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My only gripe with him is he can be a little selfish but bar that he's been one of our better more positive players who always tends to be a threat 

Good player generally puts a good shift in he just needs to release the ball more at times 

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26 minutes ago, Matt said:

Strikers are naturally selfish. If he makes the pass and it’s screwed up or intercepted, he’s get grief for not shooting...

True I do agree with that but he's done it to many times imo 

Not overly arsed about it though tbh as I do take into account that side of a players game but if he did pick a player out from time to time then he'd do himself far more justice 

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I'm happy to have him here as I think he gets the club. Yes he definitely can be selfish, going alone when a pass might give a better goal scoring opportunity but let's go back to an old mantra "in Marco we trust".

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Is he that good of a finisher (not just in the team as Shukes says but generally)? I thought he was when he was at Arsenal but I think he has been a little disappointing in that regard too.

I actually think his general work rate is good and that is the thing that has impressed me about him. He almost always gets back into position and defends his "zone" but he then doesnt commit to tracking his man or put a tackle in. The latter I kind of understand given his injury record.

He does remind me a lot of Lukaku in the way he plays. Walcott covers a lot more ground but he plays within himself a lot and you will get the same arguments regarding production and attitude. Regardless of whatever I think about his attitude though he is still one of the best 4 attackers in the side (those that played at the weekend) but IMO his place is the most up for grabs.

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29 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

He’s a shit finisher. I don’t know where that misconception comes from. He needs 3 or 4 chances to put one away. 

Granted, when he does score they’re usually nice finishes. 

On the weekend, that turn on the half volley was incredible - then the finish was the easy part and he rolled it down the middle. Would have been an incredible goal mind you.

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Let's see where he is at in the summer. Give the lad a season to kick on and integrate into the new style of play and with new attacking faces along side him on the pitch.

 

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I don’t really understand the shouts about his attitude. He’s an aggressive winger who’s asked to use his pace to get in behind and stretch defences quite often during a game; of course he’s not always going to be able to get back to help out in defence, but he still does his fair share. 

My bigger issue with him is always going to be his lack of technique and, to a lesser extent, his finishing/final ball. But I still think the positives definitely out balance the negatives and, worst comes to worst, he’s still an excellent impact sub off the bench. 

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2 hours ago, Shukes said:

As far as wingers go, what is his goal scoring record like!

Is it as bad as people make out? 

Off the top of my head only the city and Liverpool wingers plus Hazard are notably better. Without checking the stats for all them I'd reckon he's in the top 10 if you factor for the minutes played, as he's 70 goals (plus 48 assists) in 272 games makes him one in four which is really good. His contribution is more than any winger we've had in the last 20 years. 

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2 hours ago, pete0 said:

Off the top of my head only the city and Liverpool wingers plus Hazard are notably better. Without checking the stats for all them I'd reckon he's in the top 10 if you factor for the minutes played, as he's 70 goals (plus 48 assists) in 272 games makes him one in four which is really good. His contribution is more than any winger we've had in the last 20 years.  

My thought's exsactly. Walcott has his flaws but the numbers he has speaks for itself. 118 combined in 272 is a great record for a winger and those goals/assists will be valuable for us. It works out a contribution every 2.3 games, great stuff. 

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20 hours ago, Bill said:

Unless they play Theo as the striker, it's what he's always wanted.

He definitely fancied that role at Arsenal so I guess he does here, but to be fair to him he plays regularly for us which he didn't at Arsenal and I think as long as he's in the team he's happy.

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2 hours ago, Aidan said:

My thought's exsactly. Walcott has his flaws but the numbers he has speaks for itself. 118 combined in 272 is a great record for a winger and those goals/assists will be valuable for us. It works out a contribution every 2.3 games, great stuff. 

That's cos those stats weren't always as a winger. He had a fair old number of games as a striker. 

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2 hours ago, hafnia said:

That's cos those stats weren't always as a winger. He had a fair old number of games as a striker. 

Was thinking about this the other day and I can't actually remember him playing that many games as an out and out striker. I may be wrong though.

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54 minutes ago, Aidan said:

Was thinking about this the other day and I can't actually remember him playing that many games as an out and out striker. I may be wrong though.

don't you remember when he said he wouldn't sign a new contract unless he was playing CF.  he was a major moaner at arsenal, part of the reason i didn't want him.  

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35 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

don't you remember when he said he wouldn't sign a new contract unless he was playing CF.  he was a major moaner at arsenal, part of the reason i didn't want him.  

Living in Gooner Land, most of the fans liked Theo, they just thought he was not consistent enough to be a striker, and suffered too many injuries.

He was not one of the moaners like Ozil.

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12 hours ago, London Blue said:

Living in Gooner Land, most of the fans liked Theo, they just thought he was not consistent enough to be a striker, and suffered too many injuries.

He was not one of the moaners like Ozil.

And Sanchez.

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1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

Where did that comment about Nasri come from? Has there been interest, because I haven't seen it. It seemed a rather random comment with which to close the article.

Daily mail article ran with it in the rumourama thread. Is odd that it's just plonked at the bottom of that article though. 

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1 minute ago, hafnia said:

Getting absolutely roasted on sky.  Rightly so.  

At fault for both goals. Shocking attitude. 

Pure fucking laziness for their second. I was fuming. It wouldn’t have even taken a lot of effort for him to get back either. 

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4 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Getting absolutely roasted on sky.  Rightly so.  

At fault for both goals. Shocking attitude. 

i think you and I Haf have been the only ones who haven't been enamored with him.  glad others are catching on.  

 

he needs to be benched immediately.  play lookman and DCL and anyone over him.

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2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

i think you and I Haf have been the only ones who haven't been enamored with him.  glad others are catching on.  

 

he needs to be benched immediately.  play lookman and DCL and anyone over him.

Oh he's a nice lad talks well and has scored some goals..... so fuckin what!   Every fuckin week he tottles back half arsed after losing the ball.

My dislike of Rom was for very similar things. I'm not gonna let him off cos he's s nice lad. Starting to piss me off now. 

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8 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Pure fucking laziness for their second. I was fuming. It wouldn’t have even taken a lot of effort for him to get back either. 

I seen these traits pretty quick... a few games in it was.

He can fuck right off if he thinks he's gonna pull that shit. Silva should have hooked him there and then.  Felt sorry for Bernard.  

Walcott seems to be on the bluff.... that little semi sprint towards martial when he seen him get the ball off pogba annoyed me.... He fuckin knew what he'd done. Coleman went nuts at him and I'm glad.

And he can fuck off with these "aim for top 4 and keep improving interviews" he can aim to put a shift in the lazy sod. Fumin

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I asked for one more chance with him, he hasn’t taken it. Lookman comes on and looks hungry, shows for the ball. 

Bernard and lookman have more fight in them than Theo at the moment. All 5”5 of them. 

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Did he get interviewed on Sky? That pisses me off if so, if we put him forward its wrong decision because he had a stinker, if Sky asked we should have told them to fuck off coz he's too busy getting a roasting from the manager. 

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3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i think you and I Haf have been the only ones who haven't been enamored with him.  glad others are catching on.  

 

he needs to be benched immediately.  play lookman and DCL and anyone over him.

Lookman looked a different player when he came on. Surprised how strong he looked on the ball.

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32 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

You could tell mou gameplay was attack our right with martial.  Coleman and Walcott were the weakness he and his staff had found.  Says everything right there

I could've told them that and they wouldn't have had to pay me £50,000 a week.

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5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i think you and I Haf have been the only ones who haven't been enamored with him.  glad others are catching on.  

 

he needs to be benched immediately.  play lookman and DCL and anyone over him.

To be fair, more than a few people said this before he was signed. I watched him do this regularly for Arsenal for years, turning up when he fancied it. I rememberred arguing that Chamberlain was the better player but almost everyone disagreed. 

Today, I actually thought he started quite well but he went backwards quickly. You can almost put up with some of the laziness if he adds that quality in the final 3rd but that is as sporadic as his effort.

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1 hour ago, Bailey said:

To be fair, more than a few people said this before he was signed. I watched him do this regularly for Arsenal for years, turning up when he fancied it. I rememberred arguing that Chamberlain was the better player but almost everyone disagreed. 

Today, I actually thought he started quite well but he went backwards quickly. You can almost put up with some of the laziness if he adds that quality in the final 3rd but that is as sporadic as his effort.

Yep i didn’t wAnt him here cause I saw that at arse as well.  Sad to be proven right.  Let’s hope lookman gets some time and Theo learns from his bench experience.

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I think it's time for Mola to have a crack on the right hand side. Something tells me he will take that chance too. 

A fired up Walcott ready to come on against tired legs in the later stages of a game isn'tt a bad thing either.

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Souness had him spot on.... at 29 when is he gonna learn?

Not in my opinion. His on pitch persona does not match his off pitch one.  Talks a cracking game.... doesnt look arsed

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19 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i think you and I Haf have been the only ones who haven't been enamored with him.  glad others are catching on.  

 

he needs to be benched immediately.  play lookman and DCL and anyone over him.

Nope. I’ve not been a supporter either. His standing around yesterday for their second goal displayed disinterest in being part of the team. He’s an individualist for sure, and that’s not what we need. 

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Still baffled by the hate towards him. He’s still one of our best players, he made no more wrong decisions than Richarlison or Bernard. Not the only player to have a poor game. 

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1 minute ago, StevO said:

Still baffled by the hate towards him. He’s still one of our best players, he made no more wrong decisions than Richarlison or Bernard. Not the only player to have a poor game. 

A poor game is maybe not getting passes to your player, not beating your man, skying a few shots. No one is having a go at him for that. It happens.

 

For weeks now this lad has been found bone idle in critical duties - he leaves us exposed due to laziness.  Unforgivable. I've spent years slating lukaku for that... I'm not a hypocrite..... any player who does that will get my annoyance.  Unacceptable. 

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Just now, hafnia said:

A poor game is maybe not getting passes to your player, not beating your man, skying a few shots. No one is having a go at him for that. It happens.

 

For weeks now this lad has been found bone idle in critical duties - he leaves us exposed due to laziness.  Unforgivable. I've spent years slating lukaku for that... I'm not a hypocrite..... any player who does that will get my annoyance.  Unacceptable. 

I don’t for one minute see this laziness. So I’ll just have to disagree. People are calling for him to be replaced by Lookman, the same kid only a few weeks ago was getting nailed for having a shit attitude and not looking interested. Mind blowing!

I wonder if we’ll ever see a time when Evertonians don’t have a player they need to hate. 

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15 minutes ago, hafnia said:

A poor game is maybe not getting passes to your player, not beating your man, skying a few shots. No one is having a go at him for that. It happens.

 

For weeks now this lad has been found bone idle in critical duties - he leaves us exposed due to laziness.  Unforgivable. I've spent years slating lukaku for that... I'm not a hypocrite..... any player who does that will get my annoyance.  Unacceptable. 

Haf, by all means criticize Theo's last couple of games as he has been poor. But why the hate? I mean he's an Everton player,  he has played well for the team, scored goals, created chances. 

Why do you have to have 1 player who you vent your spleen on?

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29 minutes ago, London Blue said:

Haf, by all means criticize Theo's last couple of games as he has been poor. But why the hate? I mean he's an Everton player,  he has played well for the team, scored goals, created chances. 

Why do you have to have 1 player who you vent your spleen on?

Hate?  I don't hate.

I'm intolerant of laziness/poor attitude  from footballers.

One player??? No. Throw mirralas, schneiderlein, lukaku, lookman into the mix and you will spot the theme. 

Sorry it doesn't quite fit the agenda of favouritism/fanboyism/boo boy ..... I dont roll that way.   

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49 minutes ago, StevO said:

I don’t for one minute see this laziness. So I’ll just have to disagree. People are calling for him to be replaced by Lookman, the same kid only a few weeks ago was getting nailed for having a shit attitude and not looking interested. Mind blowing!

I wonder if we’ll ever see a time when Evertonians don’t have a player they need to hate. 

Hopefully there will. Because for me that will be the time we have 11 players pulling together, covering for each other.  Not having passengers only looking for the team to play in a way that suits them. 

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1 hour ago, StevO said:

Still baffled by the hate towards him. He’s still one of our best players, he made no more wrong decisions than Richarlison or Bernard. Not the only player to have a poor game. 

Definitely don't hate him, but he's been poor the last few games. He still has an important part to play, it's just that Lookman looked energized and hungry when he has came on recently.

Also, Richarlison and Bernard aren't as culpable for the goals against us as Theo was, so they have a little slack there (also didn't think they had bad games).

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2 hours ago, hafnia said:

A poor game is maybe not getting passes to your player, not beating your man, skying a few shots. No one is having a go at him for that. It happens.

 

For weeks now this lad has been found bone idle in critical duties - he leaves us exposed due to laziness.  Unforgivable. I've spent years slating lukaku for that... I'm not a hypocrite..... any player who does that will get my annoyance.  Unacceptable. 

 

1 hour ago, hafnia said:

Hate?  I don't hate.

I'm intolerant of laziness/poor attitude  from footballers.

One player??? No. Throw mirralas, schneiderlein, lukaku, lookman into the mix and you will spot the theme. 

Sorry it doesn't quite fit the agenda of favouritism/fanboyism/boo boy ..... I dont roll that way.   

Except for Yakubu eh. 

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