want to give them more bailouts and tax cuts and make the people pay more. madness. people > companies pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: sounds like every american company. and yet the bailey's of the world want to give them more bailouts and tax cuts and make the people pay more. madness. people > companies Cadbury was bought out by Kraft in a hostile takeover a few years back nothing really to do with Cadbury I feel, more likely to be Kraft skimming off the top. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Capitalism sucks! https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/17/economic-lies-neoliberalism-taxpayers?CMP=share_btn_fb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, pete0 said: Capitalism sucks! https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/17/economic-lies-neoliberalism-taxpayers?CMP=share_btn_fb Good article but it’s not to late to do something about it vote for Labour re-buy our services re own our country and future. pete0 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 One to make @Cornish Steve proud https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/11/02/did-a-resigning-government-minister-just-admit-tory-policy-is-controlled-by-special-interests/?fbclid=IwAR0yNcvAudZ0sE5AvdrOF-lmvxtwfHtFLF6OmStZGd1hpo0X6seZb6otxUM Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: One to make @Cornish Steve proud https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/11/02/did-a-resigning-government-minister-just-admit-tory-policy-is-controlled-by-special-interests/?fbclid=IwAR0yNcvAudZ0sE5AvdrOF-lmvxtwfHtFLF6OmStZGd1hpo0X6seZb6otxUM Follow the money. It usually uncovers the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/02/david-cameron-return-politics-entitlement?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR25VMg-TXz3QS_FyP-zt0RANHLi-DuLHd25ToD6VwkVJeB1do0c8Hljrio David Cameron wants back in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/02/david-cameron-return-politics-entitlement?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR25VMg-TXz3QS_FyP-zt0RANHLi-DuLHd25ToD6VwkVJeB1do0c8Hljrio David Cameron wants back in... Like Owen Jones a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Like Owen Jones a lot. Little unsure on him myself he seemed to be on the anti Corbyn bandwagon and then changed his tune when he saw supporting him as an opportunity to increase his own name, well that or he genuinely had a change of heart. Agree with a lot he says but just don't know if he's genuine or just a career journalist. https://order-order.com/2017/06/12/10-times-owen-jones-betrayed-corbyn/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/02/david-cameron-return-politics-entitlement?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR25VMg-TXz3QS_FyP-zt0RANHLi-DuLHd25ToD6VwkVJeB1do0c8Hljrio David Cameron wants back in... That utter cunt should be in jail for what he’s done. Edit: not cunt, they’re useful pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted November 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 The Triumvirate of Blair, Clegg and Cameron should never be let anywhere near politics for the rest of their naturals. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 I can’t post my feelings on the subject without getting to outrageous so I’ll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Little unsure on him myself he seemed to be on the anti Corbyn bandwagon and then changed his tune when he saw supporting him as an opportunity to increase his own name, well that or he genuinely had a change of heart. Agree with a lot he says but just don't know if he's genuine or just a career journalist. https://order-order.com/2017/06/12/10-times-owen-jones-betrayed-corbyn/ Just going by what I've seen of him, wasn't aware of any history between him and Corbyn. Also I don't see how... “Jeremy Corbyn, a person who will never win a British general election… I know him personally and I know he never wanted to be leader; It was presented as a sense of obligation. He never anticipated this result and now leads the party without having any experience.” (Contexto y Accion, November 2016) ...can be used as an example of a "betrayal". It's an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, johnh said: The Triumvirate of Blair, Clegg and Cameron should never be let anywhere near politics for the rest of their naturals. No idea who clegg is but Blair and Cameron I agree wth. They are on the level of George bush and trump as to how awful they are. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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