markjazzbassist Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Our first Europa match of the Group Stage. The month of September sees us playing League, Europa, and Cup matches every weekend and midweek so it will be a very busy time. That being said getting a jump start in Europa will be beneficial. Atalanta haven't won a match yet in their league (albeit they played Napoli and Roma) and are bottom table. They sold a lot of talented players this summer (Kessie, Conti, Bastoni) with all 3 being on the defensive side of the game (CM, RB, CB). Their big signings were Josip Illicic as striker, Boro midfielder Marten De Roon, and a pair of loans for Juve players Caldara (CB) and Spinazzola (LWB). Spinazzola was with them last year as well and was a big part of their success. We can definately beat them and I feel we have the quality to do so. Their formation last year was a 343 similar to Conte's at Chelsea. With their wing backs being very important to their strategy I would hope for this lineup. Pickford Holgate Keane Jags Baines Gana Schneiderlin Sandro Rooney Gylfi DCL Holgate to fend off Spinazzola and stay home and defend against their width. Gana to assist there and Morgan to assist Baines. Sandro and DCL to use pace, ROoney and Gylfi to be creative and help out in attack and provide their nous for right place right time goals. nyblue23 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Mark, I really respect the scouting report. I can't say that I've followed Atalanta at all and know nothing more about them than you've written above. I think I agree with your lineup since we are away. For the home fixture, I'd recommend a pretty rotated squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks to MJB for detailed scouting report. Atalanta won their match yesterday, home to a weaker Serie A team. This match begins a very crowded 6 matches in 18 days for Everton. Thurs Sept 14 - @ Atalanta Sun Sept 17 - @ Man U Wed Sept 20 - Sunderland (Carabao Cup) Sat Sept 23 - Bournemouth Thurs Sept 28 - Apollon Sun Oct 1 - Burnley We're all anxious for a much better performance Thursday, as we can't expect more than a point at Man U. (Probaby can't even "expect" that.) Good news is the last 4 of this crowded 6 matches are home, and only 1, the first, involves travel. I'll guess (wildly)......... Pickford Holgate Keane Jagielka Baines Gana Schneiderlin Sigurdsson Rooney Mirallas DCL PS to American Evertonians - Atalanta match is on Fox Sports 2 (1 pm EDT), and there's reason to believe we'll get all our EL matches on either FS 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said: Thanks to MJB for detailed scouting report. Atalanta won their match yesterday, home to a weaker Serie A team. This match begins a very crowded 6 matches in 18 days for Everton. Thurs Sept 14 - @ Atalanta Sun Sept 17 - @ Man U Wed Sept 20 - Sunderland (Carabao Cup) Sat Sept 23 - Bournemouth Thurs Sept 28 - Apollon Sun Oct 1 - Burnley We're all anxious for a much better performance Thursday, as we can't expect more than a point at Man U. (Probaby can't even "expect" that.) Good news is the last 4 of this crowded 6 matches are home, and only 1, the first, involves travel. I'll guess (wildly)......... Pickford Holgate Keane Jagielka Baines Gana Schneiderlin Sigurdsson Rooney Mirallas DCL Switch Gana and Schneiderlin for Besic and Davies, we need a team that wants to attack these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Would like to see Besic get more minutes here. The team and fans need a spark after a dismal start to the season. lets see some of the more energetic players get some time. Besic, Davies, Vlasic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Elston Gunnn said: Thanks to MJB for detailed scouting report. Atalanta won their match yesterday, home to a weaker Serie A team. This match begins a very crowded 6 matches in 18 days for Everton. Thurs Sept 14 - @ Atalanta Sun Sept 17 - @ Man U Wed Sept 20 - Sunderland (Carabao Cup) Sat Sept 23 - Bournemouth Thurs Sept 28 - Apollon Sun Oct 1 - Burnley We're all anxious for a much better performance Thursday, as we can't expect more than a point at Man U. (Probaby can't even "expect" that.) Good news is the last 4 of this crowded 6 matches are home, and only 1, the first, involves travel. I'll guess (wildly)......... Pickford Holgate Keane Jagielka Baines Gana Schneiderlin Sigurdsson Rooney Mirallas DCL PS to American Evertonians - Atalanta match is on Fox Sports 2 (1 pm EDT), and there's reason to believe we'll get all our EL matches on either FS 1 or 2. Gana, Schneiderlin and Rooney should all be dropped. Pickford Holgate Keane Jags Baines Besic Davies Klaasen Vlasic DCL Siggurdson Matt and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yeah not sure if Rooney is mentally ready for conpetative games yet. Think Morgan or Gana will feature but not sure if together. I'd say Gana is more suited for this one with a higher press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkfans Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 7 hours ago, Bailey said: Gana, Schneiderlin and Rooney should all be dropped. Pickford Holgate Keane Jags Baines Besic Davies Klaasen Vlasic DCL Siggurdson Lookman should replace Klaassen, and put Siggurdson as AM, and we can possibly try Kenny as our rb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 hours ago, hkfans said: Lookman should replace Klaassen, and put Siggurdson as AM, and we can possibly try Kenny as our rb I wouldnt play with AMs just box to box CMs. Lookman can come on as a sub but I think Klaassen needs more game time asap. Don't disagree with using Kenny, but Holgate should be first choice and I wouldn't make too many changes it what won't be an easy game. Kenny should be in for Sunderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTStanley1 Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think we need to put some width in the team to stretch the opposition a bit for the first time this season as all of the CMs isn't working too well. I'm probably changing too much of the starting XI but I'd go for... Pickford Holgate Keane Jags Baines Besic Davies Lookman Sigurdsson Vlasic DCL. patto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just seen this is a relatively early kick off which means I won't get back from footy in time to watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 We need a good performance and a win. Pickford Martina Jags Keane Baines Gana Klaassen Besic Rooney Sandro Sigurdsson Let's press them from the go and get out there with some intent and creativity. No need for two sitting mids in this game, Gana will assist that press more than Morgan, Besic will add to the energy and Siggy and Rooney should add to the creativity i suspect we will need against a team which will be presumably deeper then us. Think Sandro will be better against weaker teams than DCL. Klaassen needs to be given the opportunity to impress and will also add to that press. As for RB Martina is more suited against those weaker teams than Holgate, let's save him for the United game. I expect us to save Holgate, Morgan, and DCL for the United game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Wouldn't be surprised if we get fingered again. Can see the confidence being very low after the shambles of Spurs and Chelsea. Hoping I'm very much wrong mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, aaron said: Wouldn't be surprised if we get fingered again. Can see the confidence being very low after the shambles of Spurs and Chelsea. Hoping I'm very much wrong mind. Love it! aaron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Pickford Kenny jags Keane baines Lennon Gana Morgan lookman Sigurdsson Sandro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 20 hours ago, Aidan Lewis said: We need a good performance and a win. Pickford Martina Jags Keane Baines Gana Klaassen Besic Rooney Sandro Sigurdsson Let's press them from the go and get out there with some intent and creativity. No need for two sitting mids in this game, Gana will assist that press more than Morgan, Besic will add to the energy and Siggy and Rooney should add to the creativity i suspect we will need against a team which will be presumably deeper then us. Think Sandro will be better against weaker teams than DCL. Klaassen needs to be given the opportunity to impress and will also add to that press. As for RB Martina is more suited against those weaker teams than Holgate, let's save him for the United game. I expect us to save Holgate, Morgan, and DCL for the United game. I agree we need a good performance, so why the hell did you put coco the clown in at right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, London Blue said: I agree we need a good performance, so why the hell did you put coco the clown in at right back He's better at going forward than any of our right backs. Let's save Holgate for the big game on Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 36 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: He's better at going forward than any of our right backs. Let's save Holgate for the big game on Sunday! I don't think for one minute we will be going forward Aidan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bill said: I don't think for one minute we will be going forward Aidan. Why not Bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 43 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: Why not Bill? My apologies Aidan, I thought I was in the Utd thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Bill said: My apologies Aidan, I thought I was in the Utd thread. You might be right anyway Bill ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 My Team, keep it tight and look to build control. Need to play DCL and Sando together as they both look like they need to have a strike partner. Pickford Holgate Keane Williams Baines Schneiderlin Gana Siggy Klaassen Sandro DCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Pickford holgate Keane Williams Baines Besic Gana Sandro Klassen Siggy DCL sandro needs minutes, needs a goal and will hopefully relax a bit after getting his first. Same said for klassen. Morgan needs a break because he hasn't been anything like himself. Not sure if Vlasic is ready for a start but I'd like to see him get minutes along with Davies. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 I am not sure, but I think we are the fist English club they have played. So they will think all English clubs are easy pickings after they hammer us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 I know the team I want to see, but it won't happen. Instead, Koeman will pick his new recruits. Pickford Martina Keane Williams Baines Gana Schneiderlin Klaassen Rooney Sigurddson Sandro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Didn't realise that Atlanta play with 3 and the back and 2 up front, so I can definitely see us matching them. If that's the case it'd be a good chance to give Holgate a game in a back 3, Kenny a game as a wing-back and DCL and Sandro a chance to play together up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Chris Vran said: Didn't realise that Atlanta play with 3 and the back and 2 up front, so I can definitely see us matching them. If that's the case it'd be a good chance to give Holgate a game in a back 3, Kenny a game as a wing-back and DCL and Sandro a chance to play together up front. not sure about Holgate and Kenny in same lineup, who would you drop so they can play together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, rubecula said: not sure about Holgate and Kenny in same lineup, who would you drop so they can play together? Martina and Williams Vranny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: Martina and Williams Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 im hoping there will be a youtube stream of this one as i'm at work today and would like to watch the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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