Chach Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Word is that Usmanov has received an offer for his Arsenal shares and he is considering it. Always seemed odd that Moshiri only purchased 49.9% of the club and USM sponsorship of Finch Farm felt like a sneaky way to channel funds into the club, question is do we want to be owned by a Russian oligarch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Usmanov has a decent track record at Arsenal, it wouldn't be like some unknown Russian billionaire coming out of the woodwork. If he came in for a partnership with Morishi, I don't think it would be a bad thing and would give us some additional financial clout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 how many number 10's could Koeman invest in with the money? Vranny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Always on the cards, Usmanov and Moshiri always worked as a pair in their business dealings. Usnamov tried to get control of Arsenal at the end of last season and failed as Dean just did not want to know. If it does happen be prepared for some really high powered spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 He won't sell to Kroenke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said: He won't sell to Kroenke Nope but he will sell to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, London Blue said: Nope but he will sell to someone else. haha the ultimate fuck you Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Nope but he will sell to someone else.Nobody else would buy them, because if they did they would be in the same position Usmanov is in right nowHis only realistic way out is to sell to Kroenke Chach, Paddock and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Nobody else would buy them, because if they did they would be in the same position Usmanov is in right now His only realistic way out is to sell to Kroenke It depends, if they want to take control of the club as Usmanov did then you are right, but not everyone wants to go that route. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 It depends, if they want to take control of the club as Usmanov did then you are right, but not everyone wants to go that route. He hasn’t even got a seat on the board, he has zero say in the running of the club. Who is going to throw £30m in to a black hole and have nothing to show for it? ........ waits for someone to say Steve Walsh or Ronald Koeman holystove and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, London Blue said: Nope but he will sell to someone else. On what basis when all we have to go from is "someone has bid for his shares" when in recent times the man himself has said he won't sell The someone is Kroenke BTW so no he won't sell, not anytime soon and as Dunc logically put why would someone spunk all that money on being Kroenke's side chick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 32 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He hasn’t even got a seat on the board, he has zero say in the running of the club. Who is going to throw £30m in to a black hole and have nothing to show for it? ........ waits for someone to say Steve Walsh or Ronald Koeman a smart investor. the value of the club is rising and will only rise, pay 30 now, cash out in 20 years for 300 million. its called inflation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: a smart investor. the value of the club is rising and will only rise, pay 30 now, cash out in 20 years for 300 million. its called inflation. If the tenfold increase is due to a tenfold increase in inflation then said smart investor would've made no profit whatsoever in real terms over the twenty years because the money they get back will be worth the same as the money they put in. That's definitely not smart investing. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 minute ago, MikeO said: If the tenfold increase is due to a tenfold increase in inflation then said smart investor would've made no profit whatsoever in real terms over the twenty years because the money they get back will be worth the same as the money they put in. That's definitely not smart investing. sorry mike i didn't clarify. inflation stipulates it will increase over time. new TV deals, emirates, etc. stipulate it will rise a lot more than that. they're not going to get relegated. i'd say its as sure of an investment as there is. look at NBA owners, one paid 85 mil in 1993, just got 2.2 billion. sports teams are great investments as long as you're not relegated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 58 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: On what basis when all we have to go from is "someone has bid for his shares" when in recent times the man himself has said he won't sell The someone is Kroenke BTW so no he won't sell, not anytime soon and as Dunc logically put why would someone spunk all that money on being Kroenke's side chick Usmanov will sell to whoever wants to buy them. He knows he will never get on the board, and never take over the club. If someone else buys them it probably wont be to take over the club as has been stated Kronkite will never allow it, it will be for investment as Arsenal make money, and / or for prestige. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Usemanov just wants a way to buy the Winslow for a few nights in with the poker team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 5 hours ago, London Blue said: Usnamov tried to get control of Arsenal at the end of last season and failed as Did he though, or was he just telling Kroenke how much he valued the club at (his own shares at)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Chach said: Did he though, or was he just telling Kroenke how much he valued the club at (his own shares at)? He tried to buy the club, he has been trying for some time, a civil war that he lost. His last attempt included a broadside at the end of the season on the running of the club in an attempt to get momentum for a change. He failed. It was his last throw of the dice. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 50 minutes ago, London Blue said: He tried to buy the club, he has been trying for some time, a civil war that he lost. His last attempt included a broadside at the end of the season on the running of the club in an attempt to get momentum for a change. He failed. It was his last through of the dice. Yep and he even said as much after it was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: Yep and he even said as much after it was over. Yeah, I for one always announce every aspect of my play after a big hand of poker. Not really. Sometimes I do though, but I'm lying. Sometimes I am telling the truth. Only I know though, everyone else's opinion is speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 hours ago, London Blue said: He tried to buy the club, he has been trying for some time, a civil war that he lost. His last attempt included a broadside at the end of the season on the running of the club in an attempt to get momentum for a change. He failed. It was his last through of the dice. Yeah he had for some time, the difference this time is he had previously dispatched* his BFF to buy another club in the "Hollywood of Football" *Or Mosh just fancied owning his own club, this seems less likely to me. I am not even sure he knows what he's doing or even likes football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, Chach said: Yeah he had for some time, the difference this time is he had previously dispatched* his BFF to buy another club in the "Hollywood of Football" *Or Mosh just fancied owning his own club, this seems less likely to me. I am not even sure he knows what he's doing or even likes football. Moshiri was a shareholder at Arsenal for years then spent millions of pounds buying Everton, he comes to our home matches, so yeah I would say he likes football. I agree with you though that they work as a team and it is likely that Usmaov will be joining us, I think Moshiri was his point man. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 I highly doubt Usmanov will come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 9 hours ago, London Blue said: Usmanov will sell to whoever wants to buy them. Where are you getting this from? He's said in recent times himself he won't It certainly won't be to Kroenke when he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 BBC football gossip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/03/stan-kroenke-makes-525-offer-usmanov-arsenal-shares Half a billion and change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 http://www.teamtalk.com/news/arsenal-fans-group-urge-usmanov-not-to-sell-up-to-kroenke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Chach said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/03/stan-kroenke-makes-525-offer-usmanov-arsenal-shares Half a billion and change More than enough to buy the entire club if you're using the same valuation Moshiri bought in at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41503695 Bit of a caveat in there though... "...if a party appears who shares my and undoubtedly the majority of fans' vision for the club, I could consider the question of selling my stake." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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