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He is talking shit in the press as to why we lost... not enough goal scorers and not taking our chances... would be nice if we created some chances... at the team with one of the worst home defences in the league.

Get him out.

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7 minutes ago, c1982 said:

I’m clinging on to my belief that there’s 10 games left with Allardyce at the helm. Anything less... bonus! Anything more... just no!!!

It's just embarrassing; feel for the local lads.

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I don’t understand keeping him on now, especially if as soon as the season finishes - we sack him and replace him.

 

surey these last 10 games are ideal for a new manager to get in, have a look at the players and decide who he likes/who moves on. We need Europe as well, when you look at the size of our squad and the money we are wasting on wages it’s incredible.

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Thing that struck me yesteday was that before Watford scored, Bolasie and Morgan were going to come on. In my eyes at the time, that was us settling for a draw. Morgan isn'tt a player you bring in when you are chasing a game, or wanting to charge after a winning goal. At the moment, he isn'tt a player you bring in at all.

When Watford scored, it was DCL that came on with Bolasie. Now from a losing position, we were going for a draw again.

But why wasn't DCL coming on in the first place? You know, to go for all 3 points?

And that's the issue. The mentality is all wrong. We were going to settle for a draw away at Watford! This is why we are getting smashed by the top 6. Mentally, we have no chance at all.

We need to get all our points at Goodison because away from the Grand Old Lady, this lot have self detonated.

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6 hours ago, Btay said:

I don’t understand keeping him on now, especially if as soon as the season finishes - we sack him and replace him.

 

surey these last 10 games are ideal for a new manager to get in, have a look at the players and decide who he likes/who moves on. We need Europe as well, when you look at the size of our squad and the money we are wasting on wages it’s incredible.

If Silva’s our man - that’s great, get rid of Sam and build now but I’ve got a feeling that we really want Fonseca and will have to wait until the summer to make it happen. We need Roma to overturn Shakhtar’s lead after the first leg though as, carry on like they are, and Fonseca will have much better offers than here available to him come the summer.

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1 hour ago, Newty82 said:

Thing that struck me yesteday was that before Watford scored, Bolasie and Morgan were going to come on. In my eyes at the time, that was us settling for a draw. Morgan isn'ttt a player you bring in when you are chasing a game, or wanting to charge after a winning goal. At the moment, he isn'ttt a player you bring in at all.

When Watford scored, it was DCL that came on with Bolasie. Now from a losing position, we were going for a draw again.

But why wasn't DCL coming on in the first place? You know, to go for all 3 points?

And that's the issue. The mentality is all wrong. We were going to settle for a draw away at Watford! This is why we are getting smashed by the top 6. Mentally, we have no chance at all.

We need to get all our points at Goodison because away from the Grand Old Lady, this lot have self detonated.

We settle for a draw in every single game we play under this man. He just hopes we'll nick a goal to win them from a punt up the field. It's embarrassing. 

Seeing Schneiderlin coming on at that point sent me ape shit. I could not believe what I was seeing (well, I could to be honest!).

 

Just to make everyone feel better -

 

 This fella has zero fucking ambition beyond a paycheck. Fuck. Him. Off. Now.

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I don’t understand keeping him on now, especially if as soon as the season finishes - we sack him and replace him.
 
surey these last 10 games are ideal for a new manager to get in, have a look at the players and decide who he likes/who moves on. We need Europe as well, when you look at the size of our squad and the money we are wasting on wages it’s incredible.

What if the man they want is still employed a another club, especially if his current club are still involved in the Champions League (Fonseca) ?




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If Silva’s our man - that’s great, get rid of Sam and build now but I’ve got a feeling that we really want Fonseca and will have to wait until the summer to make it happen. We need Roma to overturn Shakhtar’s lead after the first leg though as, carry on like they are, and Fonseca will have much better offers than here available to him come the summer.

Ha ha I should have read the rest of the thread before replying !


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Every game that this odious prick manages us is a damning statement of just how Everton have slipped..... nothing to do with money - all about decision making.

Get him out of our club now. Enough is enough.

In another season with different permutations we would be getting relegated under this clown. 

The players need addressing too. A team of psychologists need to do some work on many of them. Clear the decks. 

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Thing that struck me yesteday was that before Watford scored, Bolasie and Morgan were going to come on. In my eyes at the time, that was us settling for a draw. Morgan isn'ttt a player you bring in when you are chasing a game, or wanting to charge after a winning goal. At the moment, he isn'ttt a player you bring in at all.
When Watford scored, it was DCL that came on with Bolasie. Now from a losing position, we were going for a draw again.
But why wasn't DCL coming on in the first place? You know, to go for all 3 points?
And that's the issue. The mentality is all wrong. We were going to settle for a draw away at Watford! This is why we are getting smashed by the top 6. Mentally, we have no chance at all.
We need to get all our points at Goodison because away from the Grand Old Lady, this lot have self detonated.

To be fair if your intention is to settle for a draw the last player you would bring on is Bolasie


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3 hours ago, c1982 said:

If Silva’s our man - that’s great, get rid of Sam and build now but I’ve got a feeling that we really want Fonseca and will have to wait until the summer to make it happen. We need Roma to overturn Shakhtar’s lead after the first leg though as, carry on like they are, and Fonseca will have much better offers than here available to him come the summer.

Would you choose Silva after watching Watford yesterday? As Deeney said to the press, it was dire from both teams. 

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2 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Would you choose Silva after watching Watford yesterday? As Deeney said to the press, it was dire from both teams. 

Yes, as he’s not their manager so he didn’t have any influence on yesterday. I’ve seen enough of Silva, at Hull last season and Watford this, before we rocked the boat, to think he’ll be an exciting manager for us - I’d definitely have him here.... BUT Fonseca, although a risk, could be an incredible coup. Either will do me just fine.

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3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

We settle for a draw in every single game we play under this man. He just hopes we'll nick a goal to win them from a punt up the field. It's embarrassing. 

Seeing Schneiderlin coming on at that point sent me ape shit. I could not believe what I was seeing (well, I could to be honest!).

 

Just to make everyone feel better -

 

 This fella has zero fucking ambition beyond a paycheck. Fuck. Him. Off. Now.

I saw that tweet yesterday and that makes it clear as to how bad we have been under him. I expected us to be tighter at the back but we aren't. We are creating less and the general play is shite. This is why Allardyce is boring! 

3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:


To be fair if your intention is to settle for a draw the last player you would bring on is Bolasie

 

If you are bringing on Bolasie, I would argue that you have no intention of trying to win!

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13 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Would you choose Silva after watching Watford yesterday? As Deeney said to the press, it was dire from both teams. 

Watford have deteriorated after Silva left, if anything that Watford performance is proof of Silva's talents as a manager.

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Allardyce sets the team up for 0-0 and hopes we might occasionally nick one, regardless of whether we are home or away, or playing Tranmere or Barcelona he is serverly lacking in tactical abilities you need to go out and try to win a game.

He was brought here for those reasons, make us hard to beat and keep us in this league whilst the board are hopeful securing a replacement, if they are not and they’ve got any designs on him staying on after this season, then I for one will not be engaging in anything too do with this club until he has gone, I’m quite aware that may please most of you and some may start up keep Allardyce thread.

Yesterday was a telling endorsement to his philosophy defend when there is nothing to defend against, the 1st half was a dire bore both teams set up to defend, in the 2nd half the Watford manager realised this game was for the taking and went for it with positive subs, Allardyce should have said we can win this and made changes to take the game. 

All he did was to react to there more offensive moves before they scored, to try and make us more defensive by putting Schneiderlin and Bolassie on, Bolassie would have been told to concentrate more on backing up Cuco than getting forward. 

It’s time for him to go he’s for filled his brief. 

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Sam it appears we are stuck with each other until the end of the season. Just incase you read this here are a few thoughts that will make the time a lot easier for all of us:

1) Stop playing Rooney when he is out of form. His short passing game is shocking and he is adding little to the team please play Siggy in there where he can do a better job.

2) Stop switching center backs around, pick 2 and play them. I vote Holgate and Keane as they both have a future with us ahead of them.

3) Stop playing Niasse as a starter, his lack of quality is obvious and it is hindering us as an attacking force. As a stat man please see the one about us having less shots than 11 of our last 14 opponents.

4) Start using Cenk, we signed him and he needs game time, whether this is starting or from the subs bench I leave to you, but he needs to be playing.

5) Which means that if your not going to start Cenk then use DCL as I think we would like to see him play upfront along with Walcott and Vlasic in an attacking 3.

6) This leads me on to using wingers as wingers not "make do players" so please use Vlasic or even Bolasie (but ideally Vlasic) with Theo and DCL in an attacking 3.

7) We are not a bottom 3 club, we want to see our teams go for the win when we have the chance, so sticking Schneiderlin on when we are 0 - 0 in a game we can win is not acceptable, just like starting a back 5 against West Brom or a uber defensive set up against Bournemouth when they are struggling. 

8) You put Garbutt in the squad so lets use him shall we, just to give him a chance to see if he can do a job for us.

So follow these 8 simple points and when you do leave in the summer it wont be in total ignominy, just some ignominy.

PS - If you could stop talking crap that would help, if you cant manage that the to quote Clement Attlee "A period of silence on your part would be welcome"

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Go now please Sam, its mine and my sons first year as a season ticket holders, we would like to renew and continue to support this great club, but while your here, it's In question.

You have a reputation for making teams difficult to beat, clearly that ability has passed, so be honest with yourself, that is if you have the ability to do so, and not continue to be delusional, and do the decent thing for everyone who loves this club.

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31 minutes ago, nutmegwolf203 said:

What does he know?

MF Idrissa Gueye, 7 -- His importance to the team is never clearer than during these lifeless collective outings. Won a game-high nine tackles while trying to plug the gaps left by others.

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23 minutes ago, MikeO said:

What does he know?

MF Idrissa Gueye, 7 -- His importance to the team is never clearer than during these lifeless collective outings. Won a game-high nine tackles while trying to plug the gaps left by others.

That could be damning for us if it was fact that he is our best player, it would condemn us to a bleak future, fortunately he isn’t and when he and few others get moved out we can look to improve. 

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14 minutes ago, Palfy said:

That could be damning for us if it was fact that he is our best player, it would condemn us to a bleak future, fortunately he isn’t and when he and few others get moved out we can look to improve. 

Image result for cloud cuckoo land

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6 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Image result for cloud cuckoo land

Do you think so, see I really don't think he's good enough to be in a team that want to get to the top echelons of the premiere league, he may look adequate in 4-5 games a season in this current poor team but he's not for the future so let's get rid of the players that can't take us further, or stay in state of mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

And before you suggest it that wasn't a party political broadcast on behalf of the conservative party😁

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45 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Do you think so, see I really don't think he's good enough to be in a team that want to get to the top echelons of the premiere league, he may look adequate in 4-5 games a season in this current poor team but he's not for the future so let's get rid of the players that can't take us further, or stay in state of mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

And before you suggest it that wasn't a party political broadcast on behalf of the conservative party😁

You are saying he is a player who you don't think can get us to the top level of the premier league... that may well be the case but when we have players who are more than capable of taking us down the league then I think there are bigger issues. 

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46 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Is there any vehicle for the fans to seriously voice their displeasure to moshiri and co?

Walsh can get gone too - Sam is his boy.

No. They won't want to hear criticism and to the current regime I don't get the feeling that we fans matter. So much for The People's Club. Sad times

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15 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:


What if the man they want is still employed a another club, especially if his current club are still involved in the Champions League (Fonseca) ?



 

 

16 hours ago, c1982 said:

If Silva’s our man - that’s great, get rid of Sam and build now but I’ve got a feeling that we really want Fonseca and will have to wait until the summer to make it happen. We need Roma to overturn Shakhtar’s lead after the first leg though as, carry on like they are, and Fonseca will have much better offers than here available to him come the summer.

Absolutely respect and agree with these points - I guess it’s sheer frustration. As long as we have a clear plan to alter the route we are on, because it’s just dire!

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Honestly I think Silva is the best we can get. Fonseca might be out of our league now with the shit we are in.  Better offers from CL or Europa teams I think.

He has regularly stated his desire to manage in the Premier League

Of the top 6 there is only maybe Conte and Wenger whose jobs are under threat and I don’t see either of those clubs going for Fonseca

I would be fairly confident of getting him if we made an approach.



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6 hours ago, jofanon said:

What amazes me about this dick head is the regularity in which he assigns no blame to himself.

Every management book ever will say protect your team when they do badly and when you do well then credit the team rather than yourself

Right, he has no diplomacy. That much is in his control. He doesn't care about the club at all. 

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I think he knows he has been found out and can’t be arsed with the hassle. He is used to the plaudits and revels in the pay offs with shitty teams but I think building a team is past him now and he wants the easy pay offs. These next ten games are going to be close on unwatchable. Like the man says this season is a write off. Get rid before the last couple of games and get Fonseca in. I’m hoping that was the original plan all along 

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4 hours ago, Finn balor said:

I think he knows he has been found out and can’t be arsed with the hassle. He is used to the plaudits and revels in the pay offs with shitty teams but I think building a team is past him now and he wants the easy pay offs. These next ten games are going to be close on unwatchable. Like the man says this season is a write off. Get rid before the last couple of games and get Fonseca in. I’m hoping that was the original plan all along 

Anyone who thinks the seasons a write off needs there head screwing back on....

the last 10 games we need to get Cenk settled, see if Klaassen can adapt to the league, get Coleman back fit, work out what CB’s to keep for next year.

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9 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

steve that would be best for both of us.  they get him to shore them up and hope they stay up, we get a real manager either silva, unsworth for the rest of the campaign or we dream for fonseca.

 

got me excited steve, which hasn't happened with everton for a few months.

If he blames the players each week for his own ineptitude, can you imagine the things of which he'll accuse Everton when he's fired? All the blame will be ours, and he'll be the innocent victim. This won't be pretty, but it's necessary.

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6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

I reckon we'll be approaching Arteta (as well as others).

Was just only thinking about Arteta. Wandering why, when he wanted to get into coaching we didn’t step in to help him.

Mot sure he’s what we need right now as he is as green as they come. But would like to see him make the step up.

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