chalkpie Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Fatt Slobb needs to GO!! Why do we only get shite managers? WTF is wrong with this club? Is it cursed or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 What pissed me off with his post match interview was the excuses, he openly said he copied the Swansea set up and tactics and then blamed the players for not executing them properly, for openly saying that he should be sacked, we are not Swansea there manager is far superior than him and he's paid 6M a year to come up with his own tactics based on the players at this club not mimic others, fuck me we can all do that look at a replay of a team that won last week then tell the players that's what you've got to do, simple this management lark just play like Man City. Moshiri put the cheque in the post please. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Whatever credit he gets for keeping Sunderland and palace up is completely undone by the state of the club when he leaves. Both total shambles. Hodgson trying to save palace, Sunderland couldn’t find a solution. Instilling a belief that 40 pts is good enough is despicable. Get out now before our next manager can’t fix this mess. It would take Jesus reincarnated at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 The players we have bought is the main issue. We have bought shite. Pickford definitely has improved us. Gilfi maybe and early doors Theo. Sam is another Moyes try and stifle the better teams and don’t go for the win. I’ll give him till the end of the season. There’s is a lot of winnable games coming up. If he carries on setting the team in the crack handed manner he can go before the end of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 We have a big problem to be honestm if we get rid of Sam now after just signing him up makes us look like a sacking club and who could we get of quality to replace him with in that case, besides I am not sure we could survive a debacle like the last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Canadian Bluenose Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2018-02-03 at 11:03, Aidan Lewis said: Out. Tomorrow. Get the fuck out of this club. I have many things to say about this set up, these tactics. I'm not going to waste my breath and I'm not going to renew my season ticket until this fucking fraud is out of my club. In fact - I'm not going to go to goodison park until he's gone. Runing my club Right Aidan - he’s saved us from relegation using his shitty tactics. It was looking far worse before he got here. Call a spade a spade and thank the man for doing what he was brought in for. Expecting anything else is just fool hearty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Canadian Bluenose Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 14 hours ago, Finn balor said: The players we have bought is the main issue. We have bought shite. Pickford definitely has improved us. Gilfi maybe and early doors Theo. Sam is another Moyes try and stifle the better teams and don’t go for the win. I’ll give him till the end of the season. There’s is a lot of winnable games coming up. If he carries on setting the team in the crack handed manner he can go before the end of the season I think your misunderstanding what the mans job is. It’s to save Everton from relegation this year. He won’t be around next year. His contract is more of a reward than a guaranteed tenure. We’ll have a new manager shortly after reaching 40 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Canadian Bluenose Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 10 hours ago, rubecula said: We have a big problem to be honestm if we get rid of Sam now after just signing him up makes us look like a sacking club and who could we get of quality to replace him with in that case, besides I am not sure we could survive a debacle like the last time. Sam was always a stop gap. Apart from Dyche we need to go for a top foreign Manager who can instill a ball possession type of mentality to Everton. I believe we do have the players for this but the squad is as fragile mentally as I’ve seen them in the last 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 The more I think about his comments after the Arsenal game the angrier I get How can he complain about consistency when he doesn't pick a consistent side? Or a consistent formation? What fucking idiot decides to change from a back 4 to a back 3, which is a formation we just don't look comfortable playing? Not only that but away at fucking Arsenal! Furthermore, who then decides that as part of that 3 we should play a CB that has only been at the club a matter of days?! Never mind that even the established players would have found this a tough ask because we had limited time to work on it having played on the Wednesday. Then you find out that the reason he did it was because Swansea fucking City did it and got the win. Does someone want to inform the stupid cunt that Swansea have different players than us? Because you can't just copy a tactic that worked for one team and just expect it to work for your team. We do not have the players for the formation. He talks about himself being a good tactical manager... Fuck. That. Shit. He's a clueless shitehawk. He also spoke about getting to the 40 points mark as quick as possible so that he can try things in preparation for next season... If this horrible bastard is allowed anywhere near us throughout the summer and into next season then we are royally fucked, and Moshiri needs to take a chair to his own face. It doesn't bear thinking about the (further) damage that will be caused by keeping him on for longer. Wiggytop, nyblue23, rubecula and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Jeff the Canadian Bluenose said: Sam was always a stop gap. Apart from Dyche we need to go for a top foreign Manager who can instill a ball possession type of mentality to Everton. I believe we do have the players for this but the squad is as fragile mentally as I’ve seen them in the last 10 years. no idea who would want to come here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bill Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Jeff the Canadian Bluenose said: Right Aidan - he’s saved us from relegation using his shitty tactics. It was looking far worse before he got here. Call a spade a spade and thank the man for doing what he was brought in for. Expecting anything else is just fool hearty... Don't be silly I could have saved them from relegation, what he has done is ruin efc as a footballing club, any other manager would have them in 6th place. He should be removed ASAP and all those customers who have paid good money to watch that rubbish should be refunded and apologized to. Matt, rubecula, Shukes and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Jeff the Canadian Bluenose said: Right Aidan - he’s saved us from relegation using his shitty tactics. It was looking far worse before he got here. Call a spade a spade and thank the man for doing what he was brought in for. Expecting anything else is just fool hearty... Has he? I'd argue he's made it more of a possibility than it was because of his shitty tactics. There is absolutely nothing that excuse of a manager deserves any thanks for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 As i said before we have had 3 managers this season and non of them could get a tune out of this lot, bad buys piss poor scouting, and something fundamentally wrong in our DNA since the big money take over, Sam was brought in to save us from relegation, but he has spent between 50 and 60 mil and we look worse. The more we spend the worse we get and no one at the top seems to be taking control. Get the man you want to manage them now we who the board want, and let him work out what he wants for the summer do not wait till the summer to act. Stop throwing money away on short term projects and plan for the future. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Until this morning I had read only the OS text version of Allardyce’s postmatch comments, which, significantly, left out his outrageous statement about “writing this season off as quick as we can.” Admittedly, he did phrase it weirdly, by adding “by staying in the Premier League.” I have no idea how the players will react to his refusal to accept any part of the blame. Surely they will not have missed his self-exculpatory reference to the irrelevance of formations and systems. We have a confident prediction in a new thread that we’ll reach 40 points in our next 5 matches. In a normal season, such a prediction would be reasonable, as we’d normally think we should take 6 points at home to Palace and Brighton, and “should” win one of the upcoming away matches. But Allardyce’s half-truth analysis of what went wrong against Arsenal seems more likely this week to deepen the gloom around every aspect of the club. We’re in a vey bad place. Anyone reading Allardyce’s comment is going to focus more on “write off” than on “staying in.” Most will be offended by “write off,” and will not be entirely mollified by the addition of “staying in.” They will think “staying in” is a cynical attempt to balance “write off.” As I posted yesterday in the relegation thread, we’re in danger of a disastrous downhill momentum moment. Allardyce’s write off blunder increases the danger and adds to that momentum. Lose to Palace and the momentum gathers speed, write off looks like the plan, staying in becomes a dogfight. I hope he doesn’t write off Palace, and the season, by playing 7-2-1 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 No one can tell me that a side containing Rooney, Pickford, Sig, Tosun, Bolaise, Walcott, Davies, Coleman is a fundamentally bad one. Yes its lop sided and yes there are flaws but something is happening behind the scenes at Everton that is causing chaos. Allardyce is an idiot but he's the 3rd manager we've had this season - there must be something more going on. Reminds me of when Eto was here. Results improved after he left. I wonder if there are one or two bad eggs (could even be coaching staff)? It could be Moshiri! Sev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I agree. You see those players and wonder how we can be doing so badly. I honestly think we should get rid of Scniederlin. I don’t see what he offers at all. I o to see that when he played, we look boring and an easy touch. Remember the rumours about him and Mirralas. Well his friend has been shipped out... let that sink in. wasnt to funny that our intensity with Davies and Gana side by side was completely different. Having players who are prepared to roll their socks up runs off on the other players. Having Coleman back will be a major plus. Just his enthusiasm will do a lot to the players around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 all the sam backers just now realized how detrimental to clubs he really is. leaving a wake of destroyed confidence, young players, and results behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: all the sam backers just now realized how detrimental to clubs he really is. leaving a wake of destroyed confidence, young players, and results behind him. It's truly baffling that anyone expected anything but that, in my opinion. markjazzbassist, Sev and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 56 minutes ago, jofanon said: No one can tell me that a side containing Rooney, Pickford, Sig, Tosun, Bolaise, Walcott, Davies, Coleman is a fundamentally bad one. Yes its lop sided and yes there are flaws but something is happening behind the scenes at Everton that is causing chaos. Allardyce is an idiot but he's the 3rd manager we've had this season - there must be something more going on. Reminds me of when Eto was here. Results improved after he left. I wonder if there are one or two bad eggs (could even be coaching staff)? It could be Moshiri! Just after the match the other day a good friend of mine that works in production at NBC here in the states just causally mentioned our 'troubled locker room' as if I could expand upon it. It wasn't a surprise but I obviously don't have any details. He's a neutral that just loves football, and sound engineering! But his supplemental evidence was what he heard an analyst saying off camera (could be anything and anyone, I know) but also Martinez on set not too long ago also saying things to that effect. So that's not a clear explanation for anything, but it was information from someone who isn'tt really all that invested in Everton and thought he was spouting common knowledge to someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Shukes said: I agree. You see those players and wonder how we can be doing so badly. I honestly think we should get rid of Scniederlin. I don’t see what he offers at all. I o to see that when he played, we look boring and an easy touch. Remember the rumours about him and Mirralas. Well his friend has been shipped out... let that sink in. wasnt to funny that our intensity with Davies and Gana side by side was completely different. Having players who are prepared to roll their socks up runs off on the other players. Having Coleman back will be a major plus. Just his enthusiasm will do a lot to the players around him. It's great to have players who put effort in and run for the team but they have to do it with purpose and structure, not like a headless chicken which Gana is constantly guilty of, he's a complete negative in the team constantly Jay walking, missed timed tackles in areas which hurt us, can't read the game pretty poor really. Now Davies is a everything he isn'tt he knows when to go when to stay doesn't allow players to ghost past him, and leads by example at a young age which I find inspiring. MikeO, nyblue23 and pete0 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Can’t agree there. I thought he had a very good game against Leicester. Him and Davies were looking after each other’s performances. They both spent a lot of time in their half as well. Gana suffers from ball chasing at times, but he is an important player for us and keeps that engine room ticking over. The problem is more when he has the wrong partner with him. nyblue23, MikeO and chicagoblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, jofanon said: No one can tell me that a side containing Rooney, Pickford, Sig, Tosun, Bolaise, Walcott, Davies, Coleman is a fundamentally bad one. Yes its lop sided and yes there are flaws but something is happening behind the scenes at Everton that is causing chaos. Allardyce is an idiot but he's the 3rd manager we've had this season - there must be something more going on. Reminds me of when Eto was here. Results improved after he left. I wonder if there are one or two bad eggs (could even be coaching staff)? It could be Moshiri! Its Walsh, what makes me so suspicious of him is that after the Koeman sacking and Unsy spoke to the first team squad, Walsh spoke to them alone without Unsy. Why would he do that. In my opinion he is the power behind the thrown, undermining managers or at least sewing confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Canadian Bluenose Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Matt said: Has he? I'd argue he's made it more of a possibility than it was because of his shitty tactics. There is absolutely nothing that excuse of a manager deserves any thanks for. We are watching two different seasons son. Look at the table and be honest with yourself. Sams got to go but in the end job done in his eyes. 3 minutes ago, London Blue said: Its Walsh, what makes me so suspicious of him is that after the Koeman sacking and Unsy spoke to the first team squad, Walsh spoke to them alone without Unsy. Why would he do that. In my opinion he is the power behind the thrown, undermining managers or at least sewing confusion. Agreed- common denominator in all this is Walsh. He has got to go yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jeff the Canadian Bluenose said: We are watching two different seasons son. Look at the table and be honest with yourself. Sams got to go but in the end job done in his eyes. Agreed- common denominator in all this is Walsh. He has got to go yesterday. Couldn't care less about what he sees. As for the table, I'm a lot more nervous now than I was before he took over. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I thought we were more capable of picking up points before he got here. We could score goals. Ok we had a bad run, but we seemed to be starting to perform better. Since he has been here we have been terrible other than one result. We need to turn this around right now or we will be dragged into a relegation scrap. Sam has had a negative effect on the team. I can’t see anything positive so far at all, absolutely nothing. I feel depressed watching us! markjazzbassist, Matt and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Shukes said: I thought we were more capable of picking up points before he got here. We could score goals. Ok we had a bad run, but we seemed to be starting to perform better. Since he has been here we have been terrible other than one result. We need to turn this around right now or we will be dragged into a relegation scrap. Sam has had a negative effect on the team. I can’t see anything positive so far at all, absolutely nothing. I feel depressed watching us! It looks like the players are depressed playing for Allardyce. Shukes and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, London Blue said: It looks like the players are depressed playing for Allardyce. Who could blame them? markjazzbassist and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Matt said: Who could blame them? Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, London Blue said: Indeed. It was the absolute worst, amateur decision to appoint him. We were in a really bad run, but we so often have been before Christmas. With Moyes, we never really got doing until the new year, but we always got things together. The premature panic appointment of the "relegation specialist" was a huge fuck you to the team and the fans, made by someone who's been handed a blank cheque-book by a well-intentioned, but incredibly naive and inexperienced, majority shareholder. It was a massive kick to the stomach of a fan base and squad that was up on the ropes after the Koeman disaster; it's put us in danger. MikeO, markjazzbassist and London Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Matt said: It was the absolute worst, amateur decision to appoint him. We were in a really bad run, but we so often have been before Christmas. With Moyes, we never really got doing until the new year, but we always got things together. The premature panic appointment of the "relegation specialist" was a huge fuck you to the team and the fans, made by someone who's been handed a blank cheque-book by a well-intentioned, but incredibly naive and inexperienced, majority shareholder. It was a massive kick to the stomach of a fan base and squad that was up on the ropes after the Koeman disaster; it's put us in danger. Appoint at haste, repent at leasure. They panicked and got bounced into it by a team in trouble, and elements of the press who wanted Allardyce to get the job, apparently for no other reason than to see if they could do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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