Tonsta Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Dont we all get a vote in a few years if we dont like him, or is it brexit thats driving this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tonsta said: Dont we all get a vote in a few years if we dont like him, or is it brexit thats driving this discussion. Brexit is a side issue to this and has its own thread; the issue currently in this one is whether the new PM (whoever it may be) is being decided upon in a democratic fashion or not. Certainly there'll be an opportunity in 2022 (at the latest) for the whole electorate to have their say but, as I see it, the next one is going to be imposed on us with 99.73% of us having no say, the caveat that we'll be able to put it right in three years carries no weight with me. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, MikeO said: Brexit is a side issue to this and has its own thread; the issue currently in this one is whether the new PM (whoever it may be) is being decided upon in a democratic fashion or not. Certainly there'll be an opportunity in 2022 (at the latest) for the whole electorate to have their say but, as I see it, the next one is going to be imposed on us with 99.73% of us having no say, the caveat that we'll be able to put it right in three years carries no weight with me. And also this newly elected PM who like you say 99.73% have no say in is going to preside over one of the biggest decisions this country has probably faced since WWll which will possibly effect 100% of the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, johnh said: Yes, me too. Don't want to fall out 'cos if we ever meet up you won't buy me a beer! He’s always good for that, don’t worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted June 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Matt said: He’s always good for that, don’t worry Politics comes a very poor second to what we share on here - lifetime supporters of Everton. Will make my day whenever I meet fellow Toffee's. Cornish Steve the only one so far. What a memorable day that was. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 12 hours ago, johnh said: Politics comes a very poor second to what we share on here - lifetime supporters of Everton. Will make my day whenever I meet fellow Toffee's. Cornish Steve the only one so far. What a memorable day that was. Very true. The only reason we can have difficult discussions is because of that link - it’s the only online platform I know where there is a mutual respect (for the most part) and that allows us all to speak honestly even when there’s clear disagreements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Matt said: Very true. The only reason we can have difficult discussions is because of that link - it’s the only online platform I know where there is a mural respect (for the most part) and that allows us all to speak honestly even when there’s clear disagreements Wow, there's a whole mural?! Truly spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Wow, there's a whole mural?! Truly spectacular. Fucking autocorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Wow, there's a whole mural?! Truly spectacular. He's just looking at the bigger picture . Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/toriess-attempts-avoid-general-election-reveals-their-contempt-democracy?fbclid=IwAR3U_uFQSBCtECJe8NILowpaL8srVf8hGvEy5FQy3Q7Mrp8F4Wa10hL1iCs Article on how Scotland is being well and truly fucked over with this sham of an election. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/i-never-understood-the-campaign-for-an-independent-scotland-until-now/15/06/amp/?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR3anVdDfJCDL4sKucw7w-R71uqrZ9p32v_FN5-LAL0nA7u35uCgWE_pIqg MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Survey of Tory members: The one-nation-tory is dead. It is now the destroy-the-union-for-a-unicorn party. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Can see the people rising to force change if the tories stay in power much longer. If we were a third world country another country would have stood in by now. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/grenfell-survivors-beam-message-onto-parliament-two-years-on-a4169441.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0oAIjTYODGWKvjnu3wg4rBDtQFYBf44XAK4PuLpCeI0j96hpfa_N01V6g#Echobox=1560836821 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/18/tv-debate-bbc-boris-johnson-sajid-javid-jeremy-hunt-michael-gove-rory-stewart-jonathan-freedland?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2jsWl45CNnh-SdSsnbn1YDxyASnsk5BGiHBy5xoNfb8JOFJlAEt2bldHI#Echobox=1560897565 Article about the debate between the five left in the running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 9 hours ago, pete0 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/18/tv-debate-bbc-boris-johnson-sajid-javid-jeremy-hunt-michael-gove-rory-stewart-jonathan-freedland?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2jsWl45CNnh-SdSsnbn1YDxyASnsk5BGiHBy5xoNfb8JOFJlAEt2bldHI#Echobox=1560897565 Article about the debate between the five left in the running. The article could be just a few words in all honesty - five men go lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 What an absolute moron. Caller tells Hunt he won't get any votes from the NHS but then goes on to say they don't want Corbyn they still want a Tory. There's no such thing as a good tory for the NHS. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/iain-dale/furious-gp-jeremy-hunt-no-one-nhs-vote-for-him/?fbclid=IwAR2lAMG6MmEl6PXQiV_71qAtKFpaM99rIogrPBwnFf7GqfTmYjZMdzfrhuU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, pete0 said: What an absolute moron. Caller tells Hunt he won't get any votes from the NHS but then goes on to say they don't want Corbyn they still want a Tory. There's no such thing as a good tory for the NHS. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/iain-dale/furious-gp-jeremy-hunt-no-one-nhs-vote-for-him/?fbclid=IwAR2lAMG6MmEl6PXQiV_71qAtKFpaM99rIogrPBwnFf7GqfTmYjZMdzfrhuU There’s no such thing as a good Tory. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 My prediction of Dumb and Dumber running the UK and USA a couple of years ago wasn’t supposed to come true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hunt pips Gove by two votes, 77 to 75. Boris somehow managing to get 150. The elite will now get to pick between the two of them. https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/tory-leadership-contest-final-vote-result-boris-johnson-michael-gove-jeremy-hunt/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=ijp &fbclid=IwAR23fFdW4S85bZpeeZHljSWuoecaDjTiOCObdZOdbqm2XQSUFoY-QXhCceU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: There’s no such thing as a good Tory. There is no such thing as a good politician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Matt said: My prediction of Dumb and Dumber running the UK and USA a couple of years ago wasn’t supposed to come true! keep yer gob shut in future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Yet another Tory MP being cunt. https://news.sky.com/story/tory-mp-mark-field-under-fire-after-grabbing-protester-by-neck-11745967?fbclid=IwAR2vB8NjXXEGYxd4O0364O6sBZjE5LOBjRv18jQFYg9TiDHJiuhghOY6330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Country is in an absolute mess. Scary times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, hafnia said: Country is in an absolute mess. Scary times. World in general rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Another Tory fuckwit. Surely in that position you should be done for fraud for creating invoices to claim expenses from a public office. Should have been in prison nevermind needed a petition to remove him from his seat. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chris-davies-tory-mp-brecon-radnorshire-by-election-expenses-invoice-a8968666.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3imiOabyam9y7k1G3k1Q8rWpfJiKcaSpNWIf56edSzuV19OR1m_TW8E-M#Echobox=1561113646 An another one. Homeless minister who is contempt when it comes to... homeless people. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/20/homelessness-minister-accused-of-racist-remarks-in-email?fbclid=IwAR2etLFR9M6GenmzoOQcbRMOZpaqmIXR7rGxC2oHeeRJJKdkWRndGjEEid4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 She is spot on when she tells him he doesn’t care for money or anything, that’s why it will be such a disaster if he becomes our next PM, he will try and walk this country down the road to financial oblivion with out a care or concern for anyone or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 On 26/05/2019 at 17:46, MikeO said: Yes he's done some decent humanitarian stuff abroad as well but still cut from the same cloth as the rest of them. Never experienced applying for Universal Credit I wouldn't think, or working on a zero hours contract or getting by on minimum wage. facepalm.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 The next party in power need to ring fence the NHS. The founders nephew has passed away with the NHS holding the blame for neglect. That family was probably proud as day that they could point to the NHS and that's been completely tarnished for them and worst their family member has died without getting the full chance he should have. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-founder-nye-bevans-great-17009208?fbclid=IwAR0SOKuYN0FDnynzGIyWdom9c5mTGpriwALTFxCeCR9ROx80OcOIKGOGyBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 I know the media love him but this is a stretch too far. Tory journalists trying to shame the neighbours of Boris wafflecopter for reporting the domestic abuse. https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2019/06/24/the-secret-barrister-dismantles-the-suggestion-that-boris-johnsons-neighbours-broke-the-law/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, pete0 said: I know the media love him but this is a stretch too far. Tory journalists trying to shame the neighbours of Boris wafflecopter for reporting the domestic abuse. https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2019/06/24/the-secret-barrister-dismantles-the-suggestion-that-boris-johnsons-neighbours-broke-the-law/ I have no argument against them reporting it to the police that should be the done thing, but after the police had been and found nothing to worry about that should have been it finished. To find that they not only taped it but then gave it to a Newspaper for either some money or just to get some publicity for themselves, a bit mercenary if you ask me and not somebody I would class as "good Neighbours". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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