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Who should replace Koeman?

Who should be Everton's new manager?  

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  1. 1. Who would you like to see replace Ronald Koeman as manager of Everton?

    • Carlo Ancelotti
    • Thomas Tuchel
    • Eddie Howe
    • Sean Dyche
    • Brendan Rodgers
    • Sam Allardyce
    • Rafael Benitez
    • David Unsworth
    • Duncan Ferguson
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    • Someone else
    • Keep Koeman


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On 10/21/2017 at 08:45, c1982 said:

Marco Silva - did very well but ultimately relegated last season with Hull but working wonders at Watford now. His signings and style of play at both have been very impressive.

Silva is going to continue to rise up the ranks, I think. He knows how to organize a side. I would definitely be interested in prying him away from Watford. 

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42 minutes ago, MikeO said:

If Moyes comes back I'll join the Buffoon Union; that's how confident I am he won't.

In return you must praise Rom (without any reservations:P).

Is take Rom.as the next manager.....  

 

In fact I'm actually feeling a bit of the need for Peter Reid. ....  seriously it needs to be unsworth. 

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14 minutes ago, JoeQuince said:

Silva is going to continue to rise up the ranks, I think. He knows how to organize a side. I would definitely be interested in prying him away from Watford. 

Would love Silva here, but he has just signed for Watford who are backed by rich Italians so there is no chance. He will be a top top manager.

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13 minutes ago, London Blue said:

Would love Silva here, but he has just signed for Watford who are backed by rich Italians so there is no chance. He will be a top top manager.

My brother called for him last year on radio Merseyside Was laughed at. 

No one's laughing Now. 

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2 hours ago, hafnia said:

My brother called for him last year on radio Merseyside Was laughed at. 

No one's laughing Now. 

He got relegated in his first season in charge in England. He also ended up getting battered 4-2 yesterday when the game should have been out of sight. I remember a certain everton manager getting slated for performances like that.

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3 hours ago, MikeO said:

If Moyes comes back I'll join the Buffoon Union; that's how confident I am he won't.

In return you must praise Rom (without any reservations:P).

If Haf does that I will kiss my own arse.  :otvwhistle:

 

I think we will get a caretaker manager to be honest

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3 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I'd love us to try and get Rafael Benitez, but who ever it is needs to buy 3 defenders and a CF in January just to keep us up.

no comment on the fat Spanish waiter, but if we think towards the transfer window we will need to get rid of Walsh as well.

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On 2017-10-21 at 08:45, c1982 said:

Marco Silva - did very well but ultimately relegated last season with Hull but working wonders at Watford now. His signings and style of play at both have been very impressive.

Don't think he has anything to do with the signings. Not how Watford operate

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47 minutes ago, yamar said:

He got relegated in his first season in charge in England. He also ended up getting battered 4-2 yesterday when the game should have been out of sight. I remember a certain everton manager getting slated for performances like that.

He was managing Hull.

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Just now, London Blue said:

He was managing Hull.

And again, Martinez took Wigan down, yes Wigan... But everyone always uses this as a negative against the bloke when justifying how 'shit' he was.

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13 minutes ago, rubecula said:

no comment on the fat Spanish waiter, but if we think towards the transfer window we will need to get rid of Walsh as well.

I agree Walsh has played a pivotal role in this farce, and I'd rather have what the Spanish waiter is serving up, than the Dutch chuckle brothers

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2 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I agree Walsh has played a pivotal role in this farce, and I'd rather have what the Spanish waiter is serving up, than the Dutch chuckle brothers

don't shout it out too loud, but I agree.

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9 minutes ago, yamar said:

And again, Martinez took Wigan down, yes Wigan... But everyone always uses this as a negative against the bloke when justifying how 'shit' he was.

I know where your coming from, I've always felt Martinez was a good manager.

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Don't want any of the managers who are available le at present. So this means it's gonna be costly.

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46 minutes ago, yamar said:

Don't want any of the managers who are available le at present. So this means it's gonna be costly.

Martiez was expensive and so was Koeman, we need a manager who actually wants the job, at least then we may get some passion.

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2 hours ago, yamar said:

He got relegated in his first season in charge in England. He also ended up getting battered 4-2 yesterday when the game should have been out of sight. I remember a certain everton manager getting slated for performances like that.

He got relegated with a tin pot club. He's got something about him.... 100%

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2 hours ago, yamar said:

He got relegated in his first season in charge in England. He also ended up getting battered 4-2 yesterday when the game should have been out of sight. I remember a certain everton manager getting slated for performances like that.

So what? Are you blaming him for hulls relegation and then on one result against Chelsea? 

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7 hours ago, Finn balor said:

So what? Are you blaming him for hulls relegation and then on one result against Chelsea? 

No, I'm simply exposing the double standards constantly spat out on this forum.

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9 hours ago, Palfy said:

I agree Walsh has played a pivotal role in this farce, and I'd rather have what the Spanish waiter is serving up, than the Dutch chuckle brothers

My understanding is that a DoF would be involved in identifying managers. I think part of our problem is that Walsh and Koeman might not see eye to eye. The signings have been inconsistent. The approach Walsh took at Leicester was a far cry to that of Koeman. 

 

The whole point of appointing a DoF is that the club can then consistently work one way, under one philosophy and when a manager leaves, the replacement is able to slot in with little fuss.

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54 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Arteta is now 12/1. Some odd bets being placed right now. 

usually do this to stimulate the market - this all needs investigating.

 

If this drags out any longer my question will be "who replaces the board"..... I actually thought I was keeping my powder dry in coming out with my concerns over koeman and relented a bit after the mini revival we seen under him. 

His method of operating is just absurd... he has never truly engaged with the club, he makes Roy Hodgson look interesting, his man management is akin to that of someone with zero emotional intelligence.

How can someone so decorated in his playing career playing expansive football look like a sunday league manager?  He is that bad that he makes me think he's trying to get walked.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, hafnia said:

usually do this to stimulate the market - this all needs investigating.

 

If this drags out any longer my question will be "who replaces the board"..... I actually thought I was keeping my powder dry in coming out with my concerns over koeman and relented a bit after the mini revival we seen under him. 

His method of operating is just absurd... he has never truly engaged with the club, he makes Roy Hodgson look interesting, his man management is akin to that of someone with zero emotional intelligence.

How can someone so decorated in his playing career playing expansive football look like a sunday league manager?  He is that bad that he makes me think he's trying to get walked.

 

 

Maybe his next job is already lined up.  Wouldn't surprise me the way he is doing his current job.

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1 hour ago, nogs said:

The board are now complicit as far as I'm concerned. Had to go today, we will not turn it around under Koeman, carrying on is just senseless. 

Take it back. Absolutely right decision. Nice to know they can be decisive. 

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I’d take Rafa and could forgive his previous associations if he were to see the blue light. Don’t think he’d do it though and wouldn’t totally surprise me if he ends up across the park again sometime. Can’t argue that he’s a very good manager though. 

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I actually think Rafa would be ideal tbh but I can't see him leaving with the investment he's likely to get at Newcastle with less pressure etc 

I wouldn't want Howe or Dyche both are very Moyes and Martinez esq for me and I can't see either doing any better than they are at their respective clubs 

I'm not even entertaining the idea of Moyes and Allerdyce, give Rhino the reigns for the next game or two

Silva Rafa  Fonseca Anchelotti  Tuchel  any one of those for me 

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Not sure we could attract a top name manager sitting in 18th without a striker. A guy like Tuchel or Ancelotti will wait 6 months, enjoy a vacation, and get the call from a bigger club to manage.

Dyche would steady the ship, but how would he do with an actual expectation of playing attacking football, getting results, buying more expensive players.

Would love Rafa, but he's sitting above us in the table and that pain Mike Ashley is set to leave.

Silva can clearly manage, but why would he leave Watford for us right now?

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2 minutes ago, Quinn31 said:

Not sure we could attract a top name manager sitting in 18th without a striker. A guy like Tuchel or Ancelotti will wait 6 months, enjoy a vacation, and get the call from a bigger club to manage.

Dyche would steady the ship, but how would he do with an actual expectation of playing attacking football, getting results, buying more expensive players.

Would love Rafa, but he's sitting above us in the table and that pain Mike Ashley is set to leave.

Silva can clearly manage, but why would he leave Watford for us right now?

 

Here in lies our biggest problem now. Convincing a top manager of the project despite our position or take a risk and hope for the best.  

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We shouldn't have any problem attracting the right man.

As arrogant as it sounds, we are still Everton. We are one of the bigger traditional clubs. We will have a new stadium. We are still in Europe. We have only played 9 league games. We do have a good squad backed up with a tasty youth system. We do have first class training facilities. We have shown ambition. We have shown intent.

That's attractive.

BK will sell the club to anyone with his passionate speak, no problem. Moshiri has the blueprint for the future.

This is still an attractive position for the right man. Many managers will be wanting this job. We just have to get the right one.

I've no idea who that is.

I like Howe. But it's a big jump in expectation and club size for him.

Dyche. Yeah, good honest bloke but same as above.

Unsworth. I'd love to see him succeed. On of my favourite players when I was a teen. Can he have a go with an old legend like Royle helping him out? This would be my choice above anything other than a big established name.

Can we dare try to attract a big established name? That has to be the aim.

But my record is shit now! My last 2 choices have gone to piss!!!

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Even if we got Ancelotti, at the first sign of trouble, all Evertonians will turn on him because he isn't animated enough/an angry yob and then start accusing him of not caring about the club because he's used to managing bigger clubs/wants to go back. 

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1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said:

At least the shouts for Ferguson stepping up seemed to have lessened thankfully. 

If anything he should be sacked and not kept on in any capacity. He’s been part of two failed management teams now, let’s stop rewarding failure and punish it instead, no matter who you are. 

Mark, you forget that some people care more about beating their chest and having players and coaches who do the same rather than judging them by the performances they put in.

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55 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

At least the shouts for Ferguson stepping up seemed to have lessened thankfully. 

If anything he should be sacked and not kept on in any capacity. He’s been part of two failed management teams now, let’s stop rewarding failure and punish it instead, no matter who you are. 

I've been surprised by Ferguson in terms of wondering what his input is. Doesn't seem to be much!!!

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4 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said:

Here’s a dismaying, if sober, assessment.

http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3240800/ronald-koeman-exits-everton-due-to-poorly-built-squad-confusing-tactics

Punch line, in this case to the gut: “Someone is going to have to come in and rebuild this team, all over again.”

Is that true?

No, they just need to use what’s already there better, and it’s not difficult. 

In other news, Giggs has said he’s interested in the job... the arrogance of him! He’s done fuck all but thinks he can walk into a PL job? Fuck off, Ryan. 

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26 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

My dream of dreams replacement is Tuchel. But I’m very aware that will never happen, at least not right now with the dumpster fire we have going on. 

Tuchel supposedly has a difficult personality. We are a bit fragile to these types I think!

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18 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said:

Here’s a dismaying, if sober, assessment.

http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3240800/ronald-koeman-exits-everton-due-to-poorly-built-squad-confusing-tactics

Punch line, in this case to the gut: “Someone is going to have to come in and rebuild this team, all over again.”

Is that true?

Not rebuild but refocus on a system and don't worry about who is left out.

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58 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

No, they just need to use what’s already there better, and it’s not difficult. 

In other news, Giggs has said he’s interested in the job... the arrogance of him! He’s done fuck all but thinks he can walk into a PL job? Fuck off, Ryan. 

Shocking. His ass needs to go manage Bury or Rotherham United through a cold winter before he gets a job of any substance.

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8 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

still nothing on the OS about who replaces him.  I'm guessing RHino but still surprised they haven't said.

I thought it was confirmed hours ago that Rhino is in temporary charge?

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Rhino till January and if he makes a go of it surely worth sticking with him. If not Manuel Pellegrini might be a realistic target if he's had enough of China. I guess some managers have already been sounded out though. NO to Howe and Dyche.

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Honestly, I'd take Allardyce. NEVER thought I'd find myself saying that. Don't want how or silva as that would just be another martinez/koeman type punt. Neither someone like ancelotti or pellegrini on ridiculous wages and who might consider the club beneath their skills. Just want someone who will organise, stabilize and not cost the earth. He needs us as much as we need him after his england debacle. Even if he is a pastry faced crook.  So, Sam for a few seasons then and then Unsy.

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32 minutes ago, badaids said:

Honestly, I'd take Allardyce. NEVER thought I'd find myself saying that. Don't want how or silva as that would just be another martinez/koeman type punt. Neither someone like ancelotti or pellegrini on ridiculous wages and who might consider the club beneath their skills. Just want someone who will organise, stabilize and not cost the earth. He needs us as much as we need him after his england debacle. Even if he is a pastry faced crook.  So, Sam for a few seasons then and then Unsy.

Hate to say so but I agree, it is all about surviving now and he is best available for that.

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David Unsworth is the natural choice for the short term. Fact remains we have not replaced Lukaku, coupled with the worst start in 12 years we have little to no chance of attracting a top quality striker in the window unless we sign a world class manager.

Allardyce is a manager to keep teams up, he never wins anything. You only appoint if you have no money and are looking certain to go down, neither of which are the case. Personally I would go for Ancelloti and go all out to get the best striker we can get. I am just surprised that it took until the 9th game, it was not as if they were close run results as we was getting played off the pitch!

I have no doubt in the quality of the players we signed in the window. Sandro will be great and Calvert-Lewin is one for the future, both however need an experience striker to learn from. Rooney should have been a role model, he has turned in to an embarrassment.

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