MikeO Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Palfy said: That could be damning for us if it was fact that he is our best player, it would condemn us to a bleak future, fortunately he isn’t and when he and few others get moved out we can look to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, MikeO said: Do you think so, see I really don't think he's good enough to be in a team that want to get to the top echelons of the premiere league, he may look adequate in 4-5 games a season in this current poor team but he's not for the future so let's get rid of the players that can't take us further, or stay in state of mediocrity for the foreseeable future. And before you suggest it that wasn't a party political broadcast on behalf of the conservative party😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 The damning stats that underline Allardyce's Everton struggles http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/damning-statistics-underline-sam-allardyces-14335390#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Time for Moshiri to sharpen the axe and give him the chop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 45 minutes ago, Palfy said: Do you think so, see I really don't think he's good enough to be in a team that want to get to the top echelons of the premiere league, he may look adequate in 4-5 games a season in this current poor team but he's not for the future so let's get rid of the players that can't take us further, or stay in state of mediocrity for the foreseeable future. And before you suggest it that wasn't a party political broadcast on behalf of the conservative party😁 You are saying he is a player who you don't think can get us to the top level of the premier league... that may well be the case but when we have players who are more than capable of taking us down the league then I think there are bigger issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Is there any vehicle for the fans to seriously voice their displeasure to moshiri and co? Walsh can get gone too - Sam is his boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 46 minutes ago, hafnia said: Is there any vehicle for the fans to seriously voice their displeasure to moshiri and co? Walsh can get gone too - Sam is his boy. No. They won't want to hear criticism and to the current regime I don't get the feeling that we fans matter. So much for The People's Club. Sad times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 15 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: What if the man they want is still employed a another club, especially if his current club are still involved in the Champions League (Fonseca) ? 16 hours ago, c1982 said: If Silva’s our man - that’s great, get rid of Sam and build now but I’ve got a feeling that we really want Fonseca and will have to wait until the summer to make it happen. We need Roma to overturn Shakhtar’s lead after the first leg though as, carry on like they are, and Fonseca will have much better offers than here available to him come the summer. Absolutely respect and agree with these points - I guess it’s sheer frustration. As long as we have a clear plan to alter the route we are on, because it’s just dire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Honestly I think Silva is the best we can get. Fonseca might be out of our league now with the shit we are in. Better offers from CL or Europa teams I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Honestly I think Silva is the best we can get. Fonseca might be out of our league now with the shit we are in. Better offers from CL or Europa teams I think.He has regularly stated his desire to manage in the Premier League Of the top 6 there is only maybe Conte and Wenger whose jobs are under threat and I don’t see either of those clubs going for FonsecaI would be fairly confident of getting him if we made an approach. Quinn31 and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11269245/evertons-away-form-is-a-major-problem-for-sam-allardyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I desperately dislike this manager. He's horrible.... absolutely awful. Matt, markjazzbassist, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 What amazes me about this dick head is the regularity in which he assigns no blame to himself. Every management book ever will say protect your team when they do badly and when you do well then credit the team rather than yourself Matt, markjazzbassist and nutmegwolf203 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Need to fuck the players off, four managers haven't been able to get the best out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 52 minutes ago, Lowensda said: I live in hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I can’t see there being any truth in that at all, he failed miserably as caretaker manager so why would we suddenly give him the job full time now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 i don't see the truth in unsy getting the job as i don't see him being a moshiri man. but i would welcome the sam sacking bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 hours ago, jofanon said: What amazes me about this dick head is the regularity in which he assigns no blame to himself. Every management book ever will say protect your team when they do badly and when you do well then credit the team rather than yourself Right, he has no diplomacy. That much is in his control. He doesn't care about the club at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I think he knows he has been found out and can’t be arsed with the hassle. He is used to the plaudits and revels in the pay offs with shitty teams but I think building a team is past him now and he wants the easy pay offs. These next ten games are going to be close on unwatchable. Like the man says this season is a write off. Get rid before the last couple of games and get Fonseca in. I’m hoping that was the original plan all along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Finn balor said: I think he knows he has been found out and can’t be arsed with the hassle. He is used to the plaudits and revels in the pay offs with shitty teams but I think building a team is past him now and he wants the easy pay offs. These next ten games are going to be close on unwatchable. Like the man says this season is a write off. Get rid before the last couple of games and get Fonseca in. I’m hoping that was the original plan all along Anyone who thinks the seasons a write off needs there head screwing back on.... the last 10 games we need to get Cenk settled, see if Klaassen can adapt to the league, get Coleman back fit, work out what CB’s to keep for next year. MikeO and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/27/everton-owner-farhad-moshiri-reaches-crossroads-decision-time/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 The answer is a resounding "YES!" http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/27/pj-west-brom-moving-for-sam-allardyce-could-suit-all-parties/page/1/ Newty82, Matt and plaidharper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 steve that would be best for both of us. they get him to shore them up and hope they stay up, we get a real manager either silva, unsworth for the rest of the campaign or we dream for fonseca. got me excited steve, which hasn't happened with everton for a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palfy Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Thank fuck for that if it's true, but I can't help feeling the type of manager they are talking about and looking for is the first won he sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 I reckon we'll be approaching Arteta (as well as others). Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Please please please be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 9 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: steve that would be best for both of us. they get him to shore them up and hope they stay up, we get a real manager either silva, unsworth for the rest of the campaign or we dream for fonseca. got me excited steve, which hasn't happened with everton for a few months. If he blames the players each week for his own ineptitude, can you imagine the things of which he'll accuse Everton when he's fired? All the blame will be ours, and he'll be the innocent victim. This won't be pretty, but it's necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Can't wait to see the back of him. I've never been more disappointed by Everton, since I've started following them. He has to go. Shukes, Lowensda, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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