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Who should replace Koeman?


Who should be Everton's new manager?  

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  1. 1. Who would you like to see replace Ronald Koeman as manager of Everton?

    • Carlo Ancelotti
    • Thomas Tuchel
    • Eddie Howe
    • Sean Dyche
    • Brendan Rodgers
    • Sam Allardyce
    • Rafael Benitez
    • David Unsworth
    • Duncan Ferguson
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    • Someone else
    • Keep Koeman


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Based on his first two games, we can see that he is trying to prove a point and for me that's not what we need right now. It's the tried and failed method picking the likes of Lennon,  rather than picking the best players. He has left better players on the bench the last few games. What we need is someone to get the best out of our best players. Not someone who bins them off (Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin 2 perfect examples), and then replaces them with players who aren't good enough. I think we all agree that that starting eleven against Leicester was a relegation team (both on the pitch and on paper) and if that is who he is choosing to get him the job then he is deluded. Kenny shouldn't be playing - Holgate, whatever you think of him, is our most dependable right back now, Schneiderlin has to play, in front of any of the midfield, as does Sigurdsson, Vlasic and probably Lookman. However, looks like he's unearthed a potential gem in Baningame so I'll give him that. He's like a good version of Gueye!

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5 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

I'm sticking to my guns: Unsworth deserves the role and some time to prove it. He would not get us relegated.

Some time to prove it, how long do you think he should have to prove it for me we have one more chance to get this right this season or we are facing relegation, so let's say we give him to January he has no proven ability as a 1st team manager in any first team league, yet we believe he can turn a broken team around in what many people consider the hardest league in the world for me that is massive risk that we shouldn't be taking at this moment in time, we need to get someone in like fat Sam on a short term contract with the sole objective of making sure we stay up this season, it won't be pretty but it would buy us time to find the right man, and keep our premiership status alive, where with Unsworth we'd be rolling the dice.

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I’m leaning towards Big Sam. I remember reading an article about how people have him incorrectly labelled.

People see him as a one trick pony, a long ball specialist who saves teams from relegation. This is certainly true in season one, but not so from there on. In season one he gets the job done. He gets the results needed to bring stability. From season two however he then starts adding more creativity, playing a more enjoyable style to watch.

For example at Bolton he started bringing in the likes of Jay Jay Okocha, etc. He did the same at West Ham.

The issue is with the last few clubs (Sunderland, Palace, etc) he has never had chance to show what happens in Season two onwards, so he is still seen as a one trick pony...

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21 minutes ago, BristolToffee said:

From season two however he then starts adding more creativity, playing a more enjoyable style to watch.

For example at Bolton he started bringing in the likes of Jay Jay Okocha, etc. He did the same at West Ham.

He was sacked at West Ham basically because the fans hated his style of play...

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2 minutes ago, Vranny said:

He was sacked at West Ham basically because the fans hated his style of play...

Because he's shite. I'm already struggling to maintain enthusiasm for the club since Koeman took over, but if Fat Sam comes in I might go nuts

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8 hours ago, Swarzy said:

I'm not sure why Dyche is considered to have a good record and what the fuss is about. He got them to the Prem, then got relegated. Got them back up last season and narrowly survived finishing 16th.

I genuinely believe that the only reason he is getting mentioned, is down to the good start that Burnley have made this season. If Burnley were in the bottom 3, he would not be getting considered in my opinion.

 

To be fair to Dyche, his rep is coming from working on less than a shoestring and making Burnley a Premiership team.

He deserves respect for what he has done, and he's well spoken of as a man, but is that enough to get a bigger job? I'm not sure. His style is survival first, back to the wall and go from there.

I don't know if these guys who are used to working with nothing, with a survival first approach, transition well to a spend bigger, aim higher, play more expressive football type expectation. 

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Big Sam will not get anywhere near this club.

As for 'who's available'...not many are. But we as a club have to make them available. We have to show a bit of arrogance in our approach. It might cost a fee quid but getting the wrong man will cost more.

Just show real ambition Everton. Act like a big club if you want to be a big club.

Sell the project. Financial stability, transfer funds, new stadium, talented squad (yes it is!) if a bit unbalanced, and a fan base that will get right behind you if you 'connect' with them and show them you want it.

Did it properly and this current position will go down as an unfortunate blip on the learning curve.

EDIT: Regards Unsworth. I think he has the right idea about how to play the game but it's whether he can get that implemented quick enough. And how many mistakes he makes along the way as he learns. I hope he gets some wins which will buy him more time and us as a club too.

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I don't understand these shouts saying that Silva has only done the same as Dyche. 

 

Silva took over as manager of Estoril and got them promoted before going to finish 4th the next season. He won Sportings first piece of silverware for around 5 years and he went something like a 17 game winning streak with Olympiakos including beating Arsenal. They won trophies there as well.

He did a brilliant job at Hull given the time he had and he is doing brilliantly with Watford now. He hasnt just asked his side to sit back either, last year Hull beat United and Liverpool playing attacking football.

His managerial record is brilliant, far superior to most. If we can't get Tuchel and Unsworth isn't ready, we should be getting him. He only has a 2 year contract too.

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5 hours ago, sydneyneil said:

Based on his first two games, we can see that he is trying to prove a point and for me that's not what we need right now. It's the tried and failed method picking the likes of Lennon,  rather than picking the best players. He has left better players on the bench the last few games. What we need is someone to get the best out of our best players. Not someone who bins them off (Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin 2 perfect examples), and then replaces them with players who aren't good enough. I think we all agree that that starting eleven against Leicester was a relegation team (both on the pitch and on paper) and if that is who he is choosing to get him the job then he is deluded. Kenny shouldn't be playing - Holgate, whatever you think of him, is our most dependable right back now, Schneiderlin has to play, in front of any of the midfield, as does Sigurdsson, Vlasic and probably Lookman. However, looks like he's unearthed a potential gem in Baningame so I'll give him that. He's like a good version of Gueye!

How is he trying to prove a point?? He's trying to add exactly what we lacked under Koeman, pace and width. Lennon and Mirallas are senior international players, imo he was right to turn to them. But like everyone else, if they don't deliver, out they go and try someone else. But ffs it's two games, of course he had to try something!! 

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We are now one of the richest clubs in the PL, if not Europe, with potentially another big pot of money for player spending in January. We also have a new stadium in the pipeline and a huge number of assets in our squad. Why on earth shouldn't we be able to get a so-called big manager? I have a lot of respect for what Dyche has done at Burnley but I can't help but feel completely underwhelmed by all the names we are linked to. 

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3 hours ago, Bailey said:

I don't understand these shouts saying that Silva has only done the same as Dyche. 

 

Silva took over as manager of Estoril and got them promoted before going to finish 4th the next season. He won Sportings first piece of silverware for around 5 years and he went something like a 17 game winning streak with Olympiakos including beating Arsenal. They won trophies there as well.

He did a brilliant job at Hull given the time he had and he is doing brilliantly with Watford now. He hasnt just asked his side to sit back either, last year Hull beat United and Liverpool playing attacking football.

His managerial record is brilliant, far superior to most. If we can't get Tuchel and Unsworth isn't ready, we should be getting him. He only has a 2 year contract too.

Was just going to post the same, the man has been a winner at every stop of the way.  Not to mention his personal demeanor seems to be very humble and a decent man.  No ego and buffoonery (aka big sam).

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5 hours ago, Palfy said:

Some time to prove it, how long do you think he should have to prove it for me we have one more chance to get this right this season or we are facing relegation, so let's say we give him to January he has no proven ability as a 1st team manager in any first team league, yet we believe he can turn a broken team around in what many people consider the hardest league in the world for me that is massive risk that we shouldn't be taking at this moment in time, we need to get someone in like fat Sam on a short term contract with the sole objective of making sure we stay up this season, it won't be pretty but it would buy us time to find the right man, and keep our premiership status alive, where with Unsworth we'd be rolling the dice.

Koeman was given 18 months.and a boat load of money. Someone who knows and loves the club and the strengths and weaknesses of each player should have at least ten games, don’t you think?

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Just now, Cornish Steve said:

I came across the wrong way, didn’t I? I was responding to a comment above that claims he would get us relegated. At this point in time, I would expect safe and solid mid table this year. 

I’m with Steve. I think relegation statements are very premature. I even think that if nothing changed, we would still finish mid table. We’re good enough at the moment to be getting results.

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2 hours ago, Shukes said:

I can feel a revolution starting! Newty for PM! I agree with it all though. We are a big club and we at an attractive club. 

If a big manager turns away because of the challenge... then he isn’t a big manager. 

Only if I can stay living up North at number 30.

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3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

Koeman was given 18 months.and a boat load of money. Someone who knows and loves the club and the strengths and weaknesses of each player should have at least ten games, don’t you think?

If you had a company that was failing and in danger of going belly up and you had to make one appointment to save it- would you promote an assistant manager who had zero experience running a huge company llike that and was running just a department with zero pressure or a proved and tested manager who you knew could save the company- bearing in mind you had literally 28 weeks to do it.

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The other factor to consider is the compatibility of our squad with that of the manager’s style.

It was mentioned that Dyche doesn’t play with a number 10, which as we know is an area we have an abundance of. Therefore if he came on board, would he struggle due to not having the players who can deliver what he requires?

I always thought a lot of Martinez’s views made a lot of sense (i.e. statistically you’re more likely to concede from a counter attack when taking a corner than actually score, therefore it’s better to take short corners and maintain possession in an attacking area rather than hit and hope a ball into the box) and wondered if a lot of his failures were down to the fact that the players he had were not capable of playing his system, rather than his system being the issue?

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Not a chance we will have Allerdyce as our manager. They will speak to him if he expresses an interest a) Because that’s just what clubs do and b ) because it may get to a point where they have to hire him but he will be way down the list. I think the fans will revolt if he is hired. 

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3 minutes ago, Paddock said:

Not a chance we will have Allerdyce as our manager. They will speak to him if he expresses an interest a) Because that’s just what clubs do and b ) because it may get to a point where they have to hire him but he will be way down the list. I think the fans will revolt if he is hired. 

He's comin pad, whether we like it or not. As soon as I heard from a good source I looked at the betting and he had gone straight into 6/5

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