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Who should replace Koeman?

Who should be Everton's new manager?  

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  1. 1. Who would you like to see replace Ronald Koeman as manager of Everton?

    • Carlo Ancelotti
    • Thomas Tuchel
    • Eddie Howe
    • Sean Dyche
    • Brendan Rodgers
    • Sam Allardyce
    • Rafael Benitez
    • David Unsworth
    • Duncan Ferguson
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    • Someone else
    • Keep Koeman


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1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said:

Did we? I certainly never thought so he did well with Wigan that's it 

I think many were happy and slightly gung-ho to get him in due to being suicidal with Moyes, Silva has far more about him than Martinez 

He won the fa cup with, lets face it, a second division side. He got the highest points tally with an everton side.

Some may say it was Moyes's side, but the truth be told, Moyes was incapable of reaching the same points tally with the same side.

Martinez will prove to be a very good manager. You heard it here first.

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12 minutes ago, yamar said:

He won the fa cup with, lets face it, a second division side. He got the highest points tally with an everton side.

Some may say it was Moyes's side, but the truth be told, Moyes was incapable of reaching the same points tally with the same side.

Martinez will prove to be a very good manager. You heard it here first.

Fuck off I've said that before:)

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58 minutes ago, yamar said:

He won the fa cup with, lets face it, a second division side. He got the highest points tally with an everton side.

Some may say it was Moyes's side, but the truth be told, Moyes was incapable of reaching the same points tally with the same side.

Martinez will prove to be a very good manager. You heard it here first.

He needs to be able to manage a team who have such a strong attack it compensates for the lack of defensive coaching/instructions.

He will do well at belgium no doubt, but he needs to because he hasn't got the capability of coaching a weak team.

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2 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said:

He needs to be able to manage a team who have such a strong attack it compensates for the lack of defensive coaching/instructions.

He will do well at belgium no doubt, but he needs to because he hasn't got the capability of coaching a weak team.

Erm.... he managed Wigan and kept them in the division for far longer than he should and won them a bloody FA Cup. I still remember how easily they battered us enough route to the final. Embarrassing. 

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Just now, Bailey said:

Erm.... he managed Wigan and kept them in the division for far longer than he should and won them a bloody FA Cup. I still remember how easily they battered us enough route to the final. Embarrassing. 

Yeah I guess I'm discrediting him a little bit, but after seeing what he did to us defensively I have reason.

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41 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Is there anyway someone is able to tell mariner "you completely fucked that one up"... as in 4th official?

 

35 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Steve walsh spotted demarai gray.... thats somrthin

 

32 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Tackle that davies

Thread?

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We need someone who will come in and organise them. Unsworth isn't up to the job don't care what anyone says.

We are in deep deep trouble. Still say to this day what the fuck were we doing spending £40m on Sigurdsson awful player. We are fucked 

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6 hours ago, EFC-Paul said:

Did we? I certainly never thought so he did well with Wigan that's it 

I think many were happy and slightly gung-ho to get him in due to being suicidal with Moyes, Silva has far more about him than Martinez 

He won the fa cup with, lets face it, a second division side. He got the highest points tally with an everton side.

Some may say it was Moyes's side, but the truth be told, Moyes was incapable of reaching the same points tally with the same side.

Martinez will prove to be a very good manager. You heard it here first.

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After today, I'm leaning more towards benitez. You know what you get with him. He would come in, organise the side and grind out 1-0 wins until he has his own team.

One thing is, we will stop conceding at the rate we are currently.

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This isn't appealing to anybody at the moment. Our starting eleven against Leicester was a relegation team. Its up there with Sunderlands team last year. DCL, Mirallas and Lennon upfront??? Rooney in behind? Jonjo Kenny, Jagielka, Williams and Baines is a back four which takes you down make no mistake. It's not like I'm missing out the midfield just because they're outstanding either. Gueye will do a job as will Davies but that's it. We brought on Oumar Niasse to get us a goal. He was predominantly a sub last tear - for Hull City. We also brought on a guy for his first Premier League appearance.  Sigurdsson for me is a good player but Unsworth will continue to pick Rooney ahead of him for thoughts just known to himself right now. But as a squad, that's exactly where we are right now. 

We need a manager who can keep us up this year that's it. Unless Moshiri promises huge investment again in January - and this is irrelevant if we can't get the players, I struggle to see how on earth we attract Tuchel or alike. I can never see Moshiri going for the likes of Allardyce or even Dyche, but it looks liker they're the best we can get. If they don't want Dyche long term then we are not going to pay for him. What a depressing situation...........

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I think with such low confidence around the side and the need for a win alladyce is a far better choice than anyone fancy like Tunchel.

For me the correct approach is get the defence right even if that means playing 5 and play some long ball to keep it simple and get the results. Unsworths I have a way of playing and I will stick to my principles shows a complete lack of flexibility. Right now we need dirty wins and uncompromising defence. I don't give a fuck about the Everton way for the next 6 months. Or what the fans expect. That's why unsworth won't get the job as he hasn't had that pressure to get results anyway possible. Watford manager or alladyce would be my choices as they have done it at that level.

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You go all out for Benitez if you want someone who can not only turn a side around and steady the ship a kin to Allerdyce but can also take us forward given a little bit of time 

Allerdyce and co will come in drill a side keep them safe and that's it we need someone who can stay with us and progress us with a minimal amount of transfer windows and change 

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Manager wanted:-

4th most successful side in England, passionate fan base with 40k fans every home game with new stadium in the pipeline.... backed by billionaire....  £6m per annum plus bonuses

doesn't look the worst job in the world does it....

 

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Just now, StevO said:

Someone get on the phone to him now!!!

If we could get him and convince both him to take Unsworth as his assistant, we'd have the passion and knowledge of the team with an experienced, winning manager (assuming Unsworth would want to play second fiddle, which he might if he looks to the med-long term)

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1 minute ago, Peter H said:

Id rather have Graham Potter to be honest. I rate Ancelotti but he is a bit of a sell sword. I want someone who wants to stay for a long time and do it well.

Had to google that high-profile, success-laden manager :P

For the long term, that's why I want Unsworth to be assistant to whoever gets the job

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59 minutes ago, Matt said:

If we could get him and convince both him to take Unsworth as his assistant, we'd have the passion and knowledge of the team with an experienced, winning manager (assuming Unsworth would want to play second fiddle, which he might if he looks to the med-long term)

Perfect scenario. Or as close to perfect as we can get.

Realistic? Who knows.

But I hope the board are calmer than some of our fans who are panicking. We need calm heads as this decision is vital.

Can't believe we find ourselves in this predicament. Really can't.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Perfect scenario. Or as close to perfect as we can get.

Realistic? Who knows.

But I hope the board are calmer than some of our fans who are panicking. We need calm heads as this decision is vital.

Can't believe we find ourselves in this predicament. Really can't.

I'm really not surprised which is why I'm not panicking yet. It was bound to happen. 

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Just now, Matt said:

I'm really not surprised which is why I'm not panicking yet. It was bound to happen. 

Even with the influx of too many central players during the summer, I didn't see this being the way!

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3 hours ago, Newty82 said:

Even with the influx of too many central players during the summer, I didn't see this being the way!

Seems my other post go lost on my phone...

I did see it coming, it was clear from Koemans actions towards players last season and the mass change; 8 established out and 11 in during his reign. He did the same mistake as Martinez; I did well the first season, now fuck transition, I'm doing it my way. The sheer arrogance of the man was his downfall, but instead of being a stubborn, charismatic man, he was a stubborn bully, and no one works well under a bully

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What's happened?

July - Koeman and top four

October - fat Sam and relegation.

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

Seems my other post go lost on my phone...

I did see it coming, it was clear from Koemans actions towards players last season and the mass change; 8 established out and 11 in during his reign. He did the same mistake as Martinez; I did well the first season, now fuck transition, I'm doing it my way. The sheer arrogance of the man was his downfall, but instead of being a stubborn, charismatic man, he was a stubborn bully, and no one works well under a bully

But why was he allowed to make such sweeping changes? Koeman fucked up and has lost his job as a result. But the mess we made of the squad transition is sign of a bigger problem to me. Surely it's Walsh's job to stop that happen? We know have a far inferior squad to the one we had when Walsh arrived. 

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2 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Dyche just beat Benitez in the 'Everton Manager Play Off 1st Round'.

Of every player on that pitch I'd have Shelvey though. A midfielder who can pass, who'd have thunk it. 

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22 minutes ago, nogs said:

Of every player on that pitch I'd have Shelvey though. A midfielder who can pass, who'd have thunk it. 

Indeed

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14 minutes ago, Paddock said:

Was just going to post this. I don’t want Dyche 😡

Neither do I really.

I don't want us to keep plucking from 'lower' teams in the hope that it works. I'd ideally like us to get an established name.

But are we in that category that can attract such a name? You'd hope so, and money talks at the end of the day! Plenty of good stuff going on on paper, is that enough?

Dyche is the best of the rest I guess. He'd do a job here but I'm not sure he'd do much more. And his style is too safe for what we want.

I'm sure the board are sounding out the higher end targets first.

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Dyche has been brilliant for Burnley with their backs to the wall approach however I really don't know how that will transfer to better players and the expectation of not playing for a draw every game. Is he going to be as effective when his team are expected to win and the other side are sitting back? 

 

I'm really not convinced.

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11 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Dyche has been brilliant for Burnley with their backs to the wall approach however I really don't know how that will transfer to better players and the expectation of not playing for a draw every game. Is he going to be as effective when his team are expected to win and the other side are sitting back? 

 

I'm really not convinced.

This for me, he will steady the ship but I don't think he is the man to take us forward.

I would be happy with Unsworth and a good mentor to guide him at this level were aiming for,  for a season or two, then he takes over fully.

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Sean Dyche would need a massive clear out to make his methods work. Look at who he uses at number 10 for a start - nothing like Rooney, Sigurdsson, Klaasen etc. I don't see it being a good fit again, more of the same recruiting without a long term plan. Who would set transfer policy for example, Walsh or Dyche? I'm worried. 

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8 minutes ago, nogs said:

Sean Dyche would need a massive clear out to make his methods work. Look at who he uses at number 10 for a start - nothing like Rooney, Sigurdsson, Klaasen etc. I don't see it being a good fit again, more of the same recruiting without a long term plan. Who would set transfer policy for example, Walsh or Dyche? I'm worried. 

Does he even use a number 10?

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He's not my first choice, but I do wonder if he's the type of personality we need, not just now but for the future too; someone who will discipline but with the right character. I won't be upset if he gets the job, but I will be disappointed if he's our first choice.

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Dyche is going to be another Moyes, this isn't what we need, yes maybe short term it is but long term it really isn't. I like Dyche but I don't want him here. We should be aiming higher but unfortunately the position we are in at present moment may deter possible better suitors.

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