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2 hours ago, Bailey said:

A decent keeper saves it IMO. 

It's a great finish as from that angle it's the smart option.  Keeper will save easy to the near post as his left leg is covering that.  The far post is a dive of his right foot.... the middle of his legs is a difficult cover. 

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3 hours ago, Bailey said:

A decent keeper saves it IMO. 

Oh shut the fuck up will ya. If's but's and maybe's... Fact is, it was a half decent keeper and he got mugged. End of subject.... Good goal, good run, good control, good composure..... If Richarlson would be scored that right now, everybody would be creaming in their pants.

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I really like Cenk, he gets us as a club, he clearly loves playing here and he always gives 100%.

I was not sure if his lack of form was due to confidence or ability. Having seen his goal I am convinced it is just the former.

If he can get a run of games and start scoring regularly he will be a very good target man for us.

Great goal and as Romey said he had so long he could easily over thought it, but he showed his class and scored the goal that made the game safe.

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Still haven't seen it yet but sounds like I'm missing a well taken goal hopefully get to see it tonight your morning, this time difference is starting to get too me now can't really understand why these Aussies would want to be older than us.

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Personally I think he’s quality but I can see how he could  divide opinion

hes never going to create goals for himself like a Bernard or Richarlison.

He is a finisher and needs the right service to thrive.  Without the service he looks very ordinary but imo he knows where Tim he onion bag is

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13 hours ago, Bailey said:

A decent keeper saves it IMO. 

That will be the same keeper that saved Walcotts  effort a few minutes earlier from similar position then, so poor finish or good keeper?

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17 hours ago, hafnia said:

It's a great finish as from that angle it's the smart option.  Keeper will save easy to the near post as his left leg is covering that.  The far post is a dive of his right foot.... the middle of his legs is a difficult cover. 

 

17 hours ago, yamar said:

Oh shut the fuck up will ya. If's but's and maybe's... Fact is, it was a half decent keeper and he got mugged. End of subject.... Good goal, good run, good control, good composure..... If Richarlson would be scored that right now, everybody would be creaming in their pants.

Any time a keeper is beaten between his legs and at any level he will be seething. 

6 hours ago, Wiggytop said:

That will be the same keeper that saved Walcotts  effort a few minutes earlier from similar position then, so poor finish or good keeper?

Walcotts shot was crap to! Both right down the middle and will be saved more often than not.  

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41 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Walcotts shot was crap to! Both right down the middle and will be saved more often than not.  

You're forgetting the golden rule on here, if you get away with it out doesn't matter... Not gone through the thread but are any of the Walcott bashers singing Tosun's praises? 

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17 minutes ago, pete0 said:

You're forgetting the golden rule on here, if you get away with it out doesn't matter... Not gone through the thread but are any of the Walcott bashers singing Tosun's praises? 

difference being Cenk works for the team, walcott works for himself.  everyone wants Cenk to come good, everyone wants walcott to figure out its a team game.  completely different issues.

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5 hours ago, Paddock said:

I honestly don’t get this hate for Walcott, I really don’t.

I don’t get the hate, but he was poor Sunday and I get the criticism. There’s a very talented player in there who shows himself with some consistency, but not enough consistency to avoid being a bit frustrating.

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17 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

difference being Cenk works for the team, walcott works for himself.  everyone wants Cenk to come good, everyone wants walcott to figure out its a team game.  completely different issues.

Rubbish, you say Walcott works for himself based on what evidence ?

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1 hour ago, London Blue said:

Rubbish, you say Walcott works for himself based on what evidence ?

I have repeatedly stated he has 2-3 moments each game where a simple layoff results in a goal and he always goes it alone.  It’s frustrating

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6 hours ago, nyblue23 said:

I don’t get the hate, but he was poor Sunday and I get the criticism. There’s a very talented player in there who shows himself with some consistency, but not enough consistency to avoid being a bit frustrating.

He didn’t have his best game admittedly, he was largely anonymous but he still had a chance- granted he missed it but he usually gets into at least one goalscoring position a game, his pace and running offer us an outlet and you get 100% out of him.  

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14 minutes ago, Paddock said:

He didn’t have his best game admittedly, he was largely anonymous but he still had a chance- granted he missed it but he usually gets into at least one goalscoring position a game, his pace and running offer us an outlet and you get 100% out of him.  

He also started the attack in our half when surrounded by three players, battled two off the ball and managed to pass the ball forward past the other one closing him down, think it was Sigurdssen ended up on the end of the play and the keeper saved it near post. 

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24 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

I could’ve sworn he was in the starting line-up last night but I don’t remember seeing him playing, so I must’ve been mistaken. 

I think the only time the ball got near him he brought a great save out of the keeper. Otherwise he was just closing down and creating space rather than being on the ball. 

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20 minutes ago, Matt said:

I think the only time the ball got near him he brought a great save out of the keeper. Otherwise he was just closing down and creating space rather than being on the ball. 

he did have a couple nice times with his back to goal and he was entering the box and laid it off for gylfi/richie etc to continue the attack.  something we really miss with richie up top

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47 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

I could’ve sworn he was in the starting line-up last night but I don’t remember seeing him playing, so I must’ve been mistaken. 

You weren't mistaken, I definitely saw him jog off the pitch when he was subbed.

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

I think the only time the ball got near him he brought a great save out of the keeper. Otherwise he was just closing down and creating space rather than being on the ball. 

Matt, I understand you always look for the good in everything but he was shite. He looked massively disinterested in doing anything at all. DCL got more involved in the game than he did.

This was his opportunity and he blew it.

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I just don't think he fits Marco's system unfortunately. It seems like Marco wants a high energy & pacey forward. Cenk is hard-working, but I wouldn't call him high energy, and he's definitely not the fastest. I feel for him because he seems like a genuine good guy.

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His career at Everton turned out to be a big disappointment, isn'tt it?

He is the one to blame. Fat Sam was interested bla bla, ok but he picked Everton, he knew what he is going to face but did nothing to improve in the game. So, it is not Everton's fault. I was very optimistic at the beginning of this season but it is not going to happen.

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2 minutes ago, Sir McGiven said:

His career at Everton turned out to be a big disappointment, isn'ttt it?

He is the one to blame. Fat Sam was interested bla bla, ok but he picked Everton, he knew what he is going to face but did nothing to improve in the game. So, it is not Everton's fault. I was very optimistic at the beginning of this season but it is not going to happen.

Very sadly agree.

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5 minutes ago, Sir McGiven said:

His career at Everton turned out to be a big disappointment, isn'ttt it?

He is the one to blame. Fat Sam was interested bla bla, ok but he picked Everton, he knew what he is going to face but did nothing to improve in the game. So, it is not Everton's fault. I was very optimistic at the beginning of this season but it is not going to happen.

Why do you think it’s turned out the way it has for him, he started off with so much promise scored some well taken goals.

 I still think he should be playing up front in place of Richarlison who is better on the left, where that leaves Bernard I don’t know but that’s not the issue we need to play the best players suited for the positions they excell in, so at this moment in time he’s still got a future here imo. 

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3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

I could’ve sworn he was in the starting line-up last night but I don’t remember seeing him playing, so I must’ve been mistaken. 

 

3 hours ago, Matt said:

I think the only time the ball got near him he brought a great save out of the keeper. Otherwise he was just closing down and creating space rather than being on the ball. 

Thought these comments were on about Gylfi when I first read them. 

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

Matt, I understand you always look for the good in everything but he was shite. He looked massively disinterested in doing anything at all. DCL got more involved in the game than he did.

This was his opportunity and he blew it.

I’m not saying i didn’t expect more but he wasn’t the worst player in my opinion 

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19 hours ago, Palfy said:

Why do you think it’s turned out the way it has for him, he started off with so much promise scored some well taken goals.

 I still think he should be playing up front in place of Richarlison who is better on the left, where that leaves Bernard I don’t know but that’s not the issue we need to play the best players suited for the positions they excell in, so at this moment in time he’s still got a future here imo. 

The reason is beside the obvious facts (like he is slow as a striker for EPL) he is not good at hold-up play, link-up play etc. at Everton, those were what he used to do perfectly at Besiktas. What makes him special is his finishing ability so far but that alone is not enough.

I mean DCL is a promising striker and maybe will be better than Cenk in the future but I don't think he is currently and as far as I see he is the 2nd choice striker. Well, if Cenk dropped to 3rd choice, it is not good for him. Plus, because of the current situation I think his morale is pretty low and he looks like he has lost his self-confidence already.

Can he still be a good asset for the team? I am sure he can but eventually being a 3rd choice problem will drive him to the point where he needs to make a decision.

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1 hour ago, Sir McGiven said:

The reason is beside the obvious facts (like he is slow as a striker for EPL) he is not good at hold-up play, link-up play etc. at Everton, those were what he used to do perfectly at Besiktas. What makes him special is his finishing ability so far but that alone is not enough.

I mean DCL is a promising striker and maybe will be better than Cenk in the future but I don't think he is currently and as far as I see he is the 2nd choice striker. Well, if Cenk dropped to 3rd choice, it is not good for him. Plus, because of the current situation I think his morale is pretty low and he looks like he has lost his self-confidence already.

Can he still be a good asset for the team? I am sure he can but eventually being a 3rd choice problem will drive him to the point where he needs to make a decision.

He is slow granted I think he is good at linking up play I remember last season he was linking up well with Gylfi. 

Im not going to read to much into the last game there were a few who didn’t play to their ability and he didn’t have much to feed off either, he needs another two or three games before we give up on him, and playing Richarlison as CF isn’t doing us any favours. 

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