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1 hour ago, Newty82 said:

I'm in too deep now gents! She knows too much!

I enjoy DIY tbh, mostly...done all sorts over time...but a kitchen, that's another world! Never again.

i enjoy DIY too Newts, love spending time out in the yard doing little projects, fresh air and some alone time left to my thoughts.  i cherish those moments.

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Ever been disgruntled in your job and thought "if I won the lottery I would turn up nonchalant as fuck and not give a shit"..... this is what this prick is doing to us.  He is winding the fans up.

He has the kip of a chavvy thick prick who has won the lottery... turned up in a holiday resort full of bright self made millionaires.... and knowing deep down inside that he doesn't belong in their company he decided to piss in the pool, drop empty glasses on the floor and generally behave like a twat.

 

He'sa deeply insecure individual with a mega chip on his shoulder.  He resents the fact that we never wanted him in the first place.... He'strying to take us down to his level.

 

SACK HIM NOW! THIS EXCUSE OF A MANAGER IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO OUR FOOTBALL CLUB.  HE KNOWS THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING AND THE VALUE OF FUCK ALL. 

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4 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Ever been disgruntled in your job and thought "if I won the lottery I would turn up nonchalant as fuck and not give a shit"..... this is what this prick is doing to us.  He is winding the fans up.

He has the kip of a chavvy thick prick who has won the lottery... turned up in a holiday resort full of bright self made millionaires.... and knowing deep down inside that he doesn't belong in their company he decided to piss in the pool, drop empty glasses on the floor and generally behave like a twat.

 

He'sa deeply insecure individual with a mega chip on his shoulder.  He resents the fact that we never wanted him in the first place.... He'strying to take us down to his level.

 

SACK HIM NOW! THIS EXCUSE OF A MANAGER IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO OUR FOOTBALL CLUB.  HE KNOWS THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING AND THE VALUE OF FUCK ALL. 

100% this.

Genuinely dislike Everton at present.

Lost its identity. Lost its dignity. Lost its values. Lost its appeal.

As-fucking-if Fonseca will touch us. He'll get blamed for the shitfest his predecessors and Walsh have created.

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Just now in his post match interview, when asked about the fans showing disgruntlment about the Sigi sub, he started doing one of those smart arse smirks with a little 'hummm'...not going to do him many favours.

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I honestly wouldn’t care who we had in as long as he goes! I would even accept O’Neil rather than this twat stay.

He has literally made us worse since he came. Skewed record due to the result he got coming off the confidence of Unsys 4-0 win.... since then the football has been the worst I have witnessed. We are now the butt of all jokes.

gone from the people’s club, to the club that everyone wants to see fail!

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Phil McNulty wrote this week about Moshiri improving the club off the pitch but the jury still being put on it. He's wrong - Moshiri has taken us backwards on the pitch and hiring this utter bastard is the worst of a catalogue of howlers in recruitment. Every day he stays in charge is a massive indictment of Moshiri's lack of understanding of football. Look at what Carvalhal is doing at Swansea, that's recruitment. 

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

Ever been disgruntled in your job and thought "if I won the lottery I would turn up nonchalant as fuck and not give a shit"..... this is what this prick is doing to us.  He is winding the fans up.

He has the kip of a chavvy thick prick who has won the lottery... turned up in a holiday resort full of bright self made millionaires.... and knowing deep down inside that he doesn't belong in their company he decided to piss in the pool, drop empty glasses on the floor and generally behave like a twat.

 

He'sa deeply insecure individual with a mega chip on his shoulder.  He resents the fact that we never wanted him in the first place.... He'strying to take us down to his level.

 

SACK HIM NOW! THIS EXCUSE OF A MANAGER IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO OUR FOOTBALL CLUB.  HE KNOWS THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING AND THE VALUE OF FUCK ALL. 

This is one of your better analogies!

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2 hours ago, Lowensda said:

100% this.

Genuinely dislike Everton at present.

Lost its identity. Lost its dignity. Lost its values. Lost its appeal.

As-fucking-if Fonseca will touch us. He'll get blamed for the shitfest his predecessors and Walsh have created.

Pretty much how I feel tbh 

As bad as it sounds and I'll always back us I've lost interest at the moment which is something I never thought I'd say 

Whilst this bellend is at the helm I feel zero enthusiasm all he will do is drag us down further and the scarier part is the rebuilding once this cunt gets the boot 

The amount of players that need shifting and players that need bringing in to improve us is frightening and that's hoping we can attract a decent manager to attract decent players...... #fucked 

 

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League record of each manager - updated.

Koeman: Played 9, Win 2, Draw 2, Loss 5, For 7, Against 18, Points 8
Average per game: For 0.8, Against 2.0, Points 0.9

Unsworth: Played 5, Win 2, Draw 1, Loss 2, For 10, Against 10, Points 7
Average per game: For 2.0, Against 2.0, Points 1.4

Allardyce: Played 15, Win 5, Draw 4, Loss 6, For 16, Against 21, Points 19
Average per game: For 1.1, Against 1.4, Points 1.3

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3 hours ago, nogs said:

Phil McNulty wrote this week about Moshiri improving the club off the pitch but the jury still being put on it. He's wrong - Moshiri has taken us backwards on the pitch and hiring this utter bastard is the worst of a catalogue of howlers in recruitment. Every day he stays in charge is a massive indictment of Moshiri's lack of understanding of football. Look at what Carvalhal is doing at Swansea, that's recruitment. 

If I was Moshiri I’d feel like Kenwright had Nigerian style scammed me out of all my money.

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4 hours ago, nogs said:

Phil McNulty wrote this week about Moshiri improving the club off the pitch but the jury still being put on it. He's wrong - Moshiri has taken us backwards on the pitch and hiring this utter bastard is the worst of a catalogue of howlers in recruitment. Every day he stays in charge is a massive indictment of Moshiri's lack of understanding of football. Look at what Carvalhal is doing at Swansea, that's recruitment. 

And he's doing it with what he was left with by the outgoing manager, just proves what a manager with a game plan and the ability to get the players to buy into can do.

A good lesson for Moshiri to learn is make sure you've got the right man before you splash the cash, how do you know you've got the right man see if he can noticeably improve the team for a decent spell with the players he's inherited if he can't then he's probably not the right man.

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10 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

I think this was the final nail in the coffin for him, it was proper toxic in there today
Even if we won the last 9 games, with a 10-0 thrashing of The Shite , it wouldn’t be enough to save him

 

I don't want him saving, just out of our club, now !

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10 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

I think this was the final nail in the coffin for him, it was proper toxic in there today
Even if we won the last 9 games, with a 10-0 thrashing of The Shite , it wouldn’t be enough to save him

 

Would it have been audible to allardyce? Was the likes of moshiri there?

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It would be just like Everton for us to actually beat Liverpool next month to creep onto 40 points but our fans to be so disgruntled (and rightfully so) that it feels completely insignificant. I’ve already passed mine and my dad’s tickets on... would never have done that in the past but quite happy to watch it on Sky then get on with my day after!

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14 hours ago, Paddock said:

If I was Moshiri I’d feel like Kenwright had Nigerian style scammed me out of all my money.

Why? Moshiri got rid of who he didn’t like hand picked the people to replace. I completely understand Nogs’ post, if not completely agree.

Feels like Bill entrusted his beloved vintage race car to this young lad who promised to restore it, but instead bought some fancy alloys and a glittery paint job then ragged it around a test track with a supposed top notch mechanic who had no idea what he’s doing. 

I do think Moshiri has set out to improve Everton, I do believe he has good intentions. But he is woefully naieve and his decision making (stadium aside) has been questionable at a stretch

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For the first time ever... I’m not sure I actually want Everton to climb this season.

What if we did actually make Europe next year, would the club see that as a success and let’s Sam continue?  I aren’t angry anymore with how we play.... anyone who knows me knows that, that is seriously wrong.... I love this club and live and breathe it. But I am not angry, just saddened by what I witness on the pitch.

At the start of the season I thought we could turn it around at some point because we were still in games. When Unsworth came in, I felt like he had a match where it looked promising, followed by one that seemed back to Koemans time. But he gave me the feeling that he was using matches to find his way. Then came Thw West Ham win which was followed by another win... and most out it down to Sam. Now it looks like Sams first win was more down to what Unsworth was starting to instill.

Under Sam.... I just can’t see any positive whatsoever! The football is disgustingly bad, the morale is the lowest I have ever witnessed! The look of dejection on the players faces is the biggest indictment of all. I just want it to end.

I hate this.

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I'm with those saying they feel a sense of apathy about it all. After the game yesterday I went out for the night, forgot all about the shit I'd just watched, and had an absolutely amazing night. Everton didn't even enter my thoughts.

Usually, I'd go out and yeah, I'd still have a decent night but Everton would play on my mind and it wouldn't be as good of a night as it could be.

Like Shukes said; I hate this. I want to be bothered that things at our football club are this dire.

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You know one of the really sad things about all of this for me is? People are surprised it's happened. Even being linked with him initially was going to have a negative effect on things, appointing him was suicidal. That's where as much of my apathy has come from as the watching the games (luckily I've been spared the last couple)

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

I'm with those saying they feel a sense of apathy about it all. After the game yesterday I went out for the night, forgot all about the shit I'd just watched, and had an absolutely amazing night. Everton didn't even enter my thoughts.

Usually, I'd go out and yeah, I'd still have a decent night but Everton would play on my mind and it wouldn't be as good of a night as it could be.

Like Shukes said; I hate this. I want to be bothered that things at our football club are this dire.

I've read about fans of 50 years suddenly not giving a shit......  that's awful. But understandable too. 

I think the fans are at revolt level. 

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After a first-half when we had more shots on target than in the previous half-dozen games, you don't have to be a mind reader to work out Allardyce's half-time team talk.

'Right lads,  we are 1 - 0 up so, second-half, we don't concede, right.  Close down,  tackle everything that moves, we don't concede, right.  If we do concede then keep tight,  keep working, keep tackling.   We leave here with a point right.  If we concede a second, keep tight, keep tackling, keep the score  down to 2 -1.' 

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14 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Some of the things I'm currently hearing from our fans is actually tough to read and hear.

It's like the club has been infiltrated by leeches.... the old guard like osman hibbert and date I say Phil Neville would have lost their shit......

I was excited when shedding them in order to get the elite level players in. How wrong was I? 

 

Bit by bit people employed by the club have taken pop shots at the clubs status. koeman, lukaku, and now allardyce.  Questioned our standing in the game whilst picking up mega wages.... Totally destabilising. 

It needs sorting out big time.  What are the true blues like rooney, big dunc, Baines etc doing??? They should be smashing floors down. Start off by saying to Ashley Williams.... "ok hard man.... let's have it now. Wanna fight all the time do you? Tit"

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A sad era for our beloved club indeed. It should never had come to this.

But the incompetence of the decisionmakers are the ones to be blamed and they should have made a plan already last season where I saw these issues with the manager (Koeman) and certain players. Sadly many thought we had a great run last season. I would say it was lacking a lot though somewhat acceptable and plenty of room for improvement which we never got.

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We can't change what has happened in the last 2 seasons and hindsight is a wonderful thing, and the board are the only ones who can change what happens today and tomorrow, but what we can do is protest at the way our club is being run we have a voice let's make sure it's heard.

Reading through these posts the despair is crippling, to hear people say that they feel they can't be bothered or in someway they are becoming immunized to us losing is hard to hear.

Can anybody find the email addresses of Moshiri,Kenwright,Walsh and Allardyce so we can constantly send them our messages of discontent.

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Would it have been audible to allardyce? Was the likes of moshiri there?

No idea whether or not Moshiri or Kenwright were there but there could be absolutely no way that anyone in the ground could have been in any doubt whatsoever what we thought of his substitutions or the overall ineptitude of his or the teams second half performance

Burnley and Everton fans joining in the sacked in the morning chants will also have helped




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21 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Can anybody find the email addresses of Moshiri,Kenwright,Walsh and Allardyce so we can constantly send them our messages of discontent.

I know where Shakespeare lives so could put together a hamper to pass on!

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So now we're 11th seven points off the relegation zone, when Sam took over we were 13th five points off the zone. If it hadn't been for a decent December (before he'd managed to get his style bedded in?) we'd be on our way down, no question.

I'm still extremely worried that we will go down, 34 points ain't going to keep us up and I can't see where the next one's coming from. Desperate times, me and Josh turned the game off after they equalised yesterday because we knew what was coming. Old enough to have been through some very tough patches in the past but this is the worst I've felt; how in the fuck has the huge optimism of last summer come to this? It makes no sense.

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I think the home form is just about good enough for a couple of wins and a draw Mike. 

I want him gone, as soon as possible, but I want a replacement lined up first. 

None of this crap like we had last time, weeks and weeks without a manager and a caretaker in charge. 

Unsworth isn’t the answer, he’s not good enough. To even consider him based on having similar stats to Sam is crazy. We need better than that, now I don’t know who that is, but it’s not my job to. 

I’d much rather see Sam stay for another month, and in that time see a new experienced CEO put in place, or Denise given the role and a chance to be a part of moving the club forward. Then replace the people underneath, not too arsed about Walsh as I still don’t know what his role consists of so I can’t judge him on it. 

We need a new manager, it needs to be a long term replacement and he needs to have a plan. No more wasting money on random players and see what happens. We need a long term plan with a short term strategy to improve the first team. 

We have the core of what could be a good team, maybe four key additions would be enough to improve us without the massive change we had in the summer and keep some stability. 

Change needs to happen, but it needs to be planned, not knee jerk. 

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

I think the home form is just about good enough for a couple of wins and a draw Mike. 

I want him gone, as soon as possible, but I want a replacement lined up first. 

None of this crap like we had last time, weeks and weeks without a manager and a caretaker in charge. 

Unsworth isn’t the answer, he’s not good enough. To even consider him based on having similar stats to Sam is crazy. We need better than that, now I don’t know who that is, but it’s not my job to. 

I’d much rather see Sam stay for another month, and in that time see a new experienced CEO put in place, or Denise given the role and a chance to be a part of moving the club forward. Then replace the people underneath, not too arsed about Walsh as I still don’t know what his role consists of so I can’t judge him on it. 

We need a new manager, it needs to be a long term replacement and he needs to have a plan. No more wasting money on random players and see what happens. We need a long term plan with a short term strategy to improve the first team. 

We have the core of what could be a good team, maybe four key additions would be enough to improve us without the massive change we had in the summer and keep some stability. 

Change needs to happen, but it needs to be planned, not knee jerk. 

Agree with most of this, but I'd rather have Unsworth back in charge while plans for next season are done properly than have another minute under Allardyce.

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Moshiri has to know the contempt the fans have for Allardyce if this means by signing a petition so be it.

If he doesn't take notice then he needs to be careful that contempt won't belong in heading his way.

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3 hours ago, nogs said:

Agree with most of this, but I'd rather have Unsworth back in charge while plans for next season are done properly than have another minute under Allardyce.

Right now, Unsworth’s record is the best of the three. More importantly, he was clearly beginning to make a difference. There was belief in the team. We’ll never know how well he would have done if he’d not had an air of uncertainty hanging over his head. I say give him the remaining games to see how he does. No top manager would look twice at us right now, so let’s be realistic. 

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5 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

We’re up to 28. Let’s share with friends and build some momentum. If we reach 1,000, I shall forward the link to media outlets so they can read the comments. 

You need to get it onto Twitter somehow - a couple of retweets and it could be seen by tens of thousands.

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3 minutes ago, c1982 said:

You need to get it onto Twitter somehow - a couple of retweets and it could be seen by tens of thousands.

I don’t have a twitter account. Can others post the link there? In the meantime, I shall create an account and post it there too. 

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9 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Some of the things I'm currently hearing from our fans is actually tough to read and hear.

This is the saddest thing. I have never seen Everton fans so apathetic. 

When things went tits up under Martinez at least people were angry. 

Koeman/Walsh/Allardyce have ripped the soul out of this club and it has all started since we became able to pay like the big boys. Mercenary managers with no real philosophy, signing mercenary players who don't give a shit. 

I would happily go back to not having a pot to piss in as long as the soul of this club remained (and we didn' go under!). 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bailey said:

This is the saddest thing. I have never seen Everton fans so apathetic. 

When things went tits up under Martinez at least people were angry. 

Koeman/Walsh/Allardyce have ripped the soul out of this club and it has all started since we became able to pay like the big boys. Mercenary managers with no real philosophy, signing mercenary players who don't give a shit. 

I would happily go back to not having a pot to piss in as long as the soul of this club remained (and we didn' go under!). 

 

Well they do say money doesn't make you happy, and by fuck we have proved it Moshiri has money that is clear but when it comes to spending it in the football world he's clueless.

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6 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Well they do say money doesn't make you happy, and by fuck we have proved it Moshiri has money that is clear but when it comes to spending it in the football world he's clueless.

It's as if we completely forgot what got us to where we were when we got some money. 

 

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