markjazzbassist Posted November 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: Unreasonable to sell Klaassen after six months hardly got time under the other manager, isn't getting time under this one, sell while his value is still high. if he plays like shit the rest of the year or doesn't play well be selling him back to ajax for 10m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, markjazzbassist said: hardly got time under the other manager, isn't getting time under this one, sell while his value is still high. if he plays like shit the rest of the year or doesn't play well be selling him back to ajax for 10m. My point still stands. Respectable clubs don't sell players after six months. This isn't non-league. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Luke Shaw can't get a game after a fallout. He could replace Baines. A striker must come from outside the UK cos there is no decent ones here. Bluemineck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Bill said: Luke Shaw can't get a game after a fallout. He could replace Baines. A striker must come from outside the UK cos there is no decent ones here. Thought about him a lot but I think he may never be the player he once was now due to injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Keanes mate at Burnley might be an improvement on what we have at the moment, they formed a decent pairing playing in the back 4 together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Bill said: Keanes mate at Burnley might be an improvement on what we have at the moment, they formed a decent pairing playing in the back 4 together. Mee? Or tairovski however you spell It!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Aidan Lewis said: Mee? Or tairovski however you spell It!? Mee. Tarkowski couldn’t get in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Either of them, the foreigner who came in place of Keane has played well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Look at mikhitarian ( however it's spelt ) at united. Klassen has struggled yes but it would be crazy to sell him already. MikeO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 bored at work here is what i found. Contracts ending this summer from the First Team Barkley Jags Lennon Robles The only one worth keeping to me is Barkley (if he will stay). Maybe lennon on a 1/2 year deal if he's willing to be a bench/cup player. U23 Conor Grant Foulds Henen Antony Evans Morgan Feeney Interesting that Foulds and Henen never made the grade. Foulds was a martinez buy supposed to be a good CB, and Henen Martinez as a winger. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Think they'll all get extensions except Robles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Matt said: Think they'll all get extensions except Robles. jags? i will be livid if he does. he needs to be put out to pasture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 31 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: jags? i will be livid if he does. he needs to be put out to pasture. First off Mark, Lennon would never accept a 1/2 year contract (or do you mean 1-2 years... Big difference) nor would he accept it. See my prior comment re: Klaassen on how this isn't non-league football Second, I think depending on his fitness and performance through the end of the year, Jags could potentially get an extension, though he obviously needs to become our fourth choice centerback or so over the next year or two and be there as more of cover and an ambassador rather than a weekly starting 11 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: First off Mark, Lennon would never accept a 1/2 year contract (or do you mean 1-2 years... Big difference) nor would he accept it. See my prior comment re: Klaassen on how this isn't non-league football Second, I think depending on his fitness and performance through the end of the year, Jags could potentially get an extension, though he obviously needs to become our fourth choice centerback or so over the next year or two and be there as more of cover and an ambassador rather than a weekly starting 11 guy. didn't mean the fraction meant 1-2 year contract. he's 30 (will be 31 in april) and a winger, not a huge demand for that, could be solid on the bench/cups. not interested in the dead wood anymore, we need quality players who can contribute. carried him this year as ambassador/captian/nice guy and we should have gotten rid of him. instead mori goes down, williams sucks and we have jags. we could have had someone better. i worry the same will happen next year (williams is on a long term deal i doubt he's going anywhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: didn't mean the fraction meant 1-2 year contract. he's 30 (will be 31 in april) and a winger, not a huge demand for that, could be solid on the bench/cups. not interested in the dead wood anymore, we need quality players who can contribute. carried him this year as ambassador/captian/nice guy and we should have gotten rid of him. instead mori goes down, williams sucks and we have jags. we could have had someone better. i worry the same will happen next year (williams is on a long term deal i doubt he's going anywhere). Big clubs will carry an extra player if he's a talisman, even if he makes fewer than 15-20 appearances per year. You're clearly not mad that our 35 year old club captain is in the squad, you're mad that he's the 2nd best centerback we have and not the fifth. I agree with you. Also, Williams is in his second year of a three year deal. He should be allowed to leave for a small fee or no fee next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: Big clubs will carry an extra player if he's a talisman, even if he makes fewer than 15-20 appearances per year. You're clearly not mad that our 35 year old club captain is in the squad, you're mad that he's the 2nd best centerback we have and not the fifth. I agree with you. Also, Williams is in his second year of a three year deal. He should be allowed to leave for a small fee or no fee next summer. he's already 5th choice. Keane Williams Holgate Mori Jags. Maybe 6th and i agree agreed on williams he needs to go and i'm sure bournemouth or something would take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: jags? i will be livid if he does. he needs to be put out to pasture. He's our best defender, still. I think he'll get a 12 month contract with option to extend for another year. With all the change going on, and lack of quality around there, I'll be made up Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: he's already 5th choice. Keane Williams Holgate Mori Jags. Maybe 6th and i agree agreed on williams he needs to go and i'm sure bournemouth or something would take him. First off, bold statement. Not sure we've defined who our number 2 centerback is. Pretty clear Keane is the first centerback on the teamsheet when he's fit. Your problem is that Williams isn't up it anymore (at least hasn't been this season), Funes Mori is injured and the jury is still out on his quality (Shocking since he's been here two years) and Holgate's not quite ready yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Matt said: He's our best defender, still. I think he'll get a 12 month contract with option to extend for another year. With all the change going on, and lack of quality around there, I'll be made up He was our 4th best defender on Sunday! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 06/11/2017 at 20:10, Bill said: Either of them, the foreigner who came in place of Keane has played well. James Tarkowski is a Manc... foreigner is about right then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 I like the look of Lenglet at Sevilla for centre back - not a full international yet. I think if Unsworth is in place he’ll take a look at Gibson from Middlesbrough too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Kieran Tierney from Celtic as a potential leftback replacement, anybody? Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Quinn31 said: Kieran Tierney from Celtic as a potential leftback replacement, anybody? He does look very promising and could probably already be a start for a lower PL team (which we are atm). He just signed a new contract though... not sure if we'd be able to get him anytime soon. LB is priority. Baines won't last forever, and he's on the decline (as much as I hate to admit that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Quinn31 said: Kieran Tierney from Celtic as a potential leftback replacement, anybody? just signed a 6 year contract within the last 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmytheJimster Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Luke Shaw from Utd, was doing well until he broke his leg, and has been unlucky with managers, think with a run of games he could get back to were he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 I think his problem is between the ears. We don't need another bottler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Bailey said: I think his problem is between the ears. We don't need another bottler. He’s also got bigger boobs than some girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He’s also got bigger boobs than some girls. He isn't the only one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'd like to see us bring in a number 10. And return Dowell back from loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: I'd like to see us bring in a number 10. And return Dowell back from loan. How many number 10s do we need in the squad? Plus Dowell won’t be returning any time soon. I’m pretty sure Forest would have to agree to his release and that’s not going to happen with his current form. Personally I’m just thrilled to see him develop his game at championship level. He’s one of those types of players that I was worried would struggle to find game time In the lower leagues due to his physical attributes. Look at how Barkley’s loans in the championship went and he’s physically a beast in comparison. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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