markjazzbassist Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 welcome theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Both Allardyce and Walcott speak of Walcott as wanting to rejuvenate his career. Approaching 29, he’s in his prime age-wise, but not necessarily performance-wise. It’s all a maybe at the moment of signing. The 3 1/2 year contract does seem a decent bet by Everton, for the reason I mentioned above: Walcott is not solely interested in helping a club with “ambitions.” He’s equally, and understandably, ambitious - more like desperate - to find a spot in England’s WC squad. And whether he does or does not quite make it, he will retain ambition to find a spot in the EURO 2020 squad. So offering a contract past 2020 makes sense. The hope all around - player, teammates, club, fans - is that this gamble is wise rather than desperate. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Welcome Theo! Happy with this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/17/theo-walcott-arsenal-everton-lookman-vlasic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, EFC-Paul said: Seve every player has an injury record his most recent and prolonged ones being calf stains which have rarely had a long term negative impact on a players ability, if he'd been under the knife multiple times with ligament damage and such then I'd be worried Clearly you're not a fan but to suggest something with the deal isn'ttt right is no offence just rambling pure bollocks imo The lad has proven if kept fit he will get you goals and assists the stats don't lie Now thats he has signed i will be cheering with the rest of you, still have not changed my mind on him, and no need to get angry its only an opinion that clearly does not agree with you. EFC-Paul, markjazzbassist and Shukes 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/theo-walcott-reveals-how-wayne-14169722 rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bailey Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 10 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said: Walcott needs games. He needs a manager to show faith in him again and he needs to prove himself worthy of an England call up again. I think it will work out for him at Everton. God knows we need someone who will have a strike at goal. Our defensive issues are partly caused by our inability to mount an attack and that encourages the opposition to go forward and attack with impunity. Fans should absolutely be criticized for turning their nose up at Walcott. Who on earth do they think we are going to sign? Aubameyang? Ridiculous at times. I for one welcome Walcott to the side and hope he can regain some form as quickly as possible. If Walcott plays down the right as he suggested, our defence down the right hand side will suffer as he won't chip in. I don't see too many people simply turning their nose up at Walcott. Most of the views on here seem to be that he isn'tt going to help us have more shots on goal or more chances. He might have a great goal scoring record for Arsenal but they create more chances than most teams in Europe. If we can create the chances for him he will be a good signing but if we can't we are in the same position as we were before. 5 hours ago, hafnia said: Just had a meeting with an arsenal fan.... He's gutted to lose him. Much prefers walcott to owobi. Loads of pace, good finisher 1 on 1. Can' create his own chances but neither could our previous top scorer. I work with about 5 Arsenal fans and most are laughing their nuts off. He scores but does little else to effect the team. Imo we need team players more than a player like Walcott. Having said all that, he is here now and I hope he and Sam prove me wrong and can get him in position to put the ball into the back of the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 He's a good player in a team that have good possession of the ball that build up from the back with players that keep the ball on the ground and spend more time in the opponent's half, unless Allardyce is buying players to change his style of football and going for a more ball on the ground possession style with the emphasis on ball retention and more attacking, other wise I can see Walcott struggling in this Everton team where we set up to defend sit to deep and revert to long punts up the field, I don't think that will suit him and he could easily find it hard to get into game if isn'tt getting ball to feet that's what he's use to, like I said good player wrong manager for what he's used to. Bailey and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/17/theo-walcott-arsenal-everton-lookman-vlasic This is silly. Vlasic and Lookman are both barely 20. This spells no trouble for them at all. Neither is a wonderkid, but they're both obviously skilled players who can learn from a winger of Walcott's experience and take that role in 2-3 years. They're not polished enough yet to turn a team's fortunes around, as Walcott can hopefully contribute in such an effort. They'll be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, seve said: This bit concerns me no pace no player injury prone could be another Michael owen after his problems,every ones quoting what he has done in the past im only concerned about now. He can not get in there 2nd team, he is behind people who disobey club rules, something is wrong with this deal,not seen anything recent that says take a punt. The medical will have checked that he ain't broken seve. Don't worry about that. His pace is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 The way I look at it is this.... if Liverpool signed him for £20m I would be jealous. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Most SSP fans won’t rate him as they haven’t witnessed him play much. Those that have watched him will recognise his worth. This is going to be one of our better signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, hafnia said: The way I look at it is this.... if Liverpool signed him for £20m I would be jealous. Like he'd get a look in with their front line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Bringing in Theo and shipping Kevin seems to be a positive deal. Theo has to have a better attitude. Would have been more excited for a LB... but not bad business. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, seve said: Now thats he has signed i will be cheering with the rest of you, still have not changed my mind on him, and no need to get angry its only an opinion that clearly does not agree with you. Far from angry as said no offence the reason I said it is you've insinuated something isn'tt right with the deal that's not opinion that's speculative and out there not the fact you don't rate him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, nogs said: Like he'd get a look in with their front line. He's better than Chamberlain who does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, nogs said: Like he'd get a look in with their front line. Far better than chamberlain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, EFC-Paul said: He's better than Chamberlain who does He plays in midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, hafnia said: Far better than chamberlain. Walcott? Are you joking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, nogs said: Like he'd get a look in with their front line. I personally don't think he's much at a much different level than Oxlade-Chamberlain. Ed: oops. Late to the party. I think Ox edges him in skill, but Walcott has far more experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bailey said: Walcott? Are you joking? I'll reply to both mine and Hafs as I haven't a clue how to double quote 😄 Both have predominantly been used as wide men for Arsenal which is the only way you can form any basis and at times through the middle so in terms of position they are basically like for like Yes he is, he's slightly quicker has much better ball control has a far better goal to game ratio and assists the only department Chamberlain beats him in is physicality Nine times out of ten Chamberlain is a headless chicken who fluffs a step over and hits a worldie once in a blue moon. He's probably more similar to Bolasie than I'd like to admit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Newty82 said: The way I see it is just as Pad said, upgrade on Mirrallas. I didn't think this would happen to be fair so didn't think about it at great lengths. He'll improve our squad, no doubt. He'll add what we need and allow the likes of Lookman and Vlasic more time to learn their game. Now, if we have a proper striker up top (Tosun), a fully fit Bolsie and Walcott on the wings, Gylfi inbetween, Rooney bang in the centre mid....and we still struggle to shoot and/or score....then someone at the club needs a serious hard dry bum fuck. Are you offering to hand that out. As in spreading cheeks and dry bumming the anus off one of or all of current board members? Is it your penchant?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, Bailey said: Walcott? Are you joking? Nope. Walcott better player. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 When has Chamberlain played upfront for Liverpool? Or are you suggesting we should try to turn Walcott into a midfielder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said: I'll reply to both mine and Hafs as I haven't a clue how to double quote 😄 Both have predominantly been used as wide men for Arsenal which is the only way you can form any basis and at times through the middle so in terms of position they are basically like for like Yes he is, he's slightly quicker has much better ball control has a far better goal to game ratio and assists the only department Chamberlain beats him in is physicality Nine times out of ten Chamberlain is a headless chicken who fluffs a step over and hits a worldie once in a blue moon. He's probably more similar to Bolasie than I'd like to admit In every single aspect of the game bar finishing and speed, Chamberlain is a better player. He is a better passer, he reads the game far better, he is more aware defensively, his movement is smarter (albeit Walcott is decent there too). Chamberlain had completely stagnated at Arsenal and I was amazed Liverpool paid what they did for him but he is starting to show really top form again, far better than anything Walcott could dream of. Influencing every part of the game. I just hope that Walcott shows the same rejuvenation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bailey said: In every single aspect of the game bar finishing and speed, Chamberlain is a better player. He is a better passer, he reads the game far better, he is more aware defensively, his movement is smarter (albeit Walcott is decent there too). Chamberlain had completely stagnated at Arsenal and I was amazed Liverpool paid what they did for him but he is starting to show really top form again, far better than anything Walcott could dream of. Influencing every part of the game. I just hope that Walcott shows the same rejuvenation! I see it that they're two attacking players, one has an end product the other one doesn't. I'd rather have the one with the end product no matter what the ability level of the other player As for oxlade performing well at Liverpool, I'm not so sure we can say he's in any kind of consistent form. He hasn't played well for the shite most of the season and a few good games doesn't make them better than a player who statically has far better ratios than him. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: I see it that they're two attacking players, one has an end product the other one doesn't. I'd rather have the one with the end product no matter what the ability level of the other player As for oxlade performing well at Liverpool, I'm not so sure we can say he's in any kind of consistent form. He hasn't played well for the shite most of the season and a few good games doesn't make them better than a player who statically has far better ratios than him. Agree He's been very average overall and I don't actually think he's a bad player, had a good game against City but has looked poor at times the amount of montage clips of him fucking up already in such a short time is frightening Could do well under Klopp though but I'd rather Walcott all day over him tbh nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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