London Blue Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just win, I don't care how, or what formation, just get 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I think I would play Siggy (or barkley) like Pep uses De Bruyne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, London Blue said: Just win, I don't care how, or what formation, just get 3 points. Agreed. Generally the conversation and debate on matchday threads concerns formation, strategy, starters, positioning. Clearly all Everton fans are desperate to win today. My view is that our best chance - today, against this specific team, in the specific, troubling circumstances we find ourselves in - is to attack, press, be aggressive, relentless. Partly it’s best because a slow, cautious start will likely sour the crowd. Sour crowd likely to deflate already low energy. Vicious circle, etc. But energetic pressing and attacking from beginning will be reflected in energetic crowd, which in turn will continue to energize players. We also regularly debate - to put it mildly - the merits of this player or that. I want Niasse to start. Others plausibly contend he’s best used as sub. I think Sigurdsson and Rooney should start. Some others think Sigurdsson purchase a massive mistake, and that Rooney’s past it, way past. I want at least 2 attacking wingers to start. On this point there may be a consensus right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Vlasic not on the bench? Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Zero pace- zero width no Sandro on the bench players out of position 2 holding midfielders. Like Koeman never left. dunlopp9987, EFC-Paul and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Nor Mirallas. Unsworth seems to like Lennon. Vlasic And Mirallas, not right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I'd guess he plans first the reverse of what we saw at Leicester. Keep it tight first half then bring on wingers later on. Definitely a surprise not to see mirallas or Vlasic. Is there no word of an injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 5 central midfielders in there. What can go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I would have thought Vlasic would at least be on the bench. Not sure we'll line up as it shows but no doubt the width will come from Kenny and Baines. To be fair, I feel confident in the back 4 plus the 2 in front, it's just up the other end that makes me wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Newty82 said: Not sure we'll line up as it shows but no doubt the width will come from Kenny and Baines. That seems right. I’m happy to see Kenny and Baines attacking, and hope Baines has enough to get back on the Watford counter. Hope that both DMs stay back, especially when either fullback provides width coming forward. Gana has been useless going forward anyway, and worse than useless when caught behind the opponent’s counterattack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Good to see Robles back in the bench though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, Shukes said: Good to see Robles back in the bench though. He's been there for all four of Unsy's games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 No width at all and not many options to change it significantly from the bench. It just looks to me that already unsworth is out of ideas and clasping at straws. He’s made radical changes to every line up he’s put out. I think we need a bit of consistency and stability in the line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, MikeO said: He's been there for all four of Unsy's games. Bloody hell, haven’t even noticed haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Playing for a clean sheet to gain some confidence, seeing if we can nick one late on. it's not a bad idea but it's an idea he should have implemented from the very first minute he took charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said: That seems right. I’m happy to see Kenny and Baines attacking, and hope Baines has enough to get back on the Watford counter. Hope that both DMs stay back, especially when either fullback provides width coming forward. Gana has been useless going forward anyway, and worse than useless when caught behind the opponent’s counterattack. From what I understand (limited!), the idea of using the full backs and DM's is that as the Full Backs go forward, the CB's split and one of the DM's sits in as cover. We've not been doing that this season. But it could be seen previously and in other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Newty82 said: From what I understand (limited!), the idea of using the full backs and DM's is that as the Full Backs go forward, the CB's split and one of the DM's sits in as cover. Yes. Although I very much favor Baines and Kenny getting forward a lot to provide width and crosses, they must also be prepared to run all match to defend the counter, too. As to one of the DMs sitting in, I hope both Gana and Baningime mostly stay back, so that either Sigurdsson or Davies drops into midfield as the passing CM. I just don’t see much value, and some danger, in Gana going forward. Baningime, not sure about his chops going forward. Unsworth sure likes him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: Playing for a clean sheet to gain done confidence, seeing if we can nick one late on. I hope this is not his plan. We need to score a first half goal. We desperately need to get the crowd roaring its approval of an energized, attacking team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 What does Unsy see in Baningime that has him starting ahead of Besic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, Peter H said: What does Unsy see in Baningime that has him starting ahead of Besic? Been our best player under unsy Bailey, pete0 and Vranny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Sigurdsson and Rooney starting, urghh... Surely Vlasic must be injured, either that or he has done or said something out of turn, he was our best player before Koeman left. Based on that team tho, we won't win. Please, please prove me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Peter H said: What does Unsy see in Baningime that has him starting ahead of Besic? Obviously you've been on holiday the past few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: Been our best player under unsy That's not saying much. Vranny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Why no width, why no pace, why play players out of position. Unsworth you disappoint me. Why is there no Vlasic, who has looked our most creative player this season. Sooner we get a proper manager in the better. We are better than this, we must be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I have no idea what that starting 11 is about. Maybe 442 with Siggy and Davies wider? All a bit strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, London Blue said: That's not saying much. No but what it is doing is answering a question someone asked:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 433 with Rooney left and Siggy right. Good pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: No but what it is doing is answering a question someone asked:) I am just adding perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Rooney gives Baines no protection at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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