jofanon Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Morgan S Gueye Lookman Davies McCarthy Miralles Barry Klaassen Maybe... Barkley Geri Sigurddson How on earth are we going to look in midfield next year? I'm assume Gueye, Morgan and Klaasen are on nailed on starters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Think Davies could be in with Gueye and Morgan, Klaasen might be played further up, behind or alongside the striker. Thats only my opinion, but we are beginning to get some very good options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 New formation, 2-7-1; going to be revolutionary! holystove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 This is exactly what we need. Top quality players fighting for their right to wear the shirt. If they have the right personality, they'll thrive. No room for complacency from 2017/18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Davies Schneiderlin McCarthy ______Klaassen__________Mirallas Full backs to provide width and Mirallas to switch to the opposite wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) GK RB CB CB LB Klaassen Schneiderlin Gana Barkley Lukaku mirallas Davies rotate with klaassen Barry rotate with Morgan McCarthy and besic to rotate with gana Sandro rotate anywhere across front 3 Bolasie and lookman to rotate with mirallas or barkley 433 Barca Dutch style . Morgan lies deep, other 2 mids more advanced Edited June 28, 2017 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Mirallas and Barry are the weak links, and I don't see a future for them TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Besic and McCarthy may become bit part players, but they bring aggression and true grit - and that's absolutely needed against some teams. This is a nice problem to have BTW. Games are won and lost in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Mirallas will be sold, Besic possibly, Barry doesn't play much. I suspect McCarthy might also be gone by end of August depending on who we sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 In a 433 my starting 3 in the middle would be Davies Schneiderlin and Klaassen. For me playing Gana and Schneiderlin together becomes to defensive and we struggle to create, they are both very much holding midfielders so together it becomes very negative. With Davies you have a lad who presses well and takes the game to them, admittedly not the finished article, but if he gets the opportunities I think it will be a big season for him, and he could turn out to be big player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Depends on opponents and whether playing home or away really. And there will be lots of two-match weeks if we qualify for EL so there should be enough games Schneiderlin/Gana/Davies/Klaassen/Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) From the OP list. I see McCarthy being sold. Barry hardly playing. Don't think Barkley will be here, nor Sigurddson coming in. So that would leave. CM/DM: Davies / Morgan / Gueye / Barry AM: Klaassen LAM: Lookman / Mirallas RAM: Deulofeu / Bolasie (who has been missed off by the OP! - £28m winger ) So we still need central attacking options IMO. IF Barkley stays, he fills that role. Pickford Defender - Defender - Defender - Defender Morgan - Gueye Klaassen Mirallas - Striker - Bolasie Edited June 29, 2017 by Lowensda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 CF's the missing link isn't it? Wonder who we have in mind to replace rom. I very much doubt he will leave until we have already agreed terms with a replacement (like the Stones deal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisJD Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 December 2019. The Everton midfield is depleted. What is the answer in January. Recruit, or wait on the injuries? My view is Gomes is 12 months from fully match fit, and 18 months from the player we love. We need another star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 gomes - out for season gbamin - should be coming back soon or like now? delph - he will always be injured, it's his nature, i was against this signing and this is why. gylfi - was ill i think he will be back and fine. davies - fit and playing already beni - fit and ready to go, i'd like to see more of him i really hope gbamin is fit soon and ready to play, i think he could offer a lot as a CM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, DavisJD said: December 2019. The Everton midfield is depleted. What is the answer in January. Recruit, or wait on the injuries? My view is Gomes is 12 months from fully match fit, and 18 months from the player we love. We need another star. The way I look at this is if we are trying to get into the top 4, which is good enough week in week out to play at that level. We aren't bringing in Ancellotti to keep us below that level. 1.Siggy is but he is at the wrong end of his career 2. Gomes is on the cusp but he has too many bad games to be properly at that level and who knows how he will come back. 3. Schneiderlin isn't. 4. Davies isn't. 5. Gbamin is an unknown. 6. Delph isn't. 7. Beni isn't. 8. Besic isn't. 9. No-one else is. I would like to think we will go out and recruit and start moving on those who don't have a chance, with the exception of Davies who is a handy player to have around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: beni - fit and ready to go, i'd like to see more of him Is Beni fit? Has not featured for the first team or the u23s since his injury. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'd be quite happy to leave Holgate in midfield till bgamin was fit tbh, buy a top centre half and a top striker and we should be OK. badaids, Palfy and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, plaidharper said: Is Beni fit? Has not featured for the first team or the u23s since his injury. apparently not then lol. i didn't know he was injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 19 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: apparently not then lol. i didn't know he was injured You always crack me up! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Beni did well in a couple of cameos two years ago, if he was good enough he would have been pushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, StevO said: Beni did well in a couple of cameos two years ago, if he was good enough he would have been pushing. i know you don't rate him ste. it's ok. he's still young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: i know you don't rate him ste. it's ok. he's still young. It’s not that I don’t rate him. I’ve watched every minute that he’s played for the first team, I don’t understand how anyone can rate him? I’ve got no opinion of the lad at all because he’s done nothing to show me he’s good or bad, other than one big tackle really. His managers haven’t rated him enough to play him, they see him every day. I don’t get how anyone can think he’s ready for the first team when the guys who make that decision don’t think the same. I love the positivity you have around the young players Mark, maybe that’s due to the massive influence of the drafts in the US showing prospects make it, but in the premier league it just doesn’t happen. The fact we have Tom Davies in our first team bucks the trend. Most of them (95% the last time I saw a stat) don’t make it at top level. Even DCL, we bought him, players rarely come through and make it in the PL. If a player gets to 21, like Beni, and isn’t pushing for a first team place chances are it’s too late. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 ...and let's be honest, Tom Davies is only in there because of injuries. MC11 and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 On 18/12/2019 at 17:42, Bailey said: The way I look at this is if we are trying to get into the top 4, which is good enough week in week out to play at that level. We aren't bringing in Ancellotti to keep us below that level. 1.Siggy is but he is at the wrong end of his career 2. Gomes is on the cusp but he has too many bad games to be properly at that level and who knows how he will come back. 3. Schneiderlin isn't. 4. Davies isn't. 5. Gbamin is an unknown. 6. Delph isn't. 7. Beni isn't. 8. Besic isn't. 9. No-one else is. I would like to think we will go out and recruit and start moving on those who don't have a chance, with the exception of Davies who is a handy player to have around. At what point in his career has Sigurdsson ever been good enough for Top 4?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, StevO said: 59 minutes ago, StevO said: I love the positivity you have around the young players Mark, maybe that’s due to the massive influence of the drafts in the US showing prospects make it, but in the premier league it just doesn’t happen. The fact we have Tom Davies in our first team bucks the trend. Most of them (95% the last time I saw a stat) don’t make it at top level. Even DCL, we bought him, players rarely come through and make it in the PL. If a player gets to 21, like Beni, and isn’t pushing for a first team place chances are it’s too late. Apart from all the academy graduates playing for Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd right now. Even Spurs have two in Kane and Winks, Liverpool one in Alexander-Arnold. So not sure how Davies 'bucks the trend'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, nogs said: At what point in his career has Sigurdsson ever been good enough for Top 4?? not sure if this is a joke, he was a spurs and played for them. plenty good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 It’s been evident for a number of years we needed a box to box midfielder with an eye for goal. Obviously there isn’t many about and they cost mega dough. The shite don’t rotate massively if they are the bench mark so gilfi, Morgan would be moved on if possible to get a quality midfielder. Let’s face it Carlo must know so many players after managing the top clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, nogs said: Apart from all the academy graduates playing for Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd right now. Even Spurs have two in Kane and Winks, Liverpool one in Alexander-Arnold. So not sure how Davies 'bucks the trend'. So each team has 20 or so lads in the under 23s team, one player making it into the first team from that is a tiny minority. If we didn’t have so many injured midfielders we wouldn’t even have Davies playing. How many prospects have we had that have made it in the last 20 years? Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley and Davies? If one player makes it that’s great but it’s not the norm. If Chelsea didn’t have a transfer ban these kids don’t get in their team. United have Rashford, but would the others get in if they weren’t so all over the place? Liverpool are the best team in the league and they have one, just one. Spurs bucked the trend due to the great work Poch did. City have Foden, that kid is an exceptional talent and hopefully he makes it, but they don’t have more of them lined up. Kids don’t come through in the premier league at any decent rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Good points. Most teams have one or two every few years. Look at grealish, wan bissaka who are the exception rather than the rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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