Bailey Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 I think this is going to be very very difficult. In fact I am still unconvinced by Koeman's tactical nouse Must admit that I am too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 On sky's forward planner it's still not down to be on any of the ITV channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Now I'm on the desktop, I'd like to see this; Pickford Holgate Jags Keane Baines Davies Gana Davy Morgan Mirallas Sandro Go 442 if we get that first goal with Sandro coming on How do you plan to counter attack with that team? Pace is going to be a huge problem for us this season unless something drastic happens between now and the close of the window (like we find a way to have PED''s not show up on a drugs test). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Pickford Williams..Keane..Jagielka Holgate.................................................Baines Gueye..Schneiderlin Lennon.........................Klaasen.........................Mirallas Sandro Vital that we bring on Lookman around the hour mark if need be to get us the speed we were crying out for on Thursday. Despite Calvert-Lewin doing his best too I wouldn't be against sticking him back on the bench to accommodate Aaron Lennon. Fingers crossed Sandro's fully fit to attack from the off, he looked our best player when he came on and with 90 minutes ahead of him could be the difference between our away goal going in and not arriving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 They haven't changed this as of 11.45pm. press the arrows to the right to get to Thursday. http://www.itv.com/tvguide/?id=tvgListingComp&tvgBegin=19 Hopefully this is accurate. http://www.live-footballontv.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Yeah that looks a good site Mike, seem to know what they're doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 It's defo on ITV4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Pickford Williams..Keane..Jagielka Holgate.................................................Baines Gueye..Schneiderlin Lennon.........................Klaasen.........................Mirallas Sandro Vital that we bring on Lookman around the hour mark if need be to get us the speed we were crying out for on Thursday. Despite Calvert-Lewin doing his best too I wouldn't be against sticking him back on the bench to accommodate Aaron Lennon. Fingers crossed Sandro's fully fit to attack from the off, he looked our best player when he came on and with 90 minutes ahead of him could be the difference between our away goal going in and not arriving. 12 players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 12 players Shhhh, ref may not notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) People keep mentioning all this about a lack of pace, when we've lost Lukaku and that's about it. We've also signed Sandro who looks quick to add to the likes of Lennon, Mirallas, Lookman and Bolasi. What's the difference this season from last (apart from one player)? Edited July 30, 2017 by AidanLewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 People keep mentioning all this about a lack of pace, when we've lost Lukaku and that's about it. We've also signed Sandro who looks quick to add to the likes of Lennon, Mirallas, Lookman and Bolasi. What's the difference this season from last (apart from one player)? Lennon didn't play, Mirallas is not good enough, Lookman spent most of the time last season on the bench and Bolassie has had a serious injury and who knows what he will be like when he comes back, basically we didn't have a huge amount of pace last season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 People keep mentioning all this about a lack of pace, when we've lost Lukaku and that's about it. We've also signed Sandro who looks quick to add to the likes of Lennon, Mirallas, Lookman and Bolasi. What's the difference this season from last (apart from one player)? It was a problem last season too and we are making it worse. Geri was another who played in the first half and Barkley wasn't a slouch, not that he ever got in behind. Basically our front 3 will more than likely be Rooney, Giroud and Sigurdsson with Sandro here and there. That isn't just slow it's pedestrian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 It was a problem, agreed, but i don't think it will be once all players are fit, and Lookman will feature a lot more this season I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Pickford Williams..Keane..Jagielka Holgate.................................................Baines Gueye..Schneiderlin Lennon.........................Klaasen.........................Mirallas Sandro Vital that we bring on Lookman around the hour mark if need be to get us the speed we were crying out for on Thursday. Despite Calvert-Lewin doing his best too I wouldn't be against sticking him back on the bench to accommodate Aaron Lennon. Fingers crossed Sandro's fully fit to attack from the off, he looked our best player when he came on and with 90 minutes ahead of him could be the difference between our away goal going in and not arriving. Use 12 players and still not find room for Rooney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) PICKFORD HOLGATE JAGS KEANE BAINES SCHNEIDERLIN DAVIES ROONEY KLAASSEN LOOKMAN SANDRO Edited July 30, 2017 by Palfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Pickford Holgate Keane Williams Baines Schneiderlin Davies Klaassen Mirallas Rooney Sandro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Gana needs to play. So does Morgan and Rooney. My first picks would be: Gana Rooney Morgan Pickford Keane Baines Klaassen Sandro You guys can fill in the blanks but they would probably be: Williams Holgate Davies Pickford Holgate Keane Williams Baines Morgan Klaassen Gana Davies Sandro Rooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 How do you plan to counter attack with that team? Pace is going to be a huge problem for us this season unless something drastic happens between now and the close of the window (like we find a way to have PED''s not show up on a drugs test). at least 3 have the pace to take the ball forward. If Sandro did start, make it 4. I'm expecting us to sit deep with the someone holding the halfway line. Long ball up over the top for them to run on to. But could be the birthday weekends beers taking their toll. 2 more days of it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 at least 3 have the pace to take the ball forward. If Sandro did start, make it 4. I'm expecting us to sit deep with the someone holding the halfway line. Long ball up over the top for them to run on to. But could be the birthday weekends beers taking their toll. 2 more days of it too Which three? I see Mirallas and that's it, and even he doesn't really have the pace to race away from people any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 I really don't buy into Gana needs to play, for me it's him or Schneiderlin sat in front of the back four, when they both play they both try and hold, if your playing three at back then fair enough, but when it's a back four we offer very little going forward then the front players become isolated because the midfield sit to deep. It's one or the other and Schneiderlin for me is the better out of the two, he gets us ticking and his delivery is far better. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 I really don't buy into Gana needs to play, for me it's him or Schneiderlin sat in front of the back four, when they both play they both try and hold, if your playing three at back then fair enough, but when it's a back four we offer very little going forward then the front players become isolated because the midfield sit to deep. It's one or the other and Schneiderlin for me is the better out of the two, he gets us ticking and his delivery is far better. One of the first on the teamsheet for me; makes an occasional mistake but he's a duracel bunny and 99% of the time does the right thing. Plus he gets forward and makes/has chances so him and Morgan together doesn't equal a negative approach. Love the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Which three? I see Mirallas and that's it, and even he doesn't really have the pace to race away from people any longer. lost my other post apparently. I see four but it's the eve of Swiss day and all hell is breaking loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 One of the first on the teamsheet for me; makes an occasional mistake but he's a duracel bunny and 99% of the time does the right thing. Plus he gets forward and makes/has chances so him and Morgan together doesn't equal a negative approach. Love the guy. Last week he looked a class above every player in the pitch. First time I have watched him live and I was shocked by how good he is. Tackling is one of the best in the premier. His brain is way above most our team. What surprised me was how he links okay up, even a couple of efforts on goal. MikeO, nyblue23 and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 I can see both arguments with Gana. I have never seen someone intercept or tackle as much as this lad can and he has such an engine on him too. On the other hand he gets sucked out of position a lot and I don't think he supports the attack as well as our other midfielders. By that I mean his runs are very obvious and his passing/shooting is basic at this level. In big games he would be one of the first names on the team sheet. When a draw isn't enough I don't think he is as important (assuming Schneiderlin plays). In an ideal world I would probably rotate him and Davies depending on the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 One of the first on the teamsheet for me; makes an occasional mistake but he's a duracel bunny and 99% of the time does the right thing. Plus he gets forward and makes/has chances so him and Morgan together doesn't equal a negative approach. Love the guy. One of the first on the teamsheet for me; makes an occasional mistake but he's a duracel bunny and 99% of the time does the right thing. Plus he gets forward and makes/has chances so him and Morgan together doesn't equal a negative approach. Love the guy.I don't see it as a positive set up playing them together, we look to defensive, which allows teams to take the game to us.I'm sure we will see them start together most games, but in my opinion I feel we would be missing a better line up and performance with just one of them in the starting eleven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 I can see both arguments with Gana. I have never seen someone intercept or tackle as much as this lad can and he has such an engine on him too. On the other hand he gets sucked out of position a lot and I don't think he supports the attack as well as our other midfielders. By that I mean his runs are very obvious and his passing/shooting is basic at this level. In big games he would be one of the first names on the team sheet. When a draw isn't enough I don't think he is as important (assuming Schneiderlin plays). In an ideal world I would probably rotate him and Davies depending on the opposition. Nail on the head. He doesn't have a football brain but could man mark the best of them. If I was managing the opposition and we started Gana and Barkley I'd be rubbing my hands as you know you'll get a lot of space in midfield as they don't read the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 Gana doesn't have a football brain? Watching him you would think the opposite. The main ingredient to making an interception is reading play, not blind luck. He spent most of the last game just outside the forward third, linking up defence and attack. Totally the opposite to our poster boy Morgan. Gana is the African one by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Gana doesn't have a football brain? Watching him you would think the opposite. The main ingredient to making an interception is reading play, not blind luck. He spent most of the last game just outside the forward third, linking up defence and attack. Totally the opposite to our poster boy Morgan. Gana is the African one by the way. He runs to the ball and often goes in on the wrong side of his man, if his man passes the ball short he'll get sucked in to chasing the ball down rather than keeping track of his player which creates space for the opposition. This works well if you switch runners but it's not always the best thing to do, and Gana does it nearly every time with no consideration of where the opponents are standing or where his midfield partner is. Going forward he's laughable at times. Last game so he had to do was a simple ball in from CM to in front of who over was LF at the time and he played it to his feet completely ruining the attack. In the final third he plays on luck alone, no clue what to do. Edited August 1, 2017 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 He runs to the ball and often goes in on the wrong side of his man, if his man passes the ball short he'll get sucked in to chasing the ball down rather than keeping track of his player which creates space for the opposition. This works well if you switch runners but it's not always the best thing to do, and Gana does it nearly every time with no consideration of where the opponents are standing or where his midfield partner is. Going forward he's laughable at times. Last game so he had to do was a simple ball in from CM to in front of who over was LF at the time and he played it to his feet completely ruining the attack. In the final third he plays on luck alone, no clue what to do. Im not sure that we are watching the same player. One of the first on the team sheet for me (if not THE first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 They haven't changed this as of 11.45pm. press the arrows to the right to get to Thursday. http://www.itv.com/tvguide/?id=tvgListingComp&tvgBegin=19 They have now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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