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Pickford.

Coleman. Keane. Mori. Baines

Besic. Schneiderlin, Klaassen

Rooney. DCL. Gylfi.

Subs Holgate. Jags. Gana. Bolasie. Sandro.

 

My reason for Mori with Keane is that Williams and Jags are to afraid to push up field, because they are protecting the fact they have no pace and are scared of the ball over the top, which means they constantly defend deep which means the midfield can't move up, because it leaves to big a space behind them, I feel the central defenders staying to deep has led to a lot of our problems.

 

In midfield I went Besic over Gana from what I've seen in the games so far Besic has offered more than Gana, with passing and movement also in the little time Schneiderlin and him had together they worked well together.

I chose Klaassen over Davies because I believe once Klaassen gets to speed he will be class you can see he has a good brain he just needs to get used to the pace of the premiere league, I never went with Ross because he possibly won't be here next week.

 

I think the three up top have a good mix of youth and pace with DCL and he looks far better than Sandro, Rooney brings experience leadership and desire and will still get his fair share of goals, Gylfi should add some flair and graft with his work rate.

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Honestly this is a great question with all the new players and many formations we play. I'll have a go

 

Pickford

Coleman Keane Jags Baines

Schneiderlin Gana

Sandro Gylfi Bolasie

Rooney

 

DCL and Davies as super subs.

 

Edit - I count injured ones as well.

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I couldn't name you a full starting 11 because i could put the best players into it but that wouldn't be a very good team.

 

GK - Pickford is easy.

 

DEF - Coleman / Keane / ? / Baines

 

Baines & Coleman (assuming the latter comes back to a similar level) are obvious. Keane looks shaky in a back 5 but much more assured in a back 4. Jags and Williams have looked equally as dodgy at the back, I would probably side with Jags at the moment.

 

MID - Davies - Schneiderlin - Gana

 

I think we need to go back to having Schneiderlin deep and then Gana and Davies going box to box. Klaassen could do the same job as Davies but from what I have seen so far Davies has been the slightly cleverer passer, albeit neither have covered themselves in glory so far.

 

STR - ? - DCL - ?

 

I think DCL has shown that he should be leading the line but the other wide options are either not wide player, not good enough, or likely to be exiled. Based on last season I would have Barkley on the right. I guess he would switch with Sigurdsson. Rooney doesnt have the legs to play in this position, Sandro could play on the other side but Im not sure what his best position is yet, Lookman needs to drop down a league, Lennon isnt good enough and Mirallas is an option but he wont be here much longer.

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Pickford

Martina Holgate Williams Baines

Davies McCarthy

Mirallas Klaassen Sigurdssen

Rooney

Taking the piss aren't you pete, no Coleman or Keane in defence, only one to choose McCarthy in midfield, and Mirallas and Klaasen.

 

Looking at it another way, if you look at all the different team selections in this thread you can appreciate what Koeman is up against trying to get the team right.

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Taking the piss aren't you pete, no Coleman or Keane in defence, only one to choose McCarthy in midfield, and Mirallas and Klaasen.

 

Looking at it another way, if you look at all the different team selections in this thread you can appreciate what Koeman is up against trying to get the team right.

Coleman is injured. Keane has been massively unimpressive. Only good game was against Split in the first leg. All three centre backs have looked off the pace. Fully fit team I'd be starting Mori and Holgate.

 

I think a lot of Klaassen's movement is missed on the tele. He's a very smart player, will take time to fully get used to the prem but him and Rooney could play some great one touch football.

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Pickford
Coleman, Keane, Holgate, Baines
Besic, McCarthy, Davies

Rooney
DCL, Sigurdsson

 

Subs: Joel, Jagielka, Williams, Barkley, Sandro

 

1) Play Holgate where he should be: centre back

2) Play a midfield that's aggressive and wants to win

3) Choose the best team regardless of who we just brought in

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Steve, no Gana or Morgan in Midfield, just reiterates what I said before, with all these different selections, it shows its not so easy for Koeman to pick the right team thats suits everybody.

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Steve, no Gana or Morgan in Midfield, just reiterates what I said before, with all these different selections, it shows its not so easy for Koeman to pick the right team thats suits everybody.

 

You're right, Bill. And, of course, he'll feel pressure to play Schneiderlin, Gueye, and Klaassen because he spent a lot of money on bringing them in. This is the biggest danger, I think: believing that you have to play new recruits in case it comes across that you made a mistake bringing them in. In the end, it's about playing the best team for a given game and not feeling pressure to play this person and not that person for other reasons.

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Pickford

Coleman, Keane, Holgate, Baines

Besic, McCarthy, Davies

Rooney

DCL, Sigurdsson

 

Subs: Joel, Jagielka, Williams, Barkley, Sandro

 

1) Play Holgate where he should be: centre back

2) Play a midfield that's aggressive and wants to win

3) Choose the best team regardless of who we just brought in

?

Who in their right mind doesn't pick Gana or Morgan.

Steve, have you considered a different sport?

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You're right, Bill. And, of course, he'll feel pressure to play Schneiderlin, Gueye, and Klaassen because he spent a lot of money on bringing them in. This is the biggest danger, I think: believing that you have to play new recruits in case it comes across that you made a mistake bringing them in. In the end, it's about playing the best team for a given game and not feeling pressure to play this person and not that person for other reasons.

 

i don't think so. klaassen was bought to be a bench player i'm almost sure of it. rotate for cup and europa matches and injuries but gylfi is his position but better. the top sides all have 25m+ bench players, look at city, united, chelsea, etc. We are just trying to build a squad like that.

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Coleman is injured. Keane has been massively unimpressive. Only good game was against Split in the first leg. All three centre backs have looked off the pace. Fully fit team I'd be starting Mori and Holgate.

 

I think a lot of Klaassen's movement is missed on the tele. He's a very smart player, will take time to fully get used to the prem but him and Rooney could play some great one touch football.

 

His movement has been decent but I have been massively underwhelmed by his passing and also his creativity. He needs time to settle though.

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Out of the nine who posted a team the players with the most votes in positions they play would give us this starting eleven.

 

Pickford 9/9.

No other picked.

 

Coleman 8/9. Keane 8/9. Jags. 5/9. Baines 9/9.

All others picked 1-2/9

 

Gana 5/9. Schneiderlin 7/9. Gylfi 8/9.

All others picked 2/9

 

Sandro 6/9. DCL 5/9. Rooney 8/9.

All others picked 2/9

 

No real big surprises if it wasn't for the injury to Coleman this team could be selected, don't know if it would perform.

Still think we could do with another CB with pace, a LB as cover and eventual replacement for Baines, and a proven striker with pace.

 

Be interesting to know your thoughts on how it panned out and what were you think we need to change or improve.

 

Then we can tweet it to Koeman, he might be glad of the help, grin.

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Who in their right mind doesn't pick Gana or Morgan.

Steve, have you considered a different sport?

 

Me - although I can't guarantee the "right mind" bit.

 

Morgan's level, for me, appears to have dropped. When played alongside Gueye, it's like watching the ball in a pinball machine get stuck bouncing from side to side only to finally make it's way back to be hoofed forward again. Besic brings aggression and a will to win. So does McCarthy. I certainly meant it when I suggested my preferred line-up.

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For me it's one of;

Pickford

Holgate Keane Jags Baines

Gana Schneiderlein

Sandro Rooney Siggy

DCL

 

or

 

Pickford

Kenny Keane Jags Baines

Davies Schneiderlein Gana

Rooney/Siggy

DCL Sandro/Rooney

 

depending on what shape we go with. It's frustrating me to bits that we've bought in so many slow AMs and no wingers (or a marquee striker) to solve obvious issues in our squad. Think we're going to have to use Klaasen as a rotation/Europa player for instance.

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Away against top 6

Pickford

Holgate Keane Jags Baines

Morgan

Besic Gana/Davies

Gylfi Rooney

DCL

 

Edit - I can't wait to get bolasie back, Coleman in for holgate once fit - he and bolasie will change us completely.

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Me - although I can't guarantee the "right mind" bit.

 

Morgan's level, for me, appears to have dropped. When played alongside Gueye, it's like watching the ball in a pinball machine get stuck bouncing from side to side only to finally make it's way back to be hoofed forward again. Besic brings aggression and a will to win. So does McCarthy. I certainly meant it when I suggested my preferred line-up.

I think you should watch rugby or cricket instead of footy ?

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Morgan and Gana are some of our most crucial players, one if not both must ALWAYS be considered for the starting 11. Anything less would make me question the manager.

 

This thread should have just been about the front 3 / 4. We have decent choices in midfield, our back four / five is what it is due to injury or lack of cover. The interesting selection question is what to do up top with what we got.

 

If gana and morgan are fit, I would go with the following in our current setup:

 

Pickford

Holgate Keane Jags Baines

Morgan

Besic/Davies Gana

Gylfi Rooney

DCL

Leave klaassen, sandro, lookman on the bench to be used as subs / to inspire them to make cases for the starting 11

(P.S. I miss Coleman, thinking he will walk right back into the starting 11 when he is fit)

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(P.S. I miss Coleman, thinking he will walk right back into the starting 11 when he is fit)

 

I'm quite keen on the idea of him hopping back in right now personally; he'd give us more on the right with just the one leg than we currently offer.

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That reveals a weakness: There should be healthy and real competition for every spot on the team.

 

At right back I think there is but for whatever reason Koeman refuses to give Kenny a go.

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When everyone is fit:

 

Pickford

Coleman Keane Holgate Baines

Gana Morgan Besic/Davies

Gylfi Rooney

DCL

I was thinking about this formation last night with Siggy and Rooney narrow behind DCL.

 

We don't have wingers so there is no point playing wide, but we do have attacking full backs and an abundance of defensive midfielders so the FBs can get forward and should be covered.

 

The question comes defensively, as who should pick up the opposition full backs. Chelsea used Willian and Pedro to do it but they have the mobility and pace to turn defence into attack. I don't know if it would work unless we had lots of possession and if we had lots of possession the centre of the pitch is likely to be overcrowded anyway.

 

I think ultimately we have too many of the same players.

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I was thinking about this formation last night with Siggy and Rooney narrow behind DCL.

 

We don't have wingers so there is no point playing wide, but we do have attacking full backs and an abundance of defensive midfielders so the FBs can get forward and should be covered.

 

The question comes defensively, as who should pick up the opposition full backs. Chelsea used Willian and Pedro to do it but they have the mobility and pace to turn defence into attack. I don't know if it would work unless we had lots of possession and if we had lots of possession the centre of the pitch is likely to be overcrowded anyway.

 

I think ultimately we have too many of the same players.

 

Yeah, it leaves us pretty narrow because we don't have any wide players. Gana/Davies/Besic will have to be fairly mobile in order to account for teams who play wider.

 

We really need to invest in some wingers.

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I was thinking about this formation last night with Siggy and Rooney narrow behind DCL.

 

We don't have wingers so there is no point playing wide, but we do have attacking full backs and an abundance of defensive midfielders so the FBs can get forward and should be covered.

 

The question comes defensively, as who should pick up the opposition full backs. Chelsea used Willian and Pedro to do it but they have the mobility and pace to turn defence into attack. I don't know if it would work unless we had lots of possession and if we had lots of possession the centre of the pitch is likely to be overcrowded anyway.

 

I think ultimately we have too many of the same players.

I think we'll see a transformation when Coleman comes back, I can see him and Baines going back to wing backs to provide the pace and width, with Rooney, Gana and Glyphi linking them up

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Which one? Not like we've settled on a stable one anyway :lol:

Really? It's clear we want to play as narrow as possible, as slow as possible, with as many central players as possible, with as little pace as possible... if that's not a system then I don't know what is :lol:.

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Really? It's clear we want to play as narrow as possible, as slow as possible, with as many central players as possible, with as little pace as possible... if that's not a system then I don't know what is :lol:.

If clusterfuck is a new system, then yes, I agree...

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Really? It's clear we want to play as narrow as possible, as slow as possible, with as many central players as possible, with as little pace as possible... if that's not a system then I don't know what is :lol:.

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Now do we bring Barkley and Niasse back into the equation of who would be in your starting eleven assuming everyone is fit, Ross would probably make a few squads not sure the same could be said about Niasse, but never say never

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I'd be intrigued to see a DCL, Barkley, Vlasic front 3.

I'd maybe even consider Niasse on the bench. He is a nuisance and if you needed a goal he might just pop up somewhere. Thats as far as he would get though!

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I'm all for giving Niasse a solid chance at this point. He's definitely rough but he's shown he can score a goals in the league. He would be an okay shout for cup matches against lesser opposition when our schedule is congested. 

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Tough one tbh when fully fit something like the below, when we have everyone back and pending how Vlasic settles and Barkley if he stays on we should have some decent versatility tbh

 

 

-----------------------Pickford 

Coleman---Keane-----Jagielka---Baines

-------------------------Gana 

--------Schneiderlin----Sigurdsson 

Bolasie------------------------------------Sandro

------------------------Rooney

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Just wondering, based on ability rather than form, what would your starting 11 be? I'm sure I'll be a little controversial here, but in my opinion, the best XI based on who I think plays each role best is the following;

Pickford

Coleman Keane Zouma Digne

Gana Gomes

Lookman Siggy Richarlison

Cenk

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I think the 11 that start at present are the best we have, I would probably try switching one or two, but to take any of them out would weaken the side

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                             Pickford. 

Coleman.     Keane.       Mina.          Digne     

                McCarthy.            Gomes 

Walcott.                 Gylfi.               Richarlison  

                              Tosun. 

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Depends on structure, but wouldn't mind seeing a bit more variation.

Current 4-2-1-3

Coleman  Keane  Zouma  Digne

            Gueye.    Gomes

                Siggurdson

Lookman    Tosun    Richarlison

Think that plays Richarlison to his strength and gives us an outlet through the middle.  Probably toss a coin/rotate who starts between Lookman/Bernard and Tosun/DCL.

Wouldn't mind seeing Silva try an attacking 4-3-3 or a straight 4-4-2 against suitable opposition.  Would bring Bernard on for Gueye in both those formations, play Richarlison alongside Tosun/DCL in a front 2.

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2 hours ago, Aidan said:

Sigurdsson? 🤔

Doesn't suit the system we play. Luckily he's a hard worker and trying his best to make it work but there's games were you don't even notice he's on the pitch. The rest of the midfielders I picked are more proactive compared to Sigs reactive. 

Tempted to go for Kenny over Coleman as his legs are going. 

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8 hours ago, pete0 said:

Doesn't suit the system we play. Luckily he's a hard worker and trying his best to make it work but there's games were you don't even notice he's on the pitch. The rest of the midfielders I picked are more proactive compared to Sigs reactive. 

Tempted to go for Kenny over Coleman as his legs are going. 

What makes you think he doesn't suit the system we play Pete?

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9 hours ago, pete0 said:

Doesn't suit the system we play. Luckily he's a hard worker and trying his best to make it work but there's games were you don't even notice he's on the pitch. The rest of the midfielders I picked are more proactive compared to Sigs reactive. 

Tempted to go for Kenny over Coleman as his legs are going. 

lol

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3 hours ago, Aidan said:

What makes you think he doesn't suit the system we play Pete?

Lacks a turn of pace when pressing. He's reactive to play which loses him a second too. 

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13 hours ago, pete0 said:

Doesn't suit the system we play. Luckily he's a hard worker and trying his best to make it work but there's games were you don't even notice he's on the pitch. The rest of the midfielders I picked are more proactive compared to Sigs reactive. 

Tempted to go for Kenny over Coleman as his legs are going. 

Kenny is much better with his passing, not so on defence, if we could get him up to speed with defence Kenny wpuld be good for the club, there were a couple of attacks on Sunday where Coleman was excellent, and I couldn't help thinking that Kenny would have been fleeced, of course it all comes with experience, shame Colemans final ball has never been that great.

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2 hours ago, Wiggytop said:

Kenny is much better with his passing, not so on defence, if we could get him up to speed with defence Kenny wpuld be good for the club, there were a couple of attacks on Sunday where Coleman was excellent, and I couldn't help thinking that Kenny would have been fleeced, of course it all comes with experience, shame Colemans final ball has never been that great.

Yeh for all his was wasteful with the ball his 1 v 1 defending in particular was very good.

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