johnh Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Integrity is not much good if it is accompanied by poor judgement. If Corbyn won, we would have Diane Abbott as Home Secretary. The mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Better than no integrity and poor judgement. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Integrity is not much good if it is accompanied by poor judgement. If Corbyn won, we would have Diane Abbott as Home Secretary. The mind boggles. This is what I fear with him, any sane person wouldn't have her within miles of the front line of any party especially at such an important time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 A woman who will not debate her rival fit to lead this country and get the best possible deal for the country from the EU? Nah. The woman and her party are showing that they are incompetent liars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Integrity is not much good if it is accompanied by poor judgement. If Corbyn won, we would have Diane Abbott as Home Secretary. The mind boggles. No guarantee of that, just because she's shadow doesn't necessarily mean she'd get the job in the event of a Labour win. (Personally I think Screaming Lord Sutch would be a step up from Johnson though, and he's been dead for nearly twenty years) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Johnson isn't responsible for security of the country though. Abbott refused to answer the question 'are you proud to be British'. The chances of Corbyn not appointing her Home Secretary are zero. She is, after all, an 'ex' of Corbyn, which in itself speaks volumes about his 'judgement', (not to mention 'eyesight'). If it ever comes about, I will be investing in a survival bunker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Johnson isn't responsible for security of the country though. Abbott refused to answer the question 'are you proud to be British'. The chances of Corbyn not appointing her Home Secretary are zero. She is, after all, an 'ex' of Corbyn, which in itself speaks volumes about his 'judgement', (not to mention 'eyesight'). If it ever comes about, I will be investing in a survival bunker. Survival bunker v May as PM? Tough one. I'll take the survival bunker. I'd have a huge problem answering the, "Are you proud to be British?" question just now. Actually I wouldn't, it'd be a flat out "no". Actually (third edit) on reflection yes I am proud to be British but I'm ashamed of a very significant proportion of my countrymen, so it's a dilemma. Probably similar to the anti-Trump Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 When I'm abroad and get asked by someone where I come from, usually Americans because they seem to think with my accent that I'm Australian, which is understandable because most of English dialogue they hear from this country on their televisions, is what I call the newsreaders accent. Anyway when I'm asked I never refer to myself as coming from the UK or being British, I always say I'm from England or I'm English, in all fairness Britain isn't United there are probably just as many people in the four countries that make up the UK who want independence for their country from the union, so I'm not proud to be British but I am to be English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) When I'm abroad and get asked by someone where I come from, usually Americans because they seem to think with my accent that I'm Australian, which is understandable because most of English dialogue they hear from this country on their televisions, is what I call the newsreaders accent. Anyway when I'm asked I never refer to myself as coming from the UK or being British, I always say I'm from England or I'm English, in all fairness Britain isn't United there are probably just as many people in the four countries that make up the UK who want independence for their country from the union, so I'm not proud to be British but I am to be English. Also a lot of the "English" accents are actually American actors doing an English accent, which is usually half English half Australian. Truth be told I can barely tell the difference. I can't tell the difference between an Indian accent and Pakistani one either, maybe you English can since they used to be part of the empire. Tell you what. Some brits can nail the American accent, idris Elba in the wire I thought he was from Baltimore I saw him on a talk show and thought how in the hell? I thought he was joking until I looked it up. Hell of an actor there. Edited May 30, 2017 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Also a lot of the "English" accents are actually American actors doing an English accent, which is usually half English half Australian. Truth be told I can barely tell the difference. I can't tell the difference between an Indian accent and Pakistani one either, maybe you English can since they used to be part of the empire. Tell you what. Some brits can nail the American accent, idris Elba in the wire I thought he was from Baltimore I saw him on a talk show and thought how in the hell? I thought he was joking until I looked it up. Hell of an actor there. To be honest Mark if an Indian and a Pakistani had a conversation with me I wouldn't have a clue which was which based solely on their accents, can you tell the difference from all of the American accents from the Canadian accent, if someone from Seattle spoke to me they may as well come from Vancouver to me they would sound the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 YouGov currently predicting hung parliament... https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/ May will be pooping her pants, hopefully she'll be savaged for not turning up for the live debate tonight and lose a bit more support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 YouGov currently predicting hung parliament... https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/ May will be pooping her pants, hopefully she'll be savaged for not turning up for the live debate tonight and lose a bit more support. She should lose the election just for that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 How the fuck anyone can vote those Tories in? Embarrassing. There is only one person in this debate with any class or sincerity... Paul nuttall needs walking off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I like the way the Lib Dem guys talks. Jezza for me everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I like the way the Lib Dem guys talks. Jezza for me everyday. He was quite close to corbyn on a lot of things.... he spoke a lot of sense. Corbyn is pure class though. Ive always been pretty much apolitical...rudd is detestable. Anyone think Labour can do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 My forecast is a Tory 60 seat majority. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 My forecast is a Tory 60 seat majority.That's the scariest thing I've heard this year, god help us if your right John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Think the media Tory bias is too strong. Think the Tories will do it just. If people just heard what shite they chat and the wobbles they've had. You'd think Mr Blobby would make a more credible candiate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hung parliament for me Labour to form a government in a coalition with Lib Dems I hope. Theresa May forced to leave country. Johnson and Gove executed. Tory party disbanded. If only dreams can come true, what a better country we could be living in. aaron and Johnsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 My forecast is a Tory 60 seat majority. Yeah, that seems perfectly normal where they are expected to garner about 43% of the vote. /sarcasmo 0_o Say what you like about the Electoral College system at least it evens up the field a bit between the haves and the have less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 She should lose the election just for that alone. this is not a parody: full story here: http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/three-minutes-of-nothing-herald-reporter-reflects-on-pm-encounter/story-30363961-detail/story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 The thought of the Lib Dems having any sort of power again after being little bitches to the Conservatives last time out pisses me off, but the Conservatives being in total power again is scary, so I'd find a way to be ok with it if a deal was needed to be made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 The thought of the Lib Dems having any sort of power again after being little bitches to the Conservatives last time out pisses me off, but the Conservatives being in total power again is scary, so I'd find a way to be ok with it if a deal was needed to be made! Have this discussion with my wife all the time because she's of the same opinion, while I maintain that the Lib Dems being in bed with them curbed their worst excesses during that parliament (at great cost to themselves). The Tories have been infinitely worse since they got their overall majority in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Have this discussion with my wife all the time because she's of the same opinion, while I maintain that the Lib Dems being in bed with them curbed their worst excesses during that parliament (at great cost to themselves). The Tories have been infinitely worse since they got their overall majority in 2015. I suppose I just feel a bit betrayed by them, Mike, because I voted for them on that occasion. If I hadn't then I'd probably not feel animosity towards them. As it is I will never vote for them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I suppose I just feel a bit betrayed by them, Mike, because I voted for them on that occasion. If I hadn't then I'd probably not feel animosity towards them. As it is I will never vote for them again. Fair enough, it's a widely held opinion even in my house; although pretty sure my wife didn't actually vote for them back then, she's always Labour or Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I suppose I just feel a bit betrayed by them, Mike, because I voted for them on that occasion. If I hadn't then I'd probably not feel animosity towards them. As it is I will never vote for them again. Same here, I was a student at the time and they promised the earth to students, but Mike is right with the "they curbed the Tories". If they get 5 more years of full control then god help us all, or will they that too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 My forecast is a Tory 60 seat majority. Wouldnt the best result for the Conservative Party be a small majority? Big enough to govern alone but small enough to undermine May and get a better party leader? Surely, if the Tory majority is smaller than they have now, this is on her and she has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Wouldnt the best result for the Conservative Party be a small majority? Big enough to govern alone but small enough to undermine May and get a better party leader? Surely, if the Tory majority is smaller than they have now, this is on her and she has to go. Who's better than may? They're all useless silver spoon cunts. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Edited June 2, 2017 by Chach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Who's better than may? They're all useless silver spoon cunts. Conservative Party is big enough to have at least a few capable people? Even if you disagree with someone from a political point of view, you can still respect their intellectual capabilities. This Paris Agreement thing (where every other First World leader has, at the very least, expressed regret over Trumps decision) is another indication that she doesn't have what it takes to be PM. Events happen too quickly for her, she needs too much time to think and can therefor only express herself in meaningless, hollow ways. Edited June 2, 2017 by holystove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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